Triumph
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Frank makes a good point. Get all the prices talk to the Houston supplier, Frank & Terry at Sturdy and know what your options are.
I would also appreciate the photos or the links..I am pretty interested.
Let me improve that for you:Then again, I'm not here to sell safes. =)
Let me improve that for you:
Then again, I'm not here to sell safes. =)
a1abdj said:What's that square hole over the tear?
A fire axe isn't like your normal lumberjack axe or campfire hatchet used to chop wood. It has a pick opposite its cutting edge for penetration:
Using one to cut metal involves punching holes with the pick and then connecting the "dots" with the blade. The sturdy safe evidently resisted puncture by the pick
A safe dealer here in town use to do the gun show circuits with his safes and would put on a demonstration with a fire ax.
This is how he told me..."After a few swings on 12 gauge steel he would put a hole in it.
10 gauge steel a gash would appear.
3/16 Steel he would put a dent into it.
1/4....Forget about it."
True this was not the hardned spike of a fire ax but still I am here to say that chopping your way into your Sturdy or my BF is not going to be fun and it's not likely to yield fast results.
Better bring power tools unless you want to wear your a$$ right out.
IS THERE A WAREHOUSE WHERE I CAN GO DIRECTLY TO
I'V SEEN DEAN SAFE HAS IT FOR $1699.00 AND $632 FOR SHIPPING
1abdj,was that Liberty Presidential you were talking about the same one Liberty is showing on their website??
I ask this because looking at it I certainly thought it did look as if were just about opened up.
a1abdj said:The photo above just looks a little odd. Perhaps another video is in order
Sturdy apparently indicated a willingness to make such a video but I don't know whether anything ever came of that. To be honest, I think it would just be a waste.
1abdj,if you look at Libertys website and click on their security feeatures you can look at their monster mech locking system and they have a picture of a guys Presidential that was worked on for what they say was 5 hours.
Science!FIREBOARD+STEEL=BTU RATING
Really, Liberty? So active bolts are more rigid and less prone to distortion in a fire than dead bolts that are integral to the door? I suppose things can be worse. They could have used the same marketing firm as Extreme Shock or Blackhawk.NOT ENOUGH DOOR BOLTS - When temperatures reach 1200-1400 degrees, one-sided door bolts do not hold the door in place as well, allowing distortion and warping to occur and gaps for heat to enter in.
what's that square hole
I understand, but look closely at the square hole, and tell me it was caused by the end of a fire axe coming through it. There doesn't appear to be enough steel "punched" around the edges. Looks more like it was cut or partially cut than it was punched with an axe.
I have no doubt these gun safes will stop your average thief or burglar and that is fine for 90% of folks, and I have no problem if they advertised it as such. But it's kind of insulting to the customer when they go through great lengths to tailor their advertising in such a manner that many folks believe they're buying a level of security much higher than the product actually offers. Maybe this isn't true in all cases, but it seems to me that if a company lets the product speak for itself and it sells, then it's pretty good based on it's merits. If a company has to create an elaborate marketing mystique to sell their product, like Bose, then it probably isn't what you think you're getting.
The punching end of a fireaxe, plain as day.
@a1abdj - I respect your opinions (many of them) but sometimes you just refuse to see the obvious. That square punch is clearly the work of the pick side of the fireaxe.