marlin-run away!

[bassjam]

For $400, I'd keep it and call Marlin and see what they could do.

If you're really worried about quality, find a minty 1970's-80's era 1895, but be prepared to spend $750-900 for it.

 

[wild willy]

Have you ever bought anything you don't have a problem with?All your posts are something being junk or soft metal and screws twisting off maybe you should take somebody with you when you buy something.

 

[Axis II]

Have you ever bought anything you don't have a problem with?All your posts are something being junk or soft metal and screws twisting off maybe you should take somebody with you when you buy something.

maybe you could go with me next time.

if your referring to the Nikon rings then yes they are junk and that's why 2 different online dealers have them on clearance. maybe companies should take a little more time when making things instead of worrying about how cheap they can make them or not even inspect them and send them out the door. I have burris and weaver rings and never had an issue and the weavers have been on and off a dozen times.

 

[Axis II]

Have you ever bought anything you don't have a problem with?All your posts are something being junk or soft metal and screws twisting off maybe you should take somebody with you when you buy something.

I admitted to not giving it a good look over but in all reality why did it leave the factory with 2 different stocks? it was assembled on a sweat shop assembly line probably by someone getting minimum wage now that freedom group took over and they shoved it in the box. I use to bust my ass for minimum wage landscaping and even though I got paid crap I made sure what I did was right. I own some pretty good cheap stuff like a savage axis that will out shoot a $800 rifle, cva ML that will do the same and a handi rifle that's not too shabby either. yes ive purchases some junk like the bushnell scope that was rated for a shotgun and after about 20 shots it broke. the simmons 22 scope that never tracked since day one, Nikon rings. I read a lot of reviews and ask a lot of questions on here and other shooting sites to make sure I'm getting something good. sometimes its good and sometimes not or my expectations for sometime with the name Nikon or marlin are too high. hell all marlin is known for is lever guns and if they cant get it right then that's my fault?

 

[Blkhrt13]

No it's not your fault. It's a sign of the times. My marlin 22 is over twenty years old and shoots like a dream. Freedom Group is a curse. Half of everything they buy they ruin.

 

[eastbank]

top marlin is a 1973 model 1895 in 45-70 and the bottom is a 1973 marlin model 1894 sporter in 44 magnum. both are super working and shooting rifles. i,ve killed deer with both. eastbank.

 

[Axis II]

No it's not your fault. It's a sign of the times. My marlin 22 is over twenty years old and shoots like a dream. Freedom Group is a curse. Half of everything they buy they ruin.

ive wanted a lever action rifle since i was about 14yo when i went on my first deer hunt with a 30-30 but was limited to slug guns in ohio until 3yrs ago they allowed strait walled rifle rounds so being cheap i got a cva 45-70 cause i couldn't afford a marlin at $600. the sale and $100 rebate fogged my better judgement and being a little depressed around birthday Friday so i said screw it and got one. i don't regret getting the rifle itself i regret not waiting for a JM or looking this over real well but IMO we shouldn't have to go over a new rifle with a magnifying glass. ive got a stoeger u/o and Mossberg with better checkering then this thing.

 

[Blkhrt13]

ive wanted a lever action rifle since i was about 14yo when i went on my first deer hunt with a 30-30 but was limited to slug guns in ohio until 3yrs ago they allowed strait walled rifle rounds so being cheap i got a cva 45-70 cause i couldn't afford a marlin at $600. the sale and $100 rebate fogged my better judgement and being a little depressed around birthday Friday so i said screw it and got one. i don't regret getting the rifle itself i regret not waiting for a JM or looking this over real well but IMO we shouldn't have to go over a new rifle with a magnifying glass. ive got a stoeger u/o and Mossberg with better checkering then this thing.

Well you kind of do. That's what happens now a days. Buy a cheaper heater and it costs more time to look it over or more to square it away. My son had a 30-30 marlin he got for his birthday. It had issues. I think it needed to be gone through and cleaned up. It hit point of aim. But it needed fluffing inside.

 

[Nature Boy]

it was assembled on a sweat shop assembly line probably by someone getting minimum wage

I doubt there's anyone working in any manufacturing setting in the direct labor category working for minimum wage. I'm pretty confident in that statement

 

[jmorris]

maybe companies should take a little more time when making things instead of worrying about how cheap they can make them

If you want the finest products you should consider everything except price when making the decision to purchase. You don't always get what you pay for but you always pay for what you get.

Some make the finest product they can, others make products to sell in volumes.

You even acknowledged knowing issues with recent Marlins and made a rush decision to buy because you thought you were getting a "deal".

I decided to buy a Remington/freedom group marlin 1895 45-70. for those that don't know they put out some junk for a few years

The fact that you knew this before you walked into the store, should have told you to spend the extra 30 minutes you had going over the rifle with a fine tooth comb, so to speak. All the research and doing you homework ahead of time won't help a bit if you just throw down cash and have them box it up when you get there.

 

[bassjam]

ive wanted a lever action rifle since i was about 14yo when i went on my first deer hunt with a 30-30 but was limited to slug guns in ohio until 3yrs ago they allowed strait walled rifle rounds so being cheap i got a cva 45-70 cause i couldn't afford a marlin at $600. the sale and $100 rebate fogged my better judgement and being a little depressed around birthday Friday so i said screw it and got one. i don't regret getting the rifle itself i regret not waiting for a JM or looking this over real well but IMO we shouldn't have to go over a new rifle with a magnifying glass. ive got a stoeger u/o and Mossberg with better checkering then this thing.

I was in the same boat, but I just wanted .357 lever action and Marlin still isn't making those yet at the new plant, and no confirmed date on when production will start. So I kept using my 12 ga the past couple years until I found a used Marlin lever action made in the 80's. I probably over-paid for it, but at least I'm happy with the build quality.

 

[Gtscotty]

It seems to me that there is a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth going on over the asthetics of a fairly inexpensive field grade rifle. What do you think drives the 2x to 3x cost difference between Marlins and something like the Mirokus? Mostly fit and finish, which often requires human hands, and is expensive.

If a $400 rifle functions and shoots well, who cares if the stocks are a a slightly different shade? If the answer is you, then you have a couple of options 1) sell the Marlin and buy something much more expensive that will meet your asthetic requirements... Pretty costs. Or 2) open up the old wallet and buy some replacement stocks for your existing gun that are up to your standards.

Me? I would be pretty happy if a $400 .45/70 lever gun operated smoothly and was reasonably accurate.

 

[eastbank]

when i bought the marlin 95 at walmart and after they took the trigger lock off i ask to handle it and looked it over closely and worked the action fast and slow(no ammo in it). it was fairly smooth fast and slow and i knew that it would get smoother with use as my other marlins had. i do like older(pre-83,s) with out the safety, but i don,t mind the newer ones with it enough not to buy one. and as with my other lever actions i use for hunting i only put two rounds in the tube and one in the chamber. eastbank.

 

[jim in Anchorage]

wow way to picky heck just enjoy it a tiny bit of wood color doesn't change the way it kills!!

The man bought a gun, not a lawn mower. He has every right to expect it to look good as well as function well.

 

[Jason_W]

As a positive, there's a ton of aftermarket support for Marlins. If you get a good deal on one that's a bit rough but not defective, there's a lot that can be done to refine and slick them up.

The WWG trigger is an awesome improvement for those not comfortable grinding metal off of trigger parts. Then there's a myriad of sighting options.

I'm not sure about aftermarket stocks for the 1895, though.

 

[wild willy]

The man bought a gun, not a lawn mower. He has every right to expect it to look good as well as function well.

That's right but he looked at it before he bought it

 

[Axis II]

That's right but he looked at it before he bought it

I got your point last night so lets not get this locked. I just wish marlin would have looked at it before sending it out but its my fault now we shall see if they will fix their faulty work. the color isn't what bothers me its obviously 2 different stocks. one has very deep checkering and the other wont even catch a fingernail.

 

[jmorris]

its obviously 2 different stocks.

Not to beat the dead horse but...

I got there with about 30min to spare and made sure the action, wood to metal fit, etc was right...

Not that Marlin needs defending but there is always the possibility that the rifle didn't leave the factory the same way it is now and the mom & pop store felt they had good chance to get rid of it when they agreed to the "deal" price and will sell the "perfect" one they put together from more than one rifle for a premium now.

 

[Blkhrt13]

Not to beat the dead horse but...



Not that Marlin needs defending but there is always the possibility that the rifle didn't leave the factory the same way it is now and the mom & pop store felt they had good chance to get rid of it when they agreed to the "deal" price and will sell the "perfect" one they put together from more than one rifle for a premium now.

That may be possible too.

 

[redneck2]

And there's also the possibility that Bigfoot rode in on a unicorn and did it in the middle of the night. Had space aliens help them.

I worked at the LGS. Nobody that I knew had that kind of ambition to screw somebody over

Dude....for the love of god. It's a cheap friggin' rifle. The fit and finish is a cheap friggin' rifle. Get over it.

 

[Blkhrt13]

I wouldn't even say if it was a brand new but found with a fractured stock that swapping it for a new one and selling it for a deal price is bad or screwing someone over.

 

[jmorris]

I worked at the LGS. Nobody that I knew had that kind of ambition to screw somebody over

Sounds like a soultion in the making.

What is the owner willing to do for this customer to make him happy?

FWIW I bet I could locate an unscrupulous firearms dealer much faster than you could find Bigfoot, an alien or a unicorn.

 

[redneck2]

What is the owner willing to do for this customer to make him happy?

If he read all the whining in this thread, he'd put a revolver to his head and pull the trigger

You guys are beyond nuts.

 

[SwampWolf]

Its my fault 100% for not making 100% sure all was good

No, it's not your fault; it's the fault of the factory that produces products that exhibit no attention to details nor adhere to a basic quality control regimen. The quality, finish and appearance of the wood used to make the stock means a lot to me; the lightly cut checkering would particularly trouble me. Speaking for myself, if I couldn't get the factory to make things right, I'd pay the restocking fee and move on-but I wouldn't forget the unfortunate buying experience and same would be reflected in any future purchasing decisions as well any advice I might have for anyone else interested in my opinion re Marlin and its products.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I can't see that Marlin is at fault. They made the gun, but did not hold it to anyone's head forcing them to buy it. All of the alleged defects were out in the open to be seen upon pre-purchase inspection.