(ME) Teachers Harassing Soldiers' Children

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Teachers Harassing Soldiers' Children

Thanks to Trent Telenko for pointing this one my way. Apparently, the Maine National Guard Family Assistance Center has received about 30 complaints from children of deployed soldiers concerning harassment by school officials. Most of these kids are between 7 and 9 years old.

WABI- TV Bangor Maine | February 21, 2003 | 6 PM News


Alan Grover, WABI-TV: "What the kids are facing is hearing that [from Principals, Teachers and/or Guidance Counsellors] their mother or father is a bad person for taking part in the confrontation with Iraq; comments that are coming from teachers. That's according to officers with the Guard’s Family Assistance Program who've been traveling throughout the state this week. The officers report that such incidents are relatively few in number but that they've occurred in practically every region of the state."

Major Andrew Gibson: "Some kids have even reported that... ah... teachers have said things to them, specifically, about the ah unethical nature of their parent going off to fight."

It gets worse...

"LTC John Mosher: "Soldiers follow our instructions to coordinate with schools to let them know they will be leaving, that their child should be monitored and to keep an eye on 'em."
Consider that for a moment. Most of the children involved are 7 to 9 years of age. These teachers were told what was happening. Their response? Not help, but exploitation of the opportunity to single out and hurt a small child in a vulnerable state.

What kind of person does such a thing?

Imagine what it's like to have your parent away at that age, doing this. "Yes, love, I'm going away for a while... Yes, to fly... No, it isn't safe - I won't lie to you. But I'll be fine, just fine. It's something we have to do. For you. Take care of your brother, and be good, hear? And don't let your Daddy order pizza all the time... OK, then.... I love you... Bye." You're 7 years old; next month, you'll be 8. And there you sit, waiting anxiously for the moment when it's all over and you can see your Mommy again.

Now, imagine this kind of treatment from your Teacher. Or your Principal.


CTD...

Reason has no words, for this is not its child. Morality and decency? Just abstractions in a relativist fog where nothing is real, and no-one ever responsible. No-one, except those within our society whom we are sanctioned by The Cause to hate. For they, and their children, are surely our lawful prey.

Worse still is the weaselly do-nothing attitude of Maine's state officials:


Alan Grover, WABI-TV: "Maine education commissioner Duke Albany says he and the National Guard are discussing the allegations and he will issue an advisory to the state's educators if that's warranted. For now, though, Albany says that such allegations seem very out of character for Maine's dedicated teaching force and that no parents have made any such complaints to the education department.
Responsibility must be a word they don't spell very well in Maine; ditto leadership. He could have said that such treatment, if true, would be unconscionable. That he takes these allegations very seriously, and encourages people to come forward. Above all, that if due process found these allegations to be true, the consequences for those involved would be serious.

He said none of those things, of course. Bureaucrats can be slithy toves at the best of times; why risk real unpleasantness when it can all be swept away with a casual dismissal and some empty symbolism? There, all better now. The children? Oh, they'll get over it.

This. Must. Stop. And I don't just mean in Maine.

Maine isn't the problem, just the latest symptom of a widespread mindset on the Left that they have the right to use public monies and positions of trust to wage war on their political enemies through their enemies' children. We've seen this before. In the NEA's post-9/11 lesson plans. In "peace education" programs during the 1980s. In teacher's background materials put out by a Ontario Teacher's union that de-legitimaize Israel and explain, in November of 2001, "Why America is Hated." It's hardly new. It's hardly noticed.

It's time we noticed.

There's a direct connection between this sort of disrespect for parents and the willingness to use children under one's trust as political tools, and the abuse being reported in Maine. The transition from underhanded indoctrination to direct attacks on children in their charge is but a small additional step, one that mirrors the growing response of the "movement Left" as a whole to events around it. A movement defined by what it hates rather than what it loves must, in the end, begin to act accordingly. In Maine, and elsewhere too.

What to do? In a phrase, we make people pay.

The reason this kind of behaviour continues is simple. It continues because it doesn't carry consequences. Because the people who precipitate these abuses stay in the system, to continue their conduct and then act as enablers for others later in their careers. Because the bureaucrats who abdicate and lie in the face of abuse learn that it's easier than confronting the problem. You want to know why? That's why.

When will it stop? When people get fired for the kind of conduct described here. When proposing one-sided politicization of the classroom as a captive forum for one's views becomes a career-limiting move. When officials who abdicate their responsibility to protect the children in their care from abuse become ex-officials - demoted, fired, or reassigned in the wake of a public outcry. When parents have a choice, and use it to punish schools that fail the test of responsibility. It doesn't need to happen every single time. But it does need to happen.

This is the 21st century. Like minds can connect on wavelengths of light, and the local can become national in a serious hurry. Events like the launch of Campus Watch and national coverage of the SFSU riot are shining the glare of public scrutiny in places that have grown unused to seeing it. It's time they saw more.

Welcome to blood, toil, tears and sweat.

This is hard. It takes time. It doesn't always succeed. Just like all the other necessary and worthwhile things in life. Sometimes decency doesn't come as a given. Sometimes, you have to fight for it - and punish those who think it doesn't apply to them.

You want to push your foreign policy views? Invite and present other viewpoints, or get a show on local cable. You want to tell my daughter that abortion is murder? Buy a radio ad. You say you wanna revolution? Well, you know, we'd all love to see the blog.

Just leave our kids out of it. Or else.

http://windsofchange.net/archives/003102.html
 
Follow-Up: Protecting Soldier's Kids
This is a follow up and backfill to Joe's post. First, I originally saw this article as an item over on the FreeRepublic.com web site. Then I called around and e-mailed and found that there are similar cases happening to military kids in Texas and Kansas as well.

This is what the Maine National Guard sent to the parents of one of the victimized children:


""Thank you for your interest on this most troubling matter. Our Family Assistance Centers have reported cases from Aroostook County to Southern Maine. We are reluctant to give out specific schools and the individuals involved in the interest of giving the education community a chance to address the problem itself. Also, parents wanted the opportunity to pursue the issue through their local school boards first.

In all, we have over thirty complaints that name schools and individual principals, teachers and guidance counselors. If one considers that these complaints come from just the parents who attended our briefings and only from children who told their parents, we are concerned that the problem may be more widespread than we know.

We are recording the complaints, and I will personally visit these educators to express our concern as a professional organization and ask for their cooperation.

Ultimately, our main concern and first responsibility is the safety of our children during these uncertain times. Maine has a core of dedicated and professional educators, but we will challenge any individual who places our children at risk due to their own political ideologies.""


The folks over on the Free Republic are already doing media outreach on this story with the various conservative talk radio outlets and with the Fox News Channel. Myself, I have contracted my various e-mail lists and alerted some fellow bloggers. So this issue is being addressed.

Backing up and taking a wider view, what we are seeing here are the wages of the utopians being counted out.

Thoreau once said something to the effect that "Far better that you be robbed by the basest villain than be helped by someone coming to "do good" for you. For there is no evil the self-righteous will not descend to in order to "do good" by their lights."

The true evil of the Anti-American Left is that they see America as evil and _anything_ they do to oppose it as virtuous. Soldier's kids are not real to them, save as symbols in their utopian fantasy ideology.

I have an acquaintance in the Marin Country California ACLU from one of my e-mail "list of usual suspects" worked up enough about it that he forwarded the Free Republic text to local school boards with a broad outline of the liability implications for the school districts if their teachers are caught doing it.

...... continued here

here is where the FreeRepublic discussion is taking place
 
Do a widespread survey of all the soldier's kids, compile a list of teachers and the administrators that put up with it and fire the lot of them. Publish the names and addresses in the papers and ask that everyone in the community completely shun them.

Only because this is THR am I not saying what I truely think should be done with these cretins. If I was one of the Guardsmen when I got back I would be hard pressed not to have a little face to face talk (or other action) with these slimes.

:fire: :cuss: :fire:

Greg
 
I said it before whilst TFL was active, and I'll say it again here:

It's because of shenanigans like this that my children will never attend public schools.

Tall Man

Go private. Go well.
 
I have a son reporting for basic training in August, and I will NOT tolerate this kind of behavior from people who ought to know better.
I had a talk with one of the teachers last year who was preaching anti-gun nonsense to the class-made it very clear that he was NEVER to foist his opinions onto my son in any way, shape or form or his professional career would be at a quick end.

I think the first stop for the parents of these kids should be at the school board. I won't send my children to a private school because we already pay for public schooling as it is, and unless or until they give vouchers, they will either teach the truth or I will hound them until they give up.
 
If as reported this is about as vile as it gets. I think it should make all of us wake up about the cultural war that's been going on for the last forty years and where we stand. America-haters have entrenched themselves in the mind-forming seats of power. Lose your next generation and you've lost your country. Frankly, I believe this will all end very badly unless we start taking what's going on here very seriously and speak out aggressively.
 
Give the school principal ONE DAY to fix that mess, then start printing names addresses, phone numbers and pictures of those MISERABLE TRAITORS.

After all the trouble I had in publik skool, any skool official from the janitor/custodian up to Skool Bored President that messes up in any way is NEVER forgiven or forgotten.

And yes, I have had a hand in at least a couple of them losing their jobs over the last 25 years.
 
It matters not to me a whole lot what their opinion of the mission (possibly coming war) happens to be. They can even express that opinion (in appropriate places-school is NOT! one of those places), BUT those who are indeed harassing the kids of military personnel should be FIRED before THAT class is over and by nightfall should be on a plane to be airdropped into Baghdad!-parachute optional.
 
:barf: :cuss: :banghead: :barf: regarding the reports.

Delmar, WELL DONE! Parental involvement in your children's education is a sacred obligation.
 
That's totally discusting. I wish that I was a parent in that situation because I would be raising hell in the principals office, the superintendants office, and the school board. Children should not be the pawn of political hate speach, or any political speach for that matter.
 
First, let me say that I beleive what is taking place is completely wrong and very inappropriate and each person should be held accountable. I do however also beleive that it is appropriate and even needed for discussions of this sort to occur in our schools, but in a 3rd person sense. In other words. I beleive the children need to understand that there are more voices in our Country than those who egerly support and advocate for war. And because of this, kids need to know that "they (the kids) are not the bad guys" simply because others advocate against the war.

Conflicts, such as our Country is currently experiencing, do not occur every day and because of this...it brings about learning opportunities for everyone on all levels and should be utilized (appropriately) as a learning tool that can help build stronger and healthier social values and systems that benefit everyone.

Like it or not....the fact remains that historically, our political leaders have a overt habit of wanting to be the "world police", believing that we have the absolute right to impose our social, judicial, political and moral/vaule systems upon others and if they do not accept it, then we find some reason to condem them and take military action...even if only by a presence. I resent this and I am not any less "American" because I resent it. We have so many problems existing in our own Country that we frequently forget about and never bother to correct. To me its rather hypocritical for us to claim we have the "right" to be the "world police", when our politicial leaders commonly and customarily forsake their own people. We create "terrorist" and then get mad when they turn on us...to me, its a bit annal to beleive that we are so powerful and all important that those our country has supplied weapons to....to do our bidding for us....will not also turn on us and bite the hand that has fed them. Maybe if the "American People" spent more time holding our own political leaders accountable when they do something that is wrong, we would not be in the sociail/judicial/political/moral/vaule system problems that we face each and every day.....

People use formats like these to complain, gripe and moan... but...when was the last time you stood firmly to actively help a stranger who was being wronged? When was the last time you went to a City Council meeting to voice your concerns about conduct your City Officials are doing that has or is hurting another person (a complete stranger to you)? We tend to assume the belief that the "Courts" will correct the problems...why in the heck should a victim be forced to use the Courts when the people "collectively" can make a more powerful and quicker presence by applying "public opinion" pressure on our political leaders? Yet, we all too often accept the belief that we hold no responsibility to do anything to help others, leastwise we are somehow directly involved and stand to loose as much.

Not too long ago, I began hearing stories from the citizens of the town I live in...stories about police misconduct, abuse and so forth. The citizens appeared to me to be looking for some viable pathway to change things for the better....so I decided to get involved and try to help. I began advocating for a civilian over- sight board to regulate police practices, policies and procedures and to ensure that the "people" had some form of equality in justice by having equal representation. Small town corruption is far different than what exists in larger cities. In the end, I found that none of the citizens who "complained" to me, bothered to take any kind of stand with me....they were ok with the fight being waged, as long as someone else took all the risks.... in a short time, a lawsuit will be filed against the City as a result of the abundant amount of retaliation various City Officials imposed upon me for my avocations.....and despite my caring about the "people" to take risks to help my fellow man.....I now stand alone.

So, the next time you want to post a thread to complain about some injustice....try asking yourself first...when was the last time you took personal risks to help someone in need? When was the last time you tried to visibly and actively make a true difference in an appropriate way. It's easy to sit in our homes, the safety of our homes and write a thread that complains and complains and complains. It is a format that never truly identifies who we are, where we live or work, so we are not really taking any risk in expressing our words. I am not saying that outlets such as this are not important or do not hold a value, because they do and are important. All I am saying is that if this is the only means that you will express your voice, your beliefs...yet, never really take any personal risk in trying to make things better for a complete stranger to you.....then all you will ever be left with is a faceless voice that never really makes a positive impact and in this, you cheat yourself and others from your care.
 
Firing is too good for them. ALL of them, including administrators that try to protect them. Any union bosses, too.


Fire them and ban them for life.
 
This is the worst. It reinforces every bad thing I've posted about the teachers' union. By comparison, it absolutely trivializes all the stupid things the Hollywood entertainers spout.

The best thing I can think of to do is to let other Americans know what's going on. I'm going to copy the story and start emailing it to everybody I know. If you have a better plan, follow it and let us know what you're doing. If not, you might want to adopt mine.
 
This exempliefies the fact that the liberals are the lowest of the low. No class. No morals. No integrity. No grit. No conscience. It just doesn't get any lower.......:fire:

As to this:
to me, its a bit annal to beleive that we are so powerful and all important that those our country has supplied weapons to....to do our bidding for us....will not also turn on us and bite the hand that has fed them.

If one of my beloved dogs, that I trained and take full responsibility for, bit me or anyone else, I would take full responsibility and shoot that dog. Why should I expect a lower standard from the government?
 
Someone please post names and email addresses.

I remember when my dad shipped out for Swift Strike. Didn't know the difference between war and war games. Scared me. So now we have predator teachers engaging in philosophical combat with children (under their care) who can not defend themselves. Is there any limit to how low these people are willing to stoop?

Predators must be held accountable.
 
I teach high school mathematics, and I am simply disgusted. I would be looking out for these students, not criticizing their parents. Those kids are going through an emotionally tough time, and they do not need somebody in a position of power telling them that their parent is doing the wrong thing and being unethical!

Not all teachers are idiots like this one.
 
I believe you have missed my point...I am not saying that taking action against those who turn on us is wrong...only that we should not be surprised when it happens....moreover, maybe we should be a little more careful in recruiting others to do our bidding for us.....and stop supplying them with the means to be more pains in our butts later on....it is not about being "liberal" or "conservative"...it's simply about having commonsense and understanding that when you put others in a position to do your bidding for you....they in turn also have the ability to turn on you as well.
 
Patch, with no disrespect intended to you, I must ask: are you a teacher? Have you studied pedagogy? Are you a parent?

There is absolutely no excuse for even bringing this topic up in class with a bunch of children in that age group. None. 7-9 year-olds would be between 2nd and 4th grade. Tempting though it might be, to anyone on any side of the debate, a third-grade classroom is not the place. That's not our job.

Would not have happened in my classroom. I apologize on behalf of my leftist colleagues, because if I know the type, they won't apologize for themselves. They're probably emailing each other right now about how unfair it is that the right-wing extremists are picking on them just for doing what they think is right.
And no, they probably see absolutely no irony in that complaint.
 
If you want to harass my children then you are going to have to enter my home to do so. In that case I will give you an interesting lesson in manners.

One of the benefits of Home Schooling.

Good Shooting
RED
 
This is a sorry day for our educational system and a sorrier day for the nation. Teachers who engage in this behavior should be censured or fired. You just can't make stuff like this up!
 
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