Mini-review: Kel-Tec SU-16

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Preacherman

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Well, I picked up my SU-16 last week. I got a good deal: a customer bought one from a gunshop I frequent, and after a week, decided he didn't like it, and traded it in on an AR-15. I got it at a good price, virtually brand-new! :D

Firstly, let me say that I expected this rifle to be a bit flimsy: but I've been pleasantly surprised. It's light, certainly, but not flimsy. All the parts fit together well, and there's no "shake, rattle and roll" to worry about. With a hinged stock and a fore-end that folds out into a bipod, I'd been worried about this, but so far nothing to complain about.

The sights are not great, but OK, and plenty adequate for minute-of-mugger out to 100 yards or so. I understand that a company will soon be producing a replacement front sight machined out of aluminum, which will take M-16/AR-15 front sight posts, and I'll definitely look into that if it can take an XS Sights Tritium front post. I think this would be an improvement. The rear sight is a normal type of ghost-ring: it's mounted on the Weaver/Picatinny-style rail, and can be removed if a scope or red-dot sight is mounted.

To test it, I used Federal military-style ball ammo, 55gr. At 100 yards, with open sights, I found I could hold 3" to 4" groups all day, shooting from a bench with a sandbag rest. I then mounted a cheap BSA red dot sight, and this shrank the groups to 2" to 3". Finally, I put on a 4x scope, and after zeroing, all groups stayed sub-2". I'm very impressed by such accuracy in what is, after all, a fairly low-cost, lightweight rifle. It's certainly better accuracy than my Mini-14, which struggles to maintain 3" groups with a scope.

Shooting from field positions, the gun was light and handy to mount, and easy to manoever. I think it's actually better than an AR-15 in my hands. I didn't have any problem with the absence of a pistol grip. Recoil was negligible, and I don't think anyone would have a problem with it. LOP was a bit long for me, but then I prefer shorter LOP on my long guns anyway - it might be just fine for others.

As for the folding bipod, I haven't used this yet. I'm going to break the gun in some more, then try it from prone to see how well it works.

The folding stock is secured by a single pin. This worries me, as such a pin can be easily lost. I noticed on another site that another owner has replaced the pin with a cotter-pin bought at a hardware store, to which he's attached what looks like a 1" split ring. I like this idea, as it makes the pin easier to insert or extract, and also bigger, so that it's less likely to be overlooked. I guess one could clip it to a key-holder on one's belt, or put it in a pocket, or even clip a light stick to it in the gun case, so that it would be much more noticeable.

Suffice it to say that even though I don't like the .223/5.56mm. as a defensive cartridge, this rifle makes good use of it. I'll probably standardize on the Hornady TAP 55gr. round. and find a good red dot sight for it. Should make a very effective HD/truck gun, particularly with the ability to fold up into a smaller package. I'd certainly recommend this over any AR-15 for such uses - but then I don't like the AR-15, or any gun that deposits its exhaust gases into its action. Too dirty for my tastes! :mad:
 
Good reading, that. I've looked at the SU-16 once or twice and I keep telling myself that

a) I already have an AR-15 so I don't need this.
b) I still don't have a (single-action revolver, .22lr rifle, real shotgun, FAL etc..)
c) I really don't need to spend the money.

Reviews like this are going to make it hard for me not to buy a SU-16 eventually.
 
Reviews like this are going to make it hard for me not to buy a SU-16 eventually."

Yeah me too. Now if If only i can find one. Now that's the challenge.
 
Bryan: See - You have an AR so you don't need to buy mags! You're already there, pretty much. ;) (Rationalization #23452389)

Thanks for the review, Preacherman.

Shot my SU-16 (production number in the 80s) again today. With a Tasco red dot, I can hit metal 14 out of 15 shots, off hand, at 100 yards - that's fun! Can't wait to do this at night with Cavin et al hammering with M1As and 8mms in backup. Those steel targets send a shower of sparks - fun night shooting.

I cannot wait for the sight upgrade and need an improved rear sight BADLY, and an easier to use pin per P-mans cite above.

Ammo wise, I'm thinking about big battle pack of surplus or some of that Wolf ammo (the new stuff) -reason being: my SU-16 simply KILLS brass, dead. During the violent ejection process, the neck or shoulder of most (if not all) of my brass has a solid hit where the brass hit SOMETHING (yet unknown).

Haven't tried different weights of bullets yet - would love to hear how different brands of ammo are working for folks, accuracy-wise. Seeing a number of reviews with 2-3 MOA or better performance (lunde's most notably, with Black Hills Match)
 
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