MN CCW shooting qual ?

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Hi all, a quick search didn't seem to offer any answers to my question.

Can someone give me specifics about how the live fire shooting qualification portion of the Minnesota CCW course is done? Specifically, are the targets silouettes or standard, what distances, how many rounds, any off-hand or one-handed shooting, etc?

I'm going to get signed up for the course and would like to know what to expect.

Thanks in advance for any help.
 
The best place to answer your question is here... (I don't recall the exact details). http://www.twincitiescarry.com

Join up for the best information on MN Carry Permits! Remember in MN, you don't have to carry concealed so it is a permit to carry a handgun. :)
 
You might want to check with the instructor. It seems fairly normal to shoot about 50 rounds slow fire at combat distances. I know of one instructor who will have you shoot about 200 rounds including drawing from a holster. It pays to shop around.
 
There's no legal requirement defining the qual, so it's up to the instructor. From what I've heard/read/seen, it's mostly a test to check your gun handling.

Some instructors strip down the qual, if you're at an outdoor range and it's -9F and windy.
 
The answer, as noted, is that there is no set standard that is required. When I do my classes, the standard I use is "Can the applicant safely load and discharge the firearm." In some cases we know that answer in just a few rounds, and in others we need some remediation/correction.

Clearly more novice shooters have less skills and may need more guidance, while experienced shooters see this as just another hoop to jump through as part of the permitting process.

Instructor's philosophies differ. I do not see the permit class as a "how to shoot" class, and accordingly my classes have a fairly minimal standard...again, are the people safe and can they handle their gun so as to not be a danger to themselves or others. We look at handling, safety etc.; accuracy is far down the criteria in my classes. Our typical class uses just a small 8.5x11 paper, from 15 to 20 feet. Hit the paper on your shots. That is more than adequate for self-defense.

Being a retired lawyer, my classes focus more on the legal aspects...what does the MCPPA allow, what are the rules for carrying, what are the use of force considerations etc. My partners that work with me also offer advance defensive shooting classes as we do feel that is both useful and important, but do not feel that the ability to put X shots in the 10-ring out of Y attempts should be a mandatory qualifier.

It is hard to quantify "reasonable self defense accuracy", but it is all that I require.

The State law just requires an actual shooting exercise. It is intentionally left vague so as to permit individual instructor variations.

The twincitiescarry.com/forum is a good start. Many good people there as was noted.

Paul Horvick
http://shootingsafely.com
 
Thanks everyone for the replies. I wanted to make sure I wouldn't be required to hit a golf ball at 100 yards or something like that. :p Generally I do well with the book work, but I'll be the first to admit my shooting skills could use a little work. Though, it sounds like I shouldn't have a problem with the targets or distances stated. And I'm confident with my loading and handling proficiency.

Thanks for the links, too, I've only had a few minutes to peruse them, but that TC Carry forum looks good. I appreciate everyone's help.

This forum is a big reason I decided to get the permit. I don't necessarily agree with having to ask permission to exercise my rights, but this time it may be good to be a statistic. The way I see it, the more people shown to be legally and safely carrying can only help to educate the masses that it isn't a bad thing or an activity to be shunned or ashamed of. Maybe someday carrying will be "the norm" again. One can hope.
 
Can you see out of one eye? Can you hold a gun somehow and somehow pull the trigger? You should be able to pass it.

Mine was 8.5x11 paper. 50 shots, had to hit with at least 35 somewhere on the paper. We started at 7 feet - 20 shots. Moved out to 15 feet - 20 more. 21 feet and that's the last 10 shots. FEET, not yards.
 
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