jason41987
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i know my topic seems pretty specific, but ive been thinking a lot lately about how in the later 19th century, when cartridge ammunition was new, and expensive, people purchased a rifle, and pistol that fired the same round, most popular of course was .44wcf...
so with ammo prices going up, availability going down, i was wondering if there was a modern take on this combination that could be implemented today...
so i was curious as to which cartridges would be available for such a task... preferably something with a pointed bullet that would retain enough energy and accuracy downrange to hunt with, while also being potent enough to be used as a semi automatic military rifle, but being small enough to fit in a handgun such as a custom 1911
i noticed the 9x25 dillon cartridge sometimes used in custom 1911s has close to 900fpe at the muzzle, its a 10mm necked down to 9mm... perhaps a .358" pointed rifle bullet could be used with this, and MAYBE, if neccessary, modifications could be made to fire this very potent round in the 1911 with the pointed bullets
pointed bullets are obviously more accurate, drop less, and retain more energy downrange because they dont have as much drag while traveling through the air, and since the 9x25 dillons OAL length is about that of a 45acp, 38 super, etc it may be possible to convert a pistol-caliber carbine to fire it... but how much energy would such a round deliver out of a 16-18 inch barrel?.. at 900fpe from a pistol, it might just end up close to .223 energies from a rifle
other candidates for such a cartridge could be .357 sig, 7.62x25 tokarev, or 7.63x25 mauser, and im sure a variety of wildcats are possibly....
so, id just like to know your take on this, and if you could get such performance from a rifle and still fire it from a handgun, how interested would you be in the combo?...
just remember, as of right now i dont have any plans to do this, just looking to discuss the possibilities surrounding the general idea of modernizing a rifle/pistol combination with modern semi automatics
so with ammo prices going up, availability going down, i was wondering if there was a modern take on this combination that could be implemented today...
so i was curious as to which cartridges would be available for such a task... preferably something with a pointed bullet that would retain enough energy and accuracy downrange to hunt with, while also being potent enough to be used as a semi automatic military rifle, but being small enough to fit in a handgun such as a custom 1911
i noticed the 9x25 dillon cartridge sometimes used in custom 1911s has close to 900fpe at the muzzle, its a 10mm necked down to 9mm... perhaps a .358" pointed rifle bullet could be used with this, and MAYBE, if neccessary, modifications could be made to fire this very potent round in the 1911 with the pointed bullets
pointed bullets are obviously more accurate, drop less, and retain more energy downrange because they dont have as much drag while traveling through the air, and since the 9x25 dillons OAL length is about that of a 45acp, 38 super, etc it may be possible to convert a pistol-caliber carbine to fire it... but how much energy would such a round deliver out of a 16-18 inch barrel?.. at 900fpe from a pistol, it might just end up close to .223 energies from a rifle
other candidates for such a cartridge could be .357 sig, 7.62x25 tokarev, or 7.63x25 mauser, and im sure a variety of wildcats are possibly....
so, id just like to know your take on this, and if you could get such performance from a rifle and still fire it from a handgun, how interested would you be in the combo?...
just remember, as of right now i dont have any plans to do this, just looking to discuss the possibilities surrounding the general idea of modernizing a rifle/pistol combination with modern semi automatics