Charlie Horse
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You too?I'm imagining some bearded ankle biter with a vape pen in his hand ...
I hate to trot the same line out too often, but as Frank Reagan said, "Always certain, seldom correct"
"Modern Service Revolver" for concealed carry?
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I hate to trot the same line out too often, but as Frank Reagan said, "Always certain, seldom correct"
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On second thought, I do kind of wonder - was the piece a content manager brain child, which has no legs, and Caleb hungry enough to keep a position that he simply dumped out a piece? If a content manager on Recoilweb challenged their writing staff - we need a piece on revolvers! Somebody come up with a hook. - and then someone in the room hollered, nobody carries a service revolver any more, we could spin that tired piece into something... who here knows anything about revolvers? Hey, didn’t Caleb shoot some revolvers on that show he was on? Awesome, Caleb’s our revolver expert!
Caleb, I need 1,000 words on my desk by 3 o’clock. No budget, just an op-ed piece with enough pop culture hook to make it fly for a week...
So a relevance-barren subject gets regurgitated - since it’s a continuance of a prior editorial he’d done - and runs on their page.
Not so different than doing a book report in middle school and high school on the same book, just because the teacher says you have to do a report on a college-prep list book.
Caleb, I need 1,000 words on my desk by 3 o’clock. No budget, just an op-ed piece with enough pop culture hook to make it fly for a week...
So a relevance-barren subject gets regurgitated - since it’s a continuance of a prior editorial he’d done - and runs on their page.
Not so different than doing a book report in middle school and high school on the same book, just because the teacher says you have to do a report on a college-prep list book.
fastbolt
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Not ever having met the gentleman who authored the article that seems to have bunched up so many panties, I can only go by his online profile, background and other written material.
His background as a reserve USAF combat arms instructor, and some acceptable degree of hands-on experience and sufficient trigger time in competition venues, would seem to grant him the right to have formed some opinions along the way.
Being a young man in his 30's it's understandable that he might use somewhat different terminology when it comes to "service revolvers" and "compact revolvers", meaning not calling them duty revolvers or snubs.
The recent article strikes me more as an addendum to previous articles he's written on revolvers, rather than something intended to be an in-depth examination of the subject. Rather like referencing an earlier collection of thoughts, and adding some new changes that have come along in the subject, like some new guns and reconsidering calibers.
Probably interesting reading for beginners and neophytes. Nothing wrong with that.
Many of the well-aged and well-seasoned modern experts around today were also that young at some point, you know.
Us older revolver shooters, and especially those of us who carried duty revolvers and off-duty revolvers working in LE, might wonder about some of the perspectives younger shooters think they've "discovered", but we were also the new kids on the block in our early days. I remember when some folks still argued against using barrels as short as 4" for duty revolvers, and felt that only 5-6+" barrels were really duty-worthy. I worked with my fair share of senior guys who carried long-barreled revolvers on-duty.
Times always move on and change, and looking at any subject with both young and old eyes can result in different people (and age groups) looking at the same subject and seeing different things.
No biggie.
Matter of fact, I was just having a conversation a little while back with a current LE firearms instructor. I've known him all the time he's been an instructor, and he's reaching the point of becoming a senior instructor (15 years?). Anyway, the point is that he's discovered an interest in revolvers, especially S&W L-frames. He happily told me that he discovered that learning to shoot his L-frame in DA has made him a better pistol shooter with his plastic pistols, and that suddenly his plastic pistol triggers seem much lighter by comparison. The light comes on ...
His background as a reserve USAF combat arms instructor, and some acceptable degree of hands-on experience and sufficient trigger time in competition venues, would seem to grant him the right to have formed some opinions along the way.
Being a young man in his 30's it's understandable that he might use somewhat different terminology when it comes to "service revolvers" and "compact revolvers", meaning not calling them duty revolvers or snubs.
The recent article strikes me more as an addendum to previous articles he's written on revolvers, rather than something intended to be an in-depth examination of the subject. Rather like referencing an earlier collection of thoughts, and adding some new changes that have come along in the subject, like some new guns and reconsidering calibers.
Probably interesting reading for beginners and neophytes. Nothing wrong with that.
Many of the well-aged and well-seasoned modern experts around today were also that young at some point, you know.
Us older revolver shooters, and especially those of us who carried duty revolvers and off-duty revolvers working in LE, might wonder about some of the perspectives younger shooters think they've "discovered", but we were also the new kids on the block in our early days. I remember when some folks still argued against using barrels as short as 4" for duty revolvers, and felt that only 5-6+" barrels were really duty-worthy. I worked with my fair share of senior guys who carried long-barreled revolvers on-duty.
Times always move on and change, and looking at any subject with both young and old eyes can result in different people (and age groups) looking at the same subject and seeing different things.
No biggie.
Matter of fact, I was just having a conversation a little while back with a current LE firearms instructor. I've known him all the time he's been an instructor, and he's reaching the point of becoming a senior instructor (15 years?). Anyway, the point is that he's discovered an interest in revolvers, especially S&W L-frames. He happily told me that he discovered that learning to shoot his L-frame in DA has made him a better pistol shooter with his plastic pistols, and that suddenly his plastic pistol triggers seem much lighter by comparison. The light comes on ...
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Caution, exposed trigger. Faint of heart should avoid looking.
When I first started carrying the converted M28-2, I used a Biachi 5BH, then a Safariland M29. Later I switched to a copy of the Brill style holster or as I now call it, my Sunday holster.
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The introduction of the Colt Cobra, King Cobra, S&W M66 (2.75 in bbl), and Kimber K6 series I think does open up more opportunities to conceal carry a mid weight 6 shooter. When I think of concealed carry, I am primarily referring to an iwb holster. Here in Houston, I can only wear a jacket maybe two months during the year.
You don't need to wear a jacket. Just wear a loose fitting shirt untucked -- a bush shirt, hawaiian shirt, camp shirt, bowling shirt, western shirt, an oxford, polo, guayabera... pretty much anything but a rash guard or spandex bicycling jersey. With a high-ride OWB pancake holster, 4" or 5" barrels are still under the shirt -- and I'm not a big dude at all.
Jackets aren't always hot, and there are a lot of people that could make a serious upgrade to their wardrobe with an inexpensive ($100) blazer or sportcoat. They don't add much more warmth than a long sleeve shirt, and unless you'll be out for hours in the mid-day sun, they're not too hot for the southwest where cars and buildings have AC. For another option, check out the "Amazon Essentials Men's Knit Sport Coat." It's not really a sport coat, but knit and unlined. Unless anything more than a tank top is too much, it wouldn't be too hot, and it's plenty long for concealment. I'm not trying to sell them, just pointing out there are a lot of options. You can also find inexpensive linen blazers. All of these would look great with just jeans or chinos.
Jackets aren't always hot, and there are a lot of people that could make a serious upgrade to their wardrobe with an inexpensive ($100) blazer or sportcoat. They don't add much more warmth than a long sleeve shirt, and unless you'll be out for hours in the mid-day sun, they're not too hot for the southwest where cars and buildings have AC. For another option, check out the "Amazon Essentials Men's Knit Sport Coat." It's not really a sport coat, but knit and unlined. Unless anything more than a tank top is too much, it wouldn't be too hot, and it's plenty long for concealment. I'm not trying to sell them, just pointing out there are a lot of options. You can also find inexpensive linen blazers. All of these would look great with just jeans or chinos.
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Beautiful collection. I'm jealous
RealGun
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The author should project his concern for what others do, not in what they carry but how they dress. The choice of gun is a function of how it is to be concealed and how much it weighs. We can't do much about what others do, when at least they are armed at some level. The cautions I would include are having a false sense of security and how one would actually get that little gun out of their pocket at the moment. You have to wonder about situational awareness. I don't think number of rounds is a critical factor, considering the statistics on shootings. Personally, I like to keep the six in six-shooter. Lately though I am liking my XDE and a spare mag, now that I found the ideal holster for it (MASC). There are probably similar single stack 9s.
cheygriz
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For several years, I carried my service weapon, a Ruger Security Six, 357 with 6 inch barrel in a Bianchi shoulder rig. Never had a problem.
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