Mossberg Patriot

[RunninLate]

Was thinking about getting a Ruger American rifle or Savage Axis in 308. Having a hard time finding an Axis II. A friend mentioned that the Mossberg Patriot has gotten some great reviews. Not really a fan of Mossberg or Savage to be honest but thing do change.

I do not plan to hunt with the rifle. Just want a 308 to play around with and looking for an entry level gun.

Anybody shot a Mossberg or know anyone that has?

 

[Cump]

Looks like a 100 atr with improvements and more options. I have an atr in 30-06, which I picked up as a low-cost hunting rifle with iron sights. It also has the lightning trigger, like the Patriot. I've put a Burris Fullfield on it and have measured a low of 1.25 in groups at 100 yards, with 1.5 being typical for me. I think a better rifleman could get it my rifle under 1 moa.

So I'd be comfortable with the Mossberg in that price range, if the stock feels good to you. But if not for the iron sights, I'd have gone with a Ruger (which I've shot and liked too).

 

[Macchina]

I think the new Mossberg looks like their best rifle yet. The stock laminate is pretty cool (laser cut textured grip panels instead of cut checkering). I was really interested in possibly a magnum variety but the barrel length only goes to 22" (even on the 300 Win Mag). It's an 8 pound rifle (good for heavy recoil) which seems a bit wasted to me when you can get a 24" or 26" barrel and still be a pound lighter.


The stainless and laminate variety was reviewed in this month's Guns and Ammo (in .375 Ruger) and it is quite a looker. It comes with nice open sights and quite a few features.

Keep in mind, it's still a budget rifle. The trigger guard and a large part of the recoil-bearing frame are plastic. Ironically the rifle uses cross-bolts through the stock to help deal with heavy recoil but the bolts interface with a plastic frame...

 

[Captcurt]

Watching and waiting.

I have been watching for their wood guns to come out. My distributors have some of the synthetic guns now and I was tempted to grab a camo deer thug in 270, but decided to wait for the wood. If they shoot anything like the MVPs they should sell.

 

[RunninLate]

Today i went to get the Mossberg Patriot just because I could not find a Ruger American or Savage Axis II. Right before I paid for the Mossberg I had them check again on the Savage with a scope and one of their suppliers just got a couple in. Put down a couple hundred dollars and asked them to get one for me. It should be here in 2 or 3 days.

Now waiting on the reloading supplies for the 308.

 

[Captcurt]

I need another one.

I had to pull this thread up again after spending a little range time with Patriot. I ordered a synthetic stocked 308, lapped the barrel with Iosso and loaded up a couple of loads with 165gr Accubonds and IMR- 4895. I had a 3X9 Legend Ultra to stick on it and off to the range. The factory Federal rounds that I used for sight-in shot a 3 round group measuring 1 3/8" after 4 rounds to get it zeroed. Then to handloads. A three round group measuring .78" center to center with 39gr and a 5 shot group measuring 1.1" with 40gr. 4 of those were just under 3/4" with vertical stringing. Not too shabby for a $300 rifle.

The stock on this rifle looks great. Kind of reminiscent of the Model 70 Winchester. My only gripe is the creepy trigger and the plastic magazine. The trigger is not that bad but it did have a little creep. Just enough to be noticeable. The magazine worked well but it looks as if it would be very easy to crush or crack.

All in all, I believe that Mossberg has a solid entry into the econo-gun market. With the addition of wood and laminate stocks they might very well take over.

 

[kamml]

Mossberg Patriot 243

The 243 synthetic Patriot I have is an under 1" rifle at 100yds with Hornaday Superperformance 95gr ammo. I am very pleased. I shot from my rifle rest to sight in the scope too. If I had my bunny ear and front bag I bet I could have broke the under 3/4" barrier with no problem. I was getting some flyers at first until I took the strain off the stock by using the rifle rest adjustments to get the scope cross hairs right on target as opposed to my pul,ling it up too tight. My bad. I was flexing the stock trying to pull it on target. With just myfront bag and bunny rear there would have been less torque on the rifle period and it would have probably tightened up even more. I have prettier rifles in my battery but it is right up there accuracy wise with my best shooting model 70 308.

 

[richie]

[ Glad to read some are getting good accuracy out of there Patriots. Mine sucks, Its a 25-06, First time to the range and my shots were all over the target (14"x18" target). went home and mounted a different scope, no change, tried some loads of IMR4350, loads were grouping about 8". Mounted a different scope and tried some more of those 4350 loads but no difference. Then a guy suggested I try H4831, tried the load on the label and I got my first decent group about 3". I spent yesterday loading up 51.5,50.0,49.5,and 49.0 grn loads(5ea.) Was hoping to go today, but not having a good day. I really like the rifle, it has a bunch of nice features that you would find on a much more expensive rifle. I'll eventually figure out what it likes.

 

[Montimus]

The 243 synthetic Patriot I have is an under 1" rifle at 100yds with Hornaday Superperformance 95gr ammo. I am very pleased. I shot from my rifle rest to sight in the scope too. If I had my bunny ear and front bag I bet I could have broke the under 3/4" barrier with no problem. I was getting some flyers at first until I took the strain off the stock by using the rifle rest adjustments to get the scope cross hairs right on target as opposed to my pul,ling it up too tight. My bad. I was flexing the stock trying to pull it on target. With just myfront bag and bunny rear there would have been less torque on the rifle period and it would have probably tightened up even more. I have prettier rifles in my battery but it is right up there accuracy wise with my best shooting model 70 308.

@kamml - "The 243 synthetic Patriot I have is an under 1" rifle at 100yds with Hornaday Superperformance 95gr ammo."

Which version of the Hornandy Superperformance 95gr ammo? SST Bullets or GMX?

I bought my daughter her first hunting rifle, a Mossberg Super Bantum Patriot in 243 and am having trouble getting a good pattern with the Winchester Deer Season XP Centerfire Rifle Ammo 95gr ammo. I have shot 40 rounds through it and it can not keep a consist pattern. Joking aside (har har har), I am positive it isn't the shooter. I can usually key hole most shots at 100yds for the reloads that I do for my 270's and 222 rifles but this 243 just doesn't like the Winchester ammo.

Any help you folks can provide to assist me with getting this rifle ready for her early youth season here in Texas would be much appreciated!

 

[Win94_32]

Mossberg Patriot 30-06

Wanted to buy a new rifle did a lot of research really wanted the Savage Axis II heard nothing but good reviews the rifle was accurate and reliable. I narrowed my final picks to Ruger, Remington 700,770,783, Savage Axis I and Axis II. Ruger felt great but didn't like the magazine also no scope or iron sights. Remington 700 great rifle felt good really liked it until noticed no magazine this was a deal breaker for me. Looked at Remington 770 the bolt had to be level when bringing it forward just felt cheap and dealer wasn't giving me any feed back and seemed a little reluctant showing me the rifle. Remington 783 didn't have a chance to see it but when looking at reviews and a lot of complaints about Remington lowering their quality to compete with budget rifles and cutting the wrong corners. Really come to the conclusion Remington wasn't what I wanted unless it was an older rifle. Savage Axis bolt felt good safety is great but trigger really needed to be the accu-trigger. The magazine also had to be inserted at an angle back to front. The stock felt flimsy and cheap and it's the same stock for Axis II. Decided to go back to Ruger stock felt good pulled up nicely trigger good still no scope and was on a budget of only $400. Then I saw the Pariot asked to see it recessed crown check, flutted barrel check, Weaver base with scope check, flutted bolt and smooth action check, magazine easy insert check, LBA trigger check and stock felt good and solid. Without doing really any research I bought it. Sighting it in took about 8 shots with store ammo and it shoots great. Very happy with it but still has a few flaws when safety is on bolt still can be racked back which isn't all bad meaning you can clear chamber with safety on. Bolt is sloppy for long action when positioned to the rear but tracks good bringing forward. Stock has a crossed style bedding in sythetic but has a free floating barrel. There is a few more things but for $350.00 think I might of gotten the best bang for the buck.

 

[Olympus]

The walnut stocked Patriot is a classy looking little rifle. I've never shot one, but they are a good looking rifle for a great price. I'm just not big on synthetic stocks.

 

[Win94_32]

Agree wood stocks are classier but was on a budget wasn't looking for used rifle. Maybe my next rifle will be wood stock.

 

[epwrangler]

Tighten up every thing.

 

[Captcurt]

Heads Up.

Got to play with a couple of walnut Patriots. My only gripe is the sloppy bolt. There is so much play in the bolt when it is fully to the rear that it can hit the comb of the stock. This is in the long action guns. I think the short actions would be fine. I will let you know after I get my hands on a 243.

Didn't have time to work up a load for a 270, but my old standby load shot 3 shot groups around 1 1/4" without tweeking.

 

[epwrangler]

My 308 does not hit the comb. Nice shooting gun.

 

[Newtosavage]

A few months ago, I was shopping for a .308 bolt action, and had up to $1K to spend on it. I handled everything from the Axis and Mossberg up to a Browning and just about everything in between. Ruger American, 77, Rem. 7 and 700, Tikka, Howa, Winchester... Probably a few more I'm forgetting.

For my money, the Savage model 11 was the winner. And I am so glad I chose it. It is super accurate without a lot of fuss, and the versatility of the Savage system is unmatched. Want a different bolt handle? No problem. Just unscrew the bolt cap with an allen wrench and install it. Different stocks? Again, no problem. Everything from Accustocks to lightweight plastic to wood to fiberglass to kevlar available. Want a great trigger? The Accutrigger is easily adjustable and will flat out spoil you.

If you even decide later to switch calibers, and are somewhat handy with tools, you can do that too. Try that with any other gun.

I know I sound like a Savage commercial, but honestly I had no loyalty to any brand when I started shopping. If anything, I was partial to Winchester but that's about it.

When you start to use the rifle and shoot for groups and customize it to fit your needs, I really don't think any other gun can hang with the Savage 10+/110+ series. The 700's can be customized, but not as easily and they aren't as accurate out of the box. The only one I'd put in the same category as far as value might be the Ruger American. It's super accurate out of the box and has some nice aftermarket stocks available for it now.

Anyway, that's my own experience. I handled the Mossberg Patriot and although it looks like a great deal from 20 feet away, in my hands I was not really impressed.

 

[RunninLate]

Newtosavage, I do not know about the Model 11 but for what I do with a rifle, the Savage Axes II does it well. I will put a Boyd Stock on it one day. I think the trigger is as good as anyone out of the box.

I am not a true bolt action shooter like a lot of members and the Savage shots better that I can shoot.

 

[CptnAwesome]

From what I've read savage has some of the best shooting rifles out there. Never considered savage,,, or Mossberg for that matter. I've always been a big fan of ruger and remington bolt guns. I read plenty of reviews and handled the patriot, I was sold, and I don't regret it a bit. Savage model 11 is next on the list. maybe 308 or 7mm-08

 

[montanaoffroader]

My brother-in-law bought a Mossberg Patriot in .243, one with a synthetic stock. When we took it to the range, it was shooting all over the place.

I started checking screws, and the following were loose: Action screws, the screws that hold the ring halves together, ring to base screws, base to receiver screws. Basically every screw on the rifle was loose, I mean really loose.

Once I tightened all of them properly, we were able to zero it pretty quickly. He was shooting 1.5" groups with factory ammo, and he's not that great of a shot. We were using a rest which undoubtedly helped.

The Savage Axis that he owned previously was more difficult for him to shoot, mainly because of the heavier trigger and the poor eye relief on the cheap package gun scope.

 

[t.curotto]

2016 Mossberg patriot Walnut Stock .270

The best thing you can do with the patriot is glass bed the action.The recoil lug area has a sort of double sided tape as a shim in front of the lug. Remove and bed lug and through to tang area. Cheap and easy! Rifle will shoot great. Of course check screws out of the box and locktite them, as all rifles should be.

 

[nrussellmn85]

I have two patriots to mix in with a few other rifles. One laminate and one walnut. I've had no problems with them... they group well enough and look nice! And so I think they are an excellent rifle for someone on a budget, or someone wanting another rifle they don't really need... . I think the two best mentioned observations boil down to which Patriot chamber you select in terms of the length of the action and overall recoil. The bolt is a little sloppy when fully extended. I have two short actions and it is not really an issue, but I could see this being an issue in longer actions. And if you have anything around 30-06 or above (or shoot all the time) you might want to consider getting the action glass bedded.

 

[EIB0879]

I bought a Mossberg 4x4 after they came out with the Patriot and discontinued the 4x4. I got a walnut stocked 30-06 for $292 through Grabagun. Took the Weaver bases off and put a one piece DNZ mount in it's place. Topped it off with a Meopro 3.5-10x 44 mm scope. Shoots nice little triangle three shot groups under 1 inch at 100 yards.

 

[Shawn.54]

I just wanted to chime in on the subject of Mossberg Patriot accuracy because I'm one of the few who has one in .375 Ruger it is in synthetic stock and marinecote finish.
I was trying to keep keep costs down so I originally wanted blued barrel but as I searched for one in .375 I found nothing for 6-8 months then the marinecote model became available and I jumped on it.

To make a long story short in the 4 months I've owned it I have found and fixed a couple of small problems.

1. Rifle weight was light for cartridge at 6.9 pounds it was a bear to hold on to. I added weight to stock and a scope. Now weighs 9+.

2. Factory recoil pad was not that great
it has a plastic rib in the center which the 375 will point out to you really quick I replaced it with a Limbsaver slip on which resolved that problem.

3. Was a problem of my making I decided to use a set of cheap scope rings and within 10 shots I destroyed rings and bases again this was my fault. Replaced the rings/bases with Talley light weight base ringe and problem solved.

Then after sight in fired 4 rounds to check group all inside 1". After making adjustments to load and scope I fired another group of 3 all 3 shots will fit under a dime.

In summary if you want a rifle to take into rough country and not worry about bumps and scratches this is a great rifle and the fact that I'm getting sub moa out of a elephant gun is just a bonus. If anyone else has the 375 I would love to hear for them.
Shawn
The target on top is the first 4 shot group.

 

[cdb1]

I prefer the Patriot over the Axis, RAR and Remington 783. It would be a hard choice between a Patriot and a 700 ADL. I like blind magazines though.

 

[Andy cagle]

Mossberg Patriot 243

The 243 synthetic Patriot I have is an under 1" rifle at 100yds with Hornaday Superperformance 95gr ammo. I am very pleased. I shot from my rifle rest to sight in the scope too. If I had my bunny ear and front bag I bet I could have broke the under 3/4" barrier with no problem. I was getting some flyers at first until I took the strain off the stock by using the rifle rest adjustments to get the scope cross hairs right on target as opposed to my pul,ling it up too tight. My bad. I was flexing the stock trying to pull it on target. With just myfront bag and bunny rear there would have been less torque on the rifle period and it would have probably tightened up even more. I have prettier rifles in my battery but it is right up there accuracy wise with my best shooting model 70 308.

Federal fushion 95 grain..is what mine likes ..i own two in 243 ..one loves the deerseason xp ..the other one slung it ..it liked the fushion better ..both under 1/2 in group...