Most Accurate .22 ammo

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well, remington thunderbolts are what my anchutz shoots most accurately so far... when they actually fire :) My mossberg hates the remingtons though, so I guess I have to keep shopping for something a little more reliable.
 
i'm not meaning to discredit the ammo or the shooters but 25 yards doesn't really prove much

The ultimate in accuracy at 25 yards (or any distance) is to fire 10 rounds and find only one hole in the paper. I haven't seen that done. In my opinion, the ammo that gets me closest to that achievement, is the most 'accurate' in my rifle.

Probably the only way to settle this for once and for all would be to place the rifle in a vise and fire a box of each ammo at each of the three distances: 25, 50 and 100 yards and see which ammo has the smallest groups consistently.
I suspect the one that does well at 25 will also be good for 100.
 
There's more to it than simply which brand is best. The specific lot you buy and shoot can vary about as much as your gun.

Bob Collins is an Eley dealer. The link is to an article he wrote a few years ago on how to decipher the Eley lot numbers and comments on one machine vs. another, speed, crimp, air density, etc. Benchrest shooters buy different ammo lots to try in order to identify the lot or lots that work the best for them.

www.benchrest.com/csaccuracy/eleybythenumbers.html

For instance...

"The fps is printed under, example 1055 fps.� This fps on the label is an average of 50 shots from one of the six test guns at the Eley factory; these guns have 26 inch barrels with the chronograph three feet in front of the barrel.� There are 4 different machines that load Eley Ultimate and Match EPS.� I have found that these machines are very specific to which gunsmith chambers and fine-tunes your rifle.� Depending on barrel twist, length, and the gunsmith who put the gun together, you will find at least three Lots of ammo that will shoot under different conditions without turning the tuner.�

Each machine has subtle differences, so that different machine Lots of Ultimate can chamber and give the best accuracy.� One Lot of ammo will not shoot well in every gun.� Bill Calfee and James Messer guns seem to shoot best with the number 3 and 4 machine, Tim McWhorter�s (including all the Suhl�s he has set up) shoot the 3 machine, some 4.� Marshall Beam, Larry Shellhouse, and Lamon Logins use the 3 machine but will also shoot the 4 machines.� Bill Myers uses the 2 and 3 machines.� Most factory Anschutz use the 1 machine and Winchester 52�s seem to like the 3 or 4 machine.� All of this can change by the way the individual shooter holds the gun.�

One of Mr. Jim Cannington�s guns will shoot the 3 machine in free recoil but likes the 2 machine if it�s held.� Wayne Smith is the best at finding out what a gun likes to shoot and fine tuning, he was the one that found out about Mr. Jim�s gun preference.�

One curious thing almost all guns will shoot the 2 machine when the wind is blowing hard, better than when it not blowing.� "
 
If you don't shoot competitively, I personally think there is little reason to spend the money for the "best". I'm pretty satisfied if I can shoot edge to edge groups in the 0.4" range at 50 yds and that doesn't take spending $15/box for ammo. I have tried the really high grade stuff. I just am not there yet in terms of need.

Every 22 rifle will shoot differently with different ammo. There will be some variance between lots as well with the same ammo. You just have to test shoot the stuff and see what the rifle prefers. Then you need to decide if you are willing to pay double or triple (or more) the price for 0.1" to 0.2" improvement at 50 yds in better precision from the ammo you choose. It is enough for me to know that a rifle is capable of that kind of accuracy when I shoot it.

Yeah, I know it's fun to have a rifle that will shoot 0.2" groups at 50 yds. That's only on a good day too.
 
also try centrion .22 ammo shot a brick and enjoyed great accuracy and not failures to fire or FTE.....
 
also try centrion
Saw it in the local shop...but it looked too much like the crazy shotgun rounds (buck & ball, chain, flechette, dragons-breath, et al) so I didn't pick it up...will have to try it next time I go in. :)
 
I can do bullseyes at a 99 percent rate for a half a hour straight with a scoped 22 rifle if it's set up right. And that's using remington thunderbolts. That's cheap ammo. I have a ruger 10/22 now that I customized some. But it's not set up good enough to do bulleyes all day at 25 yards. I do have a scope on it though. I was using a pistol target.
 
You need a smaller bull at 50 yards to make it a little more interesting.

Try the IR 50/50 benchrest target. That little dot in the center is teeny.

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You need a smaller bull at 50 yards to make it a little more interesting.

Try the IR 50/50 benchrest target. That little dot in the center is teeny.

For those that have not tried this target it is one experience that will make you humble. You do not get even a decent score on this target with cheap ammo and an average .22 rifle. It's an expensive game both in guns & scope & ammo but one that can be tried if you so desire with any .22.

I can do bullseyes at a 99 percent rate for a half a hour straight with a scoped 22 rifle if it's set up right. And that's using remington thunderbolts. That's cheap ammo.

Maybe we need a thread on shooting the IR 50/50 with Remington Thunderbolts. It might be interesting to see the results ...................................
 
Centurion, I believe, is also in Eley's stable, or at least made to their specs, or on their machines, in Mexico.

For the Lobo9er dude; my pic above shows 2 -100 yd groups....
 
I doubt that I would pay more than $3.00 a box for rimfire 22LR to shoot. There are many good rimfire ammo brands to chose from. The only competition that I shoot against, is myself. I have shot at least 30+ brands and types of 22lr to find out what my rifles like best from the selection.
Sometimes the cheapest ammo will shoot as well as ammo costing 10 times more, it all depends on the rifle itself.

I have three 22RF rifles that I have done the testing on to see what they like. My Rem 541-T HB liked PMC Moderator ammo, my Marlin 101 single shot liked Winchester T-22 and my Marlin 60 SS seems to like hi-speed ammo like CCI mini-mag but isn't as accurate as the 541 or the singleshot.
I've recently bought some versions of Aguila ammo to check because they do offer Eley priming and deserve to be tested. I just haven't got around to doing that yet.


NCsmitty
 
best .22 ammo

I own a old Marlin .22 with scope, I've had VERY good luck with CCI.
I can't miss that center ring no matter how bad a day I'm having.
 
cci mini mag or stingers, i've used both for small game and the stinger can surely do some damage.
 
"well, remington thunderbolts are what my anchutz shoots most accurately so far..."

You must not shoot much. Or what you consider accurate is different than the rest of the world.
 
"Maybe we need a thread on shooting the IR 50/50 with Remington Thunderbolts. It might be interesting to see the results"

I would like to see that also.

I don't care what anyone says you can not shoot good groups and scores at 50 yards with ANY .22 rimfire rifle with ammo that has such a HUGE variation in power charges.
 
"I suspect the one that does well at 25 will also be good for 100."

Sorry wrong there.

Ammo with huge variations in powder charges can still shoot well at 25 yards but be all over the paper at 100.
 
"I suspect the one that does well at 25 will also be good for 100."

Sorry wrong there.

Ammo with huge variations in powder charges can still shoot well at 25 yards but be all over the paper at 100.

No, sir, you are incorrect, I'm afraid, and the person you quote is exactly right. Whatever error there is 25, is simply magnified four times at 100 (plus a little MORE error due to wind and possibly shooter error). Whatever shoots best at 25 WILL ALWAYS shoot best at 100, and whatever shoots worst at 25 will always shoot worst at 100. There's no way to make a bullet change directions, and suddenly all converge back toward the center after passing the 25 yard mark.

Basic physics. Inconsistent charge makes bullet START left/right/up/down, it will continue to just go in that same left/right/up/down vector continually until it hits the target or the ground - it doesn't change up its vector from the shot after 25 yards and come back to the bullseye.

Ammo with huge variations in powder charges can still shoot well at 25 yards

No, that ammo won't shoot "WELL" at 25 yards - inconsistent ammo such as you describe does NOT do that; consistent ammo DOES do that. The only way your statement is true is if you define "well" in a nonsensical non-accepted manner, such as "in my book, 2 inch groups = 'well' ", when that's really NOT well at all, in the grand scheme of things at that distance. "Well" is basically one hole at 25 yards.


And, even if your statement was true, based on a very lax definition of "well", and you're defining "well" as 2" groups at 25, then yes, you'll indeed be "all over the paper" at 100 - but guess what - the ammo that does NOT "shoot well" under your definition of well will still be yet even far WORSE than just merely "all over the paper" at 100, and be bested by that ammo that shoots "all over the paper".

You CAN get an accurate judge of a rifle/shooter/ammo's accuracy at 25 yards - the only time you need to go past that is if everyone has the exact same group size, which just ain't gonna happen, even at serious competition - group sizes and absolute scores WILL vary, and some will win and some will lose. That might happen at 5 or 10 yards, where everyone ties for 1st place - but it won't at 25.

Now having said that, you do need calipers to determine this at 25 if you're talking serious competition, whereas you can probably figure out with your eyeballs rather than calipers who has the best group at 50 yards.


Now Mythbuster, for my final quote from you:

I don't care what anyone says you can not shoot good groups and scores at 50 yards with ANY .22 rimfire rifle with ammo that has such a HUGE variation in power charges.

You hit the nail on the head there; you are 100% right about that! :)

By the way, everyone is right about it depends on you gun and what it likes. And I have little doubt that some flavor of Eley is the best on average across the board in many rifles - best on an absolute scale. But in terms of *value*, best for the money across the board, I have to give the prize to "Wolf Match Target" - great stuff, Maynard, in several of my rifles - cannot believe no one has mentioned it yet.

And for whoever said that they think they'd have to be rich to shoot Eley match stuff, are you kidding me? It's STILL cheaper than the cheapest centerfire, even if reloading! I guess whoever says that never shoots any centerfires for accuracy, let alone shoots centerfires for fun/plinking.
 
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No, sir, you are incorrect, I'm afraid, and the person you quote is exactly right. Whatever error there is 25, is simply magnified four times at 100 (plus a little MORE error due to wind and possibly shooter error). Whatever shoots best at 25 WILL ALWAYS shoot best at 100, and whatever shoots worst at 25 will always shoot worst at 100. There's no way to make a bullet change directions, and suddenly all converge back toward the center after passing the 25 yard mark.

Yep, physics trumps personal opinions every day of the week.
 
mythbuster,
I never said it was accurate, I said it shot most accurately so far (still poorly)which means I haven't tried much else yet and with me behind the trigger. My grandfather used some other stuff (I don't know what it was, I think it started with an A, but I'm not sure) when he was shooting match. He was the target shooter of us all. I don't know which he was more accurate with, his Win 52D or his anchutz. He would keep 1-2 inches at 100y on an outside range from the prone with peep sights. I would be lucky to do that with the same gun from a rest. He was competitive, but not dominant in his competitions.
 
i dont waste my money on 22lr that is 10 dollars for 50. i buy 550 pack federal and i can shoot 1/2 inch groups still for 15 bucks
 
Generally you are most likely looking at RWS, Lapua or Eley as the "best" If you look at pricing, the stuff that currently sells for $15-$17/50 rounds has a high likelihood of shooting the best in a good rifle.

And for whoever said that they think they'd have to be rich to shoot Eley match stuff, are you kidding me? It's STILL cheaper than the cheapest centerfire, even if reloading! I guess whoever says that never shoots any centerfires for accuracy, let alone shoots centerfires for fun/plinking.

This is true. But I find it hard to afford shooting $50-$100 worth of ammunition in an outing regardless if it is rimfire or centerfire. You might guess that I don't shoot much centerfire ammo and you're right. I do shoot it and I have quite a bit cached away, but I'm frugal about using up my reserves. Right now I'm practicing for deer season however with a handgun. That takes some ammo.
 
No sir you are incorrect. There most certainly is a way to make ammo change directions in flight.
The Doc. was referring to the MOA/mil angular difference...which will remain a constant at any distance, as long as other factors are not influencing the trajectory (such as an obstacle, or the trans-sonic region as the round goes sub-sonic). :)
 
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