Most accurate .22 ... revolver or auto??

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Grndslm, if you want the .22 to work on your grip and skills then get one. But for carry and defense you'll be wanting something else as well. And if is the case then I'd suggest your .22 and 9mm or .357 both be of the same type so the lessons from the .22 will carry over to the center fire gun.

There's no need to spend stupid amounts of money either. For semi a S&W 22A and a 9mm of some sort would be a nice pair to work with. The S&W22A is relatively inexpensive but a nice shooting and reliable gun. Best of all it shares a grip angle and feel with many of the 9mm options. Another good .22 would be the Ruger 22/45 because again it shares the same grip angle as most 9mm or other semi auto pistols.

For revolver a Taurus 94 would be a nice companion to a S&W or Ruger .357 with a 4 inch barrel. I specify the 4 inch barrel since you're obviously having some problems with your grip and sight picture. A 4 inch barrel will still carry fairly easily but the longer barrel will allow an easier to acquire and hold sight picture.

But really if you're having this sort of trouble the best investment would be to buy some training time from one of your area's well know and respected training schools. They'll work you through the issues that you can't seem to solve yourself. Also if you had not shot before and found that you gave up after only 200 rounds then you did yourself and the pistol a disservice. It wasn't the gun and you're being unfair to both it and yourself. 200 rounds is nothing in the shooting hobby.
 
Crap... I just had out this super lengthy reply, but I was auto logged out and lost it. Ugghh...

Anyway, for starters. I know that it wasn't me that was causing the Sigma to fire all over the map. There were 3 other people besides me trying to hit a dorm room fridge not even 15 yards away, and we could only hit it once outta 15 rounds. It was pathetic. Perhaps 200 rounds wasn't enough, but I didn't want to waste more time/money on something THAT wild. I realize that everything has a break-in period... but the results I was seeing for the first 200 rounds were not consistent by any means, and that it a HUGE problem for a firearm.

A friend offered me $300 cash for the Sigma, which is what I paid for it new, so I had to take it and upgrade to ANYTHING else.

There's no sense in telling me that a 9mm, .40, .45, or .357 cal would be best for EDC and/or self-defense. The reason being that I cannot purchase ANY of that ammo within a 2 hour radius of me. I found one box of .40 cal ammunition at one store, but that was it. I couldn't even find the 9mm for my old Sigma!!! What good is a gun if you can't buy ammo for it readily? If I can't even practice with the gun, I'll surely die in a real world situation when I'm afraid to shoot any of my .40 cals for fear of not being able to replace them.

I'm liking that 4.5" Beretta U22 Neos. Looks like a winner.
 
You need a Ruger MK II or III or a Buckmark, which ever feels better in your hand. Both are reasonably priced and great shooters. Both will last a lifetime my Ruger Standard was my first gun, its still got hundreds of thousands of rounds through it and still goin strong. I prefer the 6" tapered barrel but that's me. I also bought a MKII and had it canned.
Just remember crackedbutt's sig line" A .22 to the head from across the street will surely ruin your day"

Shot placement is critical when using a .22, never saw anyone take 10 rds of .22 to the head get up and walk away from it! I have seen one shot drop from a NAA .22 mini to the heart.
 
What good is a gun that you can't buy ammo for.... nothing.

If that is the case and there's a decent supply of .22 available then you're doing the right thing.

Either way I would strongly suggest you get something with a more ".45" like grip angle just because eventually that'll be what you move to or add to the collection. If not a Ruger 22/45 then the S&W 22A. Unfortunetly the Neos, while a nice gun from all I've read, does not fit the idea of the grip angle for the future issue. How much you want to worry about this is up to you. It doesn't bother me but then I jump around between a 1911, a CZ SP01, S&W revolvers and a couple of cheap chinese Tokarev knockoffs. But for me this is all for fun since we aren't allowed to carry and it's darn near worth our freedom to use a gun to defend ourselves up this way even if it's our own home. How much you want to worry about this grip angle thing is up to you.

Or if you should come across a S&W 422 don't be afraid to buy used. My own 422 is a far more accurate shooting gun than its owner and it's a nice basic gun to work on for cleaning up. It LOVES CCI Blazer and other higher velocity rounds. Best of all despite the fact that .22 ammo is generally far more dirty than center fire ammo it seems to only require a good cleaning about every 600 to 700 rounds. I recently shot a speed steel event where I went through most of a box of 333 rounds of bulk Winchester without a single failure of any sort for the day. And it wasn't newly cleaned when I started.
 
Anyway, for starters. I know that it wasn't me that was causing the Sigma to fire all over the map. There were 3 other people besides me trying to hit a dorm room fridge not even 15 yards away, and we could only hit it once outta 15 rounds. It was pathetic.
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Are any of you experienced shooters? I can't imagine the gun wasn't capable of shooting into a 32" square at 45 feet.

I like my Ruger 22/45 for plinking. It has a 4" bull barrel and I can chew the middle out of a 3" bullseye at 10 yards.
 
The 22 is a good chose for a starter (most people can't have just one gun). Not only is ammo available for him but the 22 is more forgiving and a good way to learn trigger control and proper shooting techniques with out the expense and recoil of a larger gun. Also a fun gun to shoot just for fun. People do not give the 22 enough respect. Good luck : Bill
 
Anyway, for starters. I know that it wasn't me that was causing the Sigma to fire all over the map. There were 3 other people besides me trying to hit a dorm room fridge not even 15 yards away, and we could only hit it once outta 15 rounds. It was pathetic. Perhaps 200 rounds wasn't enough, but I didn't want to waste more time/money on something THAT wild. I realize that everything has a break-in period... but the results I was seeing for the first 200 rounds were not consistent by any means, and that it a HUGE problem for a firearm.
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Are any of you experienced shooters? I can't imagine the gun wasn't capable of shooting into a 32" square at 45 feet.
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More importantly, were any of those people experienced revolver shooters, who practice in DA more than they do in SA, and don't have light "tuned" triggers?

Controllably pulling a 12-13 pound trigger over 1/2" of travel is tough. It takes weeks to months of good dry fire practice.
 
From everything I've read, the Sigma is generally thought of as being junk so what you are saying doesn't surprise me. I've got a friend who bought a new one in .40 cal ,shot a box thru it and offered it to me for $225. He said it's terrible. I'm going to pass on it.
For a medium priced .22, I highly recommend the Ruger MK ll in the 5.5" bull barrel or an S&W K-22.
 
I'm not sure if anybody who'd shot the gun was an experienced DA revolver shooter. Maybe one guy, who had the Glock 45 with 22 conversion and a Ruger pistol. Both of those guns were extremely accurate for me.

Let me go over some differences I found between the Glock .45 and Sigma 9mm:

The Glock had less recoil and was noticeably quieter. The plastic magazine didn't slide back and forth, like the stainless mag in the Sigma was doing. The Sigma grip was better, but the Glock's weight seemed to have been better distributed. The only HUGE plus in favor of the Sigma was the stainless slide with three white dots; this was the only gun that we were able to shoot as the sun was going down, and it's such a huge plus that I think all of my handguns will be of the stainless / nickel variety... or at least have some white dots. The Sigma also didn't jamb, but it was brand new versus a dirty Glock that would stovepipe nearly once per reload of the mag.

The Glock was dead on accurate when it would fire, most likely due to the lighter trigger pull. We actually couldn't hit our stationary skeet targets at first because everybody was relying on the laser. I finally turned it off and used the sights and I hit the skeet or pieces of the skeet about 9 outta 10 times. I do not understand how I could pull the Sigma's trigger back nearly all the way, pause, aim at the same spot I aimed last time, finally pull that last little bit of the trigger to fire... and I wouldn't even come close to what I was aiming at. No joke.. the gun was no more accurate while pausing 20 seconds between shots than it was to rapid fire all 15 rounds in 10 seconds. People even joked with me online before I'd actually shot the Sigma... "If you need all 15 rounds to hit your target, you don't need a gun." They weren't exaggerating.

Anyway... this is frustrating. The "best" .22 auto seems to be something like the S&W 41, but it's about $1,000 if I can even find it. The Beretta U22 Neos is hard to find with the silver slide, and the grip's angle makes the gun look like an alien firearm.

Perhaps I don't need the most accurate .22, but just any .22 that is more accurate than the Sigma. I don't think it'd be possible to find a gun that is less likely to hit its target than the Sigma. The Walther P22 isn't accurate and it probly jambs quite often. I wonder how the Taurus PT-22 is for accuracy...

I'm starting to think my next handgun purchase will be a snub-nosed .22 DA revolver. This should solve the problem of unreliable rimfire ammo, but I'm not so sure how the accuracy on snub-nosed revolvers are.
 
I would get a M41. (or a Ruger or a Buckmark or a High Standard)

Here is one for $850 http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=374044

You can find even less expensive with a little more searching I am sure.

On the Bullseye lines, S&W M41 are very common. (As are Pardinis and Hammerlis) All others much less so.

All of the above you will get a decent barrel length (4.5" is a bit too short to be considered accurate target quality)

Here is one for $500 (sold unfortunately a couple of weeks ago) but shows that great deals can be had: http://ee.ar15.com/ItemView.aspx?iid=15761
 
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