Motorcycle carry

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I'm planning on doing some IDPA matches this summer and also just got a new bike. This is the bike....:D :D :D :D :D I think I can get 200 to 300rounds into the tail section which should be enough for the average match and once i get a magnetic tank bag I'll put the pistol and other sundries in it. That should keep me legal because the weapon and ammo will be seperated. Should make the 100 mile commute to the range much more fun than driving there.:evil: I love the thought of being able to combine two of my passions.
 

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I have that same bike but mine is a 2005. They get very hot in the tail section due to high exhaust temps from the dual pipes. I would recomend carrying any and all amunition in a tank bag or back pack. Hate to get shot in the arse by a round cooking off while riding. :eek:
 
Now you have to find a sport that allows you to shoot while riding, something along the lines of cowboy action on horses.

The person who could do both at the same time at speed would be pretty amazing.
 
First guns and now motorcycles. Whats next rock n roll:D
You've more than likely found out by now how torquey the RC51 is haven't you:evil: Seems to me a year or two back a slightly modified RC51 really broke some speed limits (open rode away from towns) in Minnesota or Wisconsin.
So with your bike being a Japanese bike is your pistol a Nambu:neener:
 
Now you have to find a sport that allows you to shoot while riding, something along the lines of cowboy action on horses.

The person who could do both at the same time at speed would be pretty amazing.

James Bond, Ethan Hunt, and the Terminator had no trouble doing it.
 
Jeff Cooper posted a pretty good article about motorcycle riding and shooting. It is no longer available at the old link I had does anyone have it?
 
MN speeding ticket on RC51

That incident happened about 10 miles up the road from my house, during a motorcycle event called the "Flood Run". The road is four lane state highway, HWY 61, and runs along the Mississippi River. While a decent road, it has woods, bluffs and the like running fairly close, lots of critters wandering across the road, does not have great visibility, and is not exactly where I would choose to go really fast - especially on a day when they bus in overtime LEO to supervise a motorcycle event. :rolleyes:

On September 19, 2004, Minnesota motorcyclist Samuel Armstrong Tilley set what is believed to be a world record for speeding on public roads. No doubt people have gone faster on public roads, but Tilley had the misfortune to do so without noticing the police plane above him, and was officially clocked at 205.11mph by a handheld stopwatch. The ticket made news around the world, with many people proclaiming the speeding ticket must have been a mistake as motorcycles simply don't go that fast.
Tilley topped the previous highest known speed recorded in a traffic infringement, set by New Yorker Dr. William Faenza in a 1997 Lamborghini Diablo at 182 mph in a 55 mph zone.
Tilley's bike was a 2003 Honda RC51 motorcycle which the highway patrolman who pulled him over has gone on record as stating was "highly modified."
Tilley claimed the bike only had a set of aftermarket mufflers fitted. In standard form, the bike makes 128 bhp and if the bike had only had exhaust mods, it would certainly not be putting out any more than 135bhp and would struggle to reach 160mph.
One possibility is that the pilot got it all horribly wrong and pressed the stopwatch at the wrong time. Apparently the pilot managed to clock both Tilley and his accompanying friend (booked for 111mph on an MV Agusta F4i) at the same time, using two stopwatches - while flying a plane. This suggests that error is one distinct possibility.
Now Tilley claims his bike is not capable of more than 145-150 mph. Yet the pilot timed Tilley over a quarter mile at 4.39 seconds, giving him the speed of 205.11 mph.
Had Tilley been doing say 145 mph (what he claims is top speed of his motorcycle), the stopwatch should have stopped at 6.2 seconds, so there's a discrepancy of nearly two seconds between the two times - 4.39 against 6.2 seconds.
Tilley's ticket has been posted on the web, as has the previous speeding record by Faenza.


Ride safe! :)
 
Not as good but still good

Motorcycle Firearms

By Christopher Lee

With the growing popularity of personal firearms carry among motorcyclists, it's important to find the weapon that best meets our rather specific self defense needs. On occasion, a drunk driver or a car driver experiencing road rage will purposefully ram a motorcycle, which never works out well for the motorcyclist.

Use your superior agility and acceleration to evade the car if you can. However, because the driver is attacking the motorcyclist with a deadly weapon (the car), the motorcyclist is legally entitled to defend him or her self with lethal force, probably a firearm. Will you ever be in this situation? Let's hope not. But should you be, here are some suggestions that might just keep you alive:

1- When selecting a firearm for motorcycle carry, opt for one that has a ported barrel, especially if your choice is a lightweight gun in a magnum caliber. Ported barrels are a relatively new technology, and they significantly reduce the recoil of the firearm. That means that when you are firing from a moving motorcycle, the shot will be less likely to disrupt your balance.

2- Additionally, choose a high velocity medium bore cartridge (.357 Magnum, .38 Super, .357 Sig, or 9mm Luger+P). When you are firing at a moving vehicle, remember that the bullet must penetrate safety glass and still stay on target. .357/9mm high velocity or +P rounds are smaller in diameter than the big bore calibers, but pack a big punch; this translates into more penetration power. I use a Taurus Total Titanium Tracker, which is a very accurate seven shot .357 Magnum revolver.

3- For the same reason, keep relatively heavy weight (for example 158 grain in .357 Magnum) full metal jacket or jacketed soft point ammo in the firearm when on the road. Especially avoid hollow point bullets, which provide less penetration than standard cast lead bullets.

4- Practice firing the weapon from your motorcycle. For this, you need a large, privately owned, sparsely populated property area where you know ahead of time there will be no people wandering around. Start with dry fire practice. Pick a specific target (like a tree) as you are moving and track it, dry firing the gun 3-6 times at the target. Once you are comfortable taking your eyes off the road for the time it takes to fire 3-6 rounds, load the firearm and practice firing one round at a time at a paper target (so you can see where your bullets hit) in front of a safe backstop. Start with a smaller caliber if you have one available. (Another reason I like a .357 Magnum revolver is that you can use the same gun to fire the lighter .38 Special round.) Work your way up until you can empty all the chambers comfortably and accurately with full power ammunition.

5- If you decide to fire, FIRE AT THE DRIVER, NOT THE CAR. Obvious in retrospect, make sure you decide to fire at the driver before you engage to avoid time-consuming, and therefore dangerous, mistakes.

6- Once you hit the driver, get away from the car! The car could go ANYWHERE at that point, and the farther you move away from it, the less likely it is to accidentally hit you.

If you are ever in a situation where you are being attacked with lethal force on the road, it goes without saying that you should try to escape by any means possible that does not endanger your life or the life of innocent bystanders. Evade if you possibly can, resorting to lethal counter-force only as a last resort.

He never does explain how to shoot right handed while using the throttle. I guess if you have cruise control it can be done...
 
I ride a Suzuki Marauder VZ800V...

As metric cruisers go, it is pretty light...

I do NOT think I could carry it at all...

and WHAT a holster that would be...

Printing would be inevitable...

and it would likely be bad for your back...

I'd stick to carrying guns, and RIDING motorcycles!
 
Whatever you do, dont go 205 while armed, that would be armed in the process of committing a felony, prob a big time sentance:D . Nice bike.
 
An ankle holster would work, I would imagine. On the inside of the ankle, the wind force against your leg printing the pistol would be difficult to see by a vehicle on either side of you. The downside is you would probably not be able to reach it while in motion.
 
Bike Carry

I carry a keltec P3 when im feeling lazy inner waist or pocket. Wont carry in ankle holster since when riding pants tend to print gun or roll up and expose gun for view. When i have to ride in crappy places with history of trouble I carry in waistband a full size glock 22 in .40 with a laser:evil: I ride a 2006suzuki GSXR 1000:D
 
He never does explain how to shoot right handed while using the throttle. I guess if you have cruise control it can be done...

Here in California, i can't carry legally when i ride my '01 Dyna Low Rider, but if i did, my Kimber UCII would be in my LEFT jacket pocket where it fits real well. Hypothetically, of course..
 
Nice ride:cool:

My dad was a combat engineer during WW II and told us stories of riding around on a Harley with .30 cal MG mounted on it somehow. I've certainly seen rifle scabbards on military bikes, but never an MG, at least not without a sidecar. Dad wasn't a BSer, he earned a DSC at Anzio and a couple of Purple Hearts before he rotated home to be an istructor at Ft Belvoir . . . Still, a light MG on a bike has a lot of appeal, especially for dealing with beltway traffic, eh?

Stay safe, shiney side up.:D
 
If you do the kind of riding that bike was designed to do, do not carry on your body. I learned from experience that when on the body and body meets asphalt, anything hard against body crushes into body real deep and it hurts REAL bad. Keep all hardware in a bag and lock n load when you get off the bike. Not like you are going to be shooting on the roll anyway. Thats more dangerous than the threat. Oh and by the way I was on a Fat Harley going around 30.
 
Bones11b
I can't imagine the temps in the storage area getting much over 200 degrees but I suppose it could. Mostly I want to keep the heavy stuff as low as I can get it to keep the center of gravity low.

zedheadmc,
No so far I haven't had a chance to really play on it yet. I picked it up on Sat and it was raining pretty good a 70 mile ride in the rain kinda sucks if you're trying to find the limits of a new bike. Yesterday it started raining right as my sweetie and I were getting suited up and today it's been like 36 degrees. I suspect it ain't gonna hold a candle torque wise to my last bike (2001 Buell X1) but I get an extra 3500 rpm and the HP that goes with it. I am looking forward to getting it on my favorite county roads when it warms up a bit. So far it feels incredibly stiff chassiswise. No Japanese guns yet.
I have a Kimber Carry for CCW and a Springfield full size for plinking and IDPA.

Richmond,
Ain't no way Tilley hit 205 on one of these at least not with stock or common gearing.

"He never does explain how to shoot right handed while using the throttle. I guess if you have cruise control it can be done....

Good thing I'm a lefty.

I have to find a tank bag with internal adjustable straps and I think I will be good.
 
Gilroy,
I do ride aggressive while on the county roads so I wasn't planning on carrying on my person while riding.
 
He claims the top speed of the bike is only 145. Hope they believe him on that. I know for a fact it is higher. HP is 128 on the RC51. My CBR600RR is rated at 105 hp and has been clocked by all the motorcycle mags at 165 MPH. A modded RC51 could be expected to do at least 180MPH flat out. If not he got ripped off on the modifications he made.
 
I carry inside my coat, shoulder holster. I can't think of any place that would affect my riding technique LESS.

Having actually shot a Glock 17 (9mm) with my left hand while riding down a gravel road on my motorcycle, I can tell you, if you don't practice, you WILL miss your first few shots.:cuss:

I still havn't figured out a good way to shoot right handed and roll on the throttle. The best I can do is clutch in while drawing, then slip the clutch out a bit as I start to fire for gyroscopic stability.:neener:
 
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