Movie: Tombstone- What are they saying?

[Hardtarget]

Maybe that cross was a "come to Jesus" moment...when he pointed the gun at you.

I don't know...I've not seen the movie.

Mark

 

[Georgia Gunner]

I don't know what the cross meant but that last scene in 3:10 to yuma was one of the best of all time.

 

[BHP FAN]

Highmountain said:''So long as we are on the subject of western movies, what was the significance of the "cross" on Russel Crow's, Ben Wade's gun in 3:10 to Yuma? ''

maybe it was his cross to bear?

 

[PT1911]

wasnt it
"I'm your huckleberry"

and

"you're no DAISY... You're no daisy at all"?

 

[Flame Red]

I've never understood why so many RKBA supporters love the story of the Earps. It seems to me like they are some of the most famous proponents of gun control in the 1800's.

When a group of people flouted their unjust laws they were promptly killed by the thugs in authority.

+1000

 

[1911Tuner]

I've never understood why so many RKBA supporters love the story of the Earps. It seems to me like they are some of the most famous proponents of gun control in the 1800's.

While I agree in theory...the circumstances were a bit different in the cow towns, where liquor and gambling were "round the clock" realities. Mix likker and guns with people who generally "Jerked their smokewagons and went to work" to settle arguments over a hand of cards or a soiled dove...and you could literally have a gunfight every hour...just like the show at Ghost Town in Maggie Valley, NC...except the gunmen weren't actors and stunt men, and the ammunition was live. It could get out of hand pretty quickly and regularly did. Drunks are notoriously bad marksmen, and the danger of stray rounds finding innocent bystanders was a distinct possibility...not to mention property damage.

Couple that with the fact that a drunk cowpuncher was as likely to shoot a town marshall or a Sheriff merely for intervening in a heated discussion...and you can better understand their positions.

 

[winston smith]

The "Daisy" comment is easier. In the late 19th century "daisy" was a common slang term for "the best in it's class." So for "daisy" just substitute "the best" and you'll have it. It was a short-lived idiom and doesn't seem to be popular much after 1890.

As in "Its a Daisy!" -- how the air rifle got its name.

Found by Google:

Whilst questioning Moons, Charlie spots that Zeke is wearing Ben Wade's signature gun, the Hand of God, which can be identified by the symbol of Jesus impaled on the cross on the gun's handle. Sensing that this group has a history with Wade and the fact that Charlie isn't the kind of guy to politely ask for Wade's gun back, it is inevitable then that Charlie blows away the group, including Zeke with twin revolvers.

Also found by Google:

Russell Crowe wears the 4 3/4" Peacemaker Colt, referred to as, "The Hand of God", was made for Crowe by U.S. Fire Arms, and plays an important role in the plot.

 

[Joe Demko]

Couple that with the fact that a drunk cowpuncher was as likely to shoot a town marshall or a Sheriff merely for intervening in a heated discussion...and you can better understand their positions.

Everything I've read about the Earps (that was from any kind of reliable source) points towards them being more economic rivals with their enemies than towards them being heroic law n' order types. Wyatt Earp was savvy enough to polish his image in his lifetime and his woman really went to work on that after his death.
Clint Eastwood's "Unforgiven" gives a better picture of the typical dynamic at work in the old west than does "Tombstone."
Sure I understand the Earps and their gun-grabbing ways. They figured those guns were bad for business...like the gambling, liquor sales, and (I suspect) prostitutes in which they were involved.

 

[psyopspec]

I've never understood why so many RKBA supporters love the story of the Earps. It seems to me like they are some of the most famous proponents of gun control in the 1800's.

I like the story of the Earps because I like a good story; NOT because I find said story to be true (it largely isn't) or because I have a feeling either way on the Earp family.

 

[cottonmouth]

"Crawfish the bet and drill that old Devil in the ass"? I got the crawfish part and I assume he is refering shooting the Devil.......... I hope that's what he meant! LOL

J.B.

 

[Mr. Bojangles]

I still like the movie

 

[1911Tuner]

Everything I've read about the Earps (that was from any kind of reliable source) points towards them being more economic rivals with their enemies than towards them being heroic law n' order types.

Yup. No saints, the Earp boys.

They figured those guns were bad for business...like the gambling, liquor sales, and (I suspect) prostitutes in which they were involved.

Yup again...but they were also charged with keepin' the peace and stayin' alive in the process. Performing their lawful duties meant that their other...er...interests would thrive for the reasons cited above. I suspect that many of the saloonkeepers and brothel operators slipped them a percentage of the take under the table for answering the call whenever there was a fracas in one of their establishments. The Earps were probably engaged in an early protection racket. "Pay me, or I'll take my sweet time gettin' here when some hoorah decides to shoot the place up."

 

[Dimis]

i still love that movie my favorite quote is still the para-phrased quote from Revelations

"Tell em Im comin... And hells comin with me!"

and Val Kilmer really did steal the show as Doc Holliday