Your dealer wouldn’t have filled out that form since you bought receivers and not handguns.
Isn't a stripped AR15 lower receiver considered to be a pistol?
Your dealer wouldn’t have filled out that form since you bought receivers and not handguns.
No, it’s been around for quite a while, at least since 2012 when I started working at FFLs, but my guess is that it was around way before then.Is this something new?
It’s back-of-the-house paperwork that doesn’t involve the customer at all, which is why many don’t know about it.I bought 3 1911 pistols as presents for my kids. I didn't fill out anything other than the 4473's. Did the dealer have do it without my knowledge?
No. A lower receiver — even a built one complete with a pistol brace or a rifle stock pre-installed — is always just sold as a receiver on the 4473. That’s because it doesn’t meet the federal definition of either a pistol or a rifle (both of which require a barrel, among other things). Any dealer who marks “pistol” or “rifle” on the 4473 is wrong and somehow missed the open letter the ATF sent to all FFLs back in 2009.Isn't a stripped AR15 lower receiver considered to be a pistol?
Yes, it just started being a requirement in 1968.Is this something new?
Yes.Christmas, 2013 or 2014 (can't remember exactly) I bought 3 1911 pistols as presents for my kids. I didn't fill out anything other than the 4473's. Did the dealer have do it without my knowledge?
Never.Isn't a stripped AR15 lower receiver considered to be a pistol?
Why???
The purchaser isn't really affected in any meaningful way.
Nothing is preventing that, other than an annoyed FFL. As long as an FFL doesn’t transfer more than one handgun to a person within a 5 day period, that form doesn’t need to be fillled out.what's there to prevent someone like Laphroaig from purchasing three 1911' s, as he did, and having them all arrive at his FFL before Christmas, let's say on 01 Dec. The FFL holds all 3 and he completes the paperwork on 01 Dec to take home one, then returns a week later on 08 Dec and then a week later on 15 Dec and completes the FFL transfer. >5 days between purchases.
No federal law prohibits a buyer from structuring his transactions to avoid the dealer submitting the multiple sale form. But want to REALLY get on ATF's radar? You sure as heck will if during a compliance inspection the IOI notices that three handguns were received by the dealer on December 1st and the buyer chose to acquire them on a manner designed to avoid the multiple sale report. The buyer and dealer aren't violating any law, but nothing prevents that IOI from photographing the buyers three Form 4473's.....effectively recording the multiple sale that the buyer wanted to avoid. It raises questions that you may not want ATF guessing.Just curious, but what's there to prevent someone like Laphroaig from purchasing three 1911' s, as he did, and having them all arrive at his FFL before Christmas, let's say on 01 Dec. The FFL holds all 3 and he completes the paperwork on 01 Dec to take home one, then returns a week later on 08 Dec and then a week later on 15 Dec and completes the FFL transfer. >5 days between purchases. No additional forms required, whether known to the purchaser or not. Since many don't know about this additional form or, if they do, they might just want to avoid the inconvenience. But, would this be possible or is there legal background that disallows staggered and planned FFL transfers?
It means that the dealer isn't required to report the multiple sale. Quite a few folks don't like the feds knowing their business.Why???
The purchaser isn't really affected in any meaningful way.
This.Nothing is preventing that, other than an annoyed FFL. As long as an FFL doesn’t transfer more than one handgun to a person within a 5 day period, that form doesn’t need to be fillled out.