Muscle tremors. How to cope?

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Other than getting younger, is there an effective way to dispell muscle tremors at the range. As I'm passing middle age (assuming I'll make 90), I find my hands more and more often shake as I begin my trigger pull. Bifocals were a blessing, I shot better. Trembly hands make bigger groups. What do you folks do to cope?
 
I sometimes have this problem, but I'm a lot younger. I think mine may be due to adrenaline as when I first get to the range I'm kinda pumped up. :eek:

I find that if I use my .22LR pistol first (in my case a Kadet conversion to my CZ 75 compact) then I tend to relax and get warmed up. This seems to improve my shooting when I switch over to a real caliber and start practicing.

So, my suggestion would be to try a .22LR pistol to start your range session and hopefully your tremors will subside.
 
Been there

I am approaching 40 and have been fighting this for the past 6 years. I finally had enough and went to see my Doctor.

I had Carpel Tunnel Syndrome in a bad way and all of the denial for years just made it worse. I had the surgery on my off hand and I can not describe the improvement. The classic numbness of the digits was not present, which is why I dismissed the symptoms.

Took another cortisone shot yesterday in my shooting hand and will be doing that surgery in February. Easy procedure and well worth it if you are diagnosed with such an ailment.

my 2 pennies worth.
 
Give up cafine at least 3 days before shooting, control your blood pressure, get a good nights sleep and excercise regularly. I'm over 50 and have good and bad days depending upon how and what I eat and when I take my medications.
 
I'm 68.
Some days are just a wash out for trying to get groups.
Sunday I was shooting a Makarov at a hundred yards. After a few magazines I was missing too much so I gave up on shooting standing and shot sitting.

I've noticed that some guns just seem to punish the nerves, muscles, whatever, more than other guns and after a few rounds my hand will shake. It's not just recoil either, it seems to be how the gun kicks. If I'm going to shoot one of these I'll save it until last.

If I'm just plinking at 15-20 yards I'll shoot left handed the rest of the day.
Many times when my right hand isn't steady my left will be.
 
I'm young, but asthmatic enough that I often shoot with Albuterol in my system -- which makes me shake like a leaf, including severe tremors in my hands and arms. I've had to learn to shoot despite the shakes. And I've learned that it is quite possible to shoot a small group while shaking badly. The secret is in the trigger control.

You have to start by accepting the wobble. Don't try to fight it. Fighting against it makes the tremor worse, and also negatively affects your trigger control. You have to allow the shakes to happen and you have to decide not to snatch at the trigger during the brief moments when your sights are perfectly aligned. Snatching at the trigger will make your shots go wild and make your groups embarrassing.

To begin with, without shooting, hold your sights on target and simply observe the area covered by your sights as you shake. That area is your "wobble zone." Chances are that no matter how badly you are shaking, the wobble zone will actually cover less than two inches of actual target at 10 yards, perhaps considerably less. As long as your trigger pull is smooth, your shots will fall within that small wobble zone. If your shots go anywhere outside that small zone, it will be because of trigger control issues, not the result of your shake.

When you fire, concentrate on pulling the trigger back smoothly at the same speed throughout its entire stroke. Never try to grab the magic moment when the sights are "most perfectly" aligned; just pull the trigger smoothly while accepting the wobble zone for what it is. Try not to anticipate the moment the shot will fire.

After the shot has fired, when the trigger gets to its rearmost stopping point, continue to hold the trigger completely to the rear until your sights are lined back up. With the trigger in its rearmost position, count two full seconds, and only then slowly release the trigger. This exaggerated emphasis on follow through really helps avoid jerking shots downward.

HTH.

pax
 
Guys and Gals, what Pax wrote ^^^ is the GOSPEL truth and it doesn't matter a darn bit whether or not a health condition contributes to your inability to hold the sights dead solid on one spot or not!!!!! That is THE best single best description of target hold and trigger control combined that I have ever seen.

Well done Pax!!!
 
Shooting on Albuterol is a pain. Singulair doesn't seem near as bad.
Yoga and a six pack might help (JOKING! But thinking about the yoga)
Practicing a lot and giving up coffee and drinking the night before helps too.
 
Are you holding your breath too long? I try not to hold my breath for more than several seconds. If I haven't squeezed the shot off by then, I exhale and start over.

Or maybe it's muscle fatigue? One of the guys at the range kept hounding me to hold out a weight like I was shooting bullseye. Just hold it out there til my arm fatigued, that was to be my daily training exercise. I never did it, and he'd always shake his head when I told him so, but the theory was I'd be building up muscles needed for a steadier hold. The exercise and diet suggestions would also help in this area. FWIW.

If I may add to pax's most excellent description: I took a Bruce Gray class a few months back, and one of the little tricks he used to shoot his abnormally tight groups was to only increase pressure on the trigger in the center third of his wobble zone. (Of course, this is a bit more advanced than what pax is describing. You'd have to have pretty decent trigger control to begin with to reap the benefits of what BG's talking about.) I also read about a technique where the shooter actually tried decreasing his wobble zone. Sights drift left, ever-so-slight pressure to the right, etc. Again, not something to try until you have the basics down pat.

Anyways, hopefully it's just a technique issue and not health-related. Good luck. :)
 
Incredible post, pax.

I know as a 26 y/o man in relative good health (despite the few extra pounds I always gain this time of year.. heh :D), with certain guns that happens to me also... Mainly anything DAO with a trigger pull around or above 10 lbs will cause me to shake a little when pulling the trigger. The problem goes away when I'm shooting something with a lighter trigger, so maybe I just need a hand exerciser. :)

OTOH, most often when this is happening, my grip is too tight on the pistol and that's what is causing the problem. You can only squeeze something so tightly before your muscles tremble and your hands start to shake.

I try to keep my grip about as firm as a solid handshake.. Any tighter, I shake when I pull the trigger and my trigger finger has trouble moving independently, which is a big no no - and if it's not at least that firm then I can't maintain a perfect, uniform grip throughout. So if grip might be a part of your problem, think like Goldielocks from the 3 bears story.

It's gotta be juuuuuust right. :D
 
I've used Albuterol daily for COP for quite a few years. Never realized it might cause shakiness. I've never been more than a mediocre shot with handguns anyway and at 68 yrs I dang sure aint a spring chicken. What I've found best for me is just relax and have fun doing the best I can. I don't usually shoot for extended periods and surprisingly, I often kind of look at other shooters targets and find I'm not doing near as bad as I thought, even much better than some.
 
I'm also half way to 90 and I've noticed my shaking after a few shots. I usually go to bench shooting after that to control my groups. I thought that it was from lack of hand strength and I started using a hand exerciser. I haven't seen a difference. Can building hand strength help with this?
 
Hi "S-o-S" et al


Pax gave you some great info and I'll just try to add some to it (some of which will echo others).

Breath control is mandatory for muscle control. From the time you engage the target to the time you've completed the shot you should be breathing. Nowhere during that time do you hold your breath. The muscles in your fingers/hand(s)/arms should be flexed but only as much as you need to do the work - anything more is just working against you.
A mistake I've seen many times by shooters (usually at a bench) is to contort their body so their lung cavity is crowded and thus air supply is limited and torso muscles are consuming oxygen and providing unnecessary tension that translates into gun shake.
Pax's comments about the "wobble zone" are easily verified.
However, given a very good and predictable trigger, it is also very possible to learn to pull (not "snatch") the trigger as you see your sights coming into alignment. A basic premise of this though is that you are not wobbbling but instead you are steering your sights into alignment with the target - slowly and calmly while calmly taking up trigger pull and you know exactly when the gun will fire. Timing is everything. :D
 
I have no experience but I wonder if practicing Tai Chi would be useful for fine motor control. Anybody out there into one of the soft martial arts with thoughts on this?
 
shakes

I once tried a different two hand grip (while standing) technique to steady my right arm. Rather than the standard two hand grip, I tried grasping my right wrist firmly while pushing with my left arm toward the target. The results were satisfying; I would like to believe I invented it, but many older marksmen have probably tried this. It is only a slight variation from televison standard, but it could be useful for retired 007's. Sustained (which could be called rapid, illegal on some ranges*) fire from a sitting position while your knees support the artilliary is fun. Try to develope a rythmic rocking motion to absorb recoil, let the sights come back down ... squeeze, repeat every second, or so. One can also do this standing, of course.

Other than the obvious problems with medications for older shooters, deep breathing and stretching before shooting, and taking breaks during practice can't hurt.

wb :)

* Squeezing a semi auto or da revolver as fast as possible is probably what ranges define as rapid. I was taught rapid fire on a standard police target range; it is more as described above; the range police have never bothered me.
 
Gee thanks...some I hadn't thought of

Thanks to all responders. So kind. Some good thoughts came up.

GTSteve03 - ease in slow with .22LR
Dragongoddess - use a heavier gun

These two may seem contrary (and may be) but I'll try them next session.

Idyates - Carpel Tunnel Thanks for the tip this could be the issue.

Johnsonrlp - Yoga not an option, 6 pack, I'm really considering. I could try it at home with my air soft or pellet pistol.

Caffeine, Breathing, Trigger control, Grip tension, All good points, but I think I'm good there.

PAX - wobble zone I'll work on this theory for a while. Its a little like what my Dad (who's really old) said "You've just got to learn to hit moving targets".

Gwine - Tai Chi I'll bet Tai Chi or simular could help considerably. My choice would be 30 minutes Tai Chi or reload a box of .357. So far reloading always wins. I don't think I could concentrate on anything (besides shooting or reloading) for 30 minutes.
 
Agree with Pax. Had a guy (probably in his 30s) on the range one day with that problem. We were doing basic defensive type work with DA revolver and what we hit on was to just "shoot through it". As mentioned, wobble happens anyway, and trigger control is foremost. Nice sight alignment is all to the good but you can have less than perfect alignment and still get good results if the letoff is okay.

Sometimes I think that shooting is like an iceberg--what we think we know is just the tip compared to all the other stuff going on that we only dimly comprehend. Most of the time we just get in our own way.

Good luck. I think you'll be all right.
 
No way to improve on pax's comments.

I take Prednisone and that crap will make me shake pretty good. I've just had to come to peace with it. I'll never be on a pistol team like this, but I'm ok with what I can do.


I mean, how tight do you need 'em? What's your goal? Bullseye and benchrest accuracy? "Good enough" up to 10 yards accuracy?

Sometimes, we just have to live within our limitations.
 
BullfrogKen, I've had to take prednisone quite often in the past for pulmonary and other problems to to call it crap is definitely an understatement!! That stuff has some very nasty side effects on ones body!!
 
In my late 50s, my groups were opening up and I was getting a tremor in my shooting hand that almost made me sell my guns and give up shooting. An ultrasound showed 90%+ blockage in my left carotid.

After I got that cleaned out and a nice piece of Gortex installed to replace the damaged artery, everything went back to normal.

Now my groups are tight again. I’m into IDPA – came in 2nd overall at last Sunday’s match shooting my G19. Shot the “Bill Drill” clean in 2.84 sec from concealment.

John
Cape Canaveral
 
I was told that peoplethat have this problem should eat bananas for their potassium. It is suppose to help with muscle cramps and tremors.
 
Get tested for a possible electrolyte imbalance, like maybe potassium or magnesium.
 
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