Garandimal
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.22 LR
.357 Mag
5.56 NATO
.270 WIN
.30-06 SPG
GR
.357 Mag
5.56 NATO
.270 WIN
.30-06 SPG
GR
Must have rifle calibers.
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CraigC
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Seems to be some fog here between "must-haves" and those that would constitute a minimum battery.
I would suggest;
.22RF OR .32-20/.327 if you reload(.22 is finite)
5.56×45 OR similar .223 Wildcat(again if you reload)
I prefer 7MM bore diameters.
So for me, I'd suggest a 7×57 if you want a long action 7MM. 7MM-08 for short action rifles.
Maybe a .257Roberts if you want a flatter shooting 7×57. Please recall, the 7×57 is the grandfather of MOST cartridges. I mean, .30-06 came,about after the .30-03/improved upon. was a necked up and lengths 7×57 casing. .270 Winchester, ,280, .25-06 hell you could include .308 and its variants as well since itbwas created to replace the .30-06
7.65x53 Argentine is another classic. I would say a classic Mauser caliber is a MUST have.
6.5x55
7.65x53
7x57 Mauser.
or 8x57.
7MM seems to be the sweet spot if you ask me with 6.5 tied behind it with .30 caliber. Third tailing in tied with .270, and .257 bore. Depending on the job at hand.
.22RF OR .32-20/.327 if you reload(.22 is finite)
5.56×45 OR similar .223 Wildcat(again if you reload)
I prefer 7MM bore diameters.
So for me, I'd suggest a 7×57 if you want a long action 7MM. 7MM-08 for short action rifles.
Maybe a .257Roberts if you want a flatter shooting 7×57. Please recall, the 7×57 is the grandfather of MOST cartridges. I mean, .30-06 came,about after the .30-03/improved upon. was a necked up and lengths 7×57 casing. .270 Winchester, ,280, .25-06 hell you could include .308 and its variants as well since itbwas created to replace the .30-06
7.65x53 Argentine is another classic. I would say a classic Mauser caliber is a MUST have.
6.5x55
7.65x53
7x57 Mauser.
or 8x57.
7MM seems to be the sweet spot if you ask me with 6.5 tied behind it with .30 caliber. Third tailing in tied with .270, and .257 bore. Depending on the job at hand.
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someguy2800
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Why in the world would you care what armed forces or law enforcement agencies are using?
Most of the time, the military is slow to adopt new rifles/calibers. 5.56 NATO for example is based on .222 Remington. The .257 Roberts and .25-06 are early examples of hunters seeing the value in less recoil and flatter trajectory in rifle calibers well before the military cared. I read somewhere a European Country is trying to do 6.5Grendel AK rifles across the board. Sometimes militaries adopt civilian technology in ballistics, sometimes they don't.
The logistical advantage of using of militaries and LE use is resupply/aftermarket. The market is flooded with; 9/.40 Beretta, Sig, and Glock handguns. If you buy any of the above, you end up with a HUGE aftermarket. Beretta M9 gets my vote being NATO approved and used. The supply of 15 round magazines is endless in comparison to a Hudson H9. Particularly now the US is using the Sig 320. Surplus brass, pulled bullets, or ammo is also a valid point. I still however contend reloading negates all of the benefits of following what the military/police use. Stack deep, stack cheap, and be able to resupply yourself.
someguy2800
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The way I see it is the military and LE has completely different needs and logic than what a normal civilian non doomsday prepper has. For example I have a Beretta M9 and its the worst pistol I've ever owned for what I need. It may have been fine for law enforcement or as a military sidearm but it doesn't carry worth a darn and it stinks as a target pistol. Same goes for rifles, there is nothing in current military service I would want to hunt with. I don't follow the logic of broadly recommending 300 win mag over 30-06 when if I go in the store there is 394 kinds of 30-30, 243, 270, and 30-06 ammo stacked on the shelf and 3 kinds of 300 win mag that are twice as expensive, when for 90% of people it offers no advantage.
TTv2
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The different needs argument has merits, but my focus is on ammo cost and availability. Because of the .308's role in military/LEO the cost for .308 ammo is much lower than it is for .30-06, about 30% lower and that 30% is across the board when you compare target ammo to target ammo, match/hunting ammo to match/hunting ammo for .308 and .30-06.
.300 Win Mag doesn't have any savings compared to .30-06, but when you get into the type of power it has, the difference is night/day and you're gonna pay for extra power whether you're shooting .300 Win Mag or .35 Whelen or something else. If you don't need that extra power, nbd, the .308 can do what the .30-06 can and for less.
And it's not about hunting, it's about any circumstance you'll be shooting. The .308 will serve anyone well, more than the .30-06 will imo. Given it's widespread use, ammo will always be available.
cdb1
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TTv2 said:
So will 30-06 ammo.
You were saying???
even at regular price thats not a 30% difference and that is not even shopping around. just jumped on midway.
TTv2
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Alright, the price for premium hunting ammo is the same, but generic stuff favors .308
someguy2800
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It really doesn't, unless your buying surplus FMJ or steel case crap.
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?targetL...y=p_priceperunit|0||p_metric_sales_velocity|1
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?targetL...y=p_priceperunit|0||p_metric_sales_velocity|1
69Precision
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Depends what you do. If you don't hunt or shoot past 300 yards, a 223 and a 22 would cover things easily. If you like shooting prarie dogs, hunting moose, and target shooting to a mile, a larger battery of rifles would be needed.
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