My $ .02 on revolver ccw

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I don't think that there is any real right or wrong here. I personally don't own any gun I don't expect to go bang when I pull the trigger, at any time. While I have both revolvers and semis, I find I do not shoot so well with snubbies, which is what I would probably use for a CCW if I was forced to. On the other hand, I shoot my 6' Taurus 66 .357 magnum better than any other gun I own. But I consider a 6" revolver WAY too big for CCW. My Dan Wesson 10mm is probably way too much gun needed for any situation I would face on the street, along with overpenetration issues. My Ruger KP944DC 40 S&W is a nice gun, but just a little too bulky for CCW, as is my Ruger KP89DC 9mm. I think if the lousy state of Illinois that I live in would allow CCW, I would get a Dan Wesson CBOB, .45 semi-auto. I think you just need to go with what you trust and feel comfortable with.
 
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QUOTE]V-fib was that a compilation of jams put together on purpose? It is certainly possible to make anything look unreliable with selective processes.

Regardless, of these three examples, only the last one sounds like it definitely was the pistol's fault IMHO. The first one could easily be the result of poor or non-existent maintenance or even simple operator error (wrong sized rounds, not inserting the mag fully, etc.) on the part of the BG. Your typical thug knows or cares very little about how to properly operate or maintain a firearm. The second one could have happened through some action of the officer's, such as possibly releasing the mag on a gun with a magazine safety before the BG got it away from him. Sometimes just the fact that the gun has an engaged external safety will confound the BGs attempts at firing, at least long enough for a cop to take cover. recover the weapon, or access his backup

Opflash,

Nope it wasn’t aimed at making cops look bad or semiautos for that matter it was just a show showing encounters police had with BG’s and other dangerous situations (like a cop getting hit by a drunk driver while talking to a motorist pulled over, etc) caught on various dash cams. There were a couple of situations where police used their guns and BG’s used their guns without malfunction. Just an observation on my part.
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When a semi-auto is 1) reliability tested with the ammo to be used, 2) maintained regularly, and 3) fired with correct form, it is something that can be relied on to go bang, however it is far more sensitive to 1,2 and 3, so, for example, in the heat of sudden battle, the draw and shoot is not likely to have proper form. The grip is not likely to be the normal grip, and the arm is not likely to be locked out straight and stiff. Under those circumstances, the likelihood of a malfunction is magnified tremendously, even in a weapon that has been reliability tested with its ammo, and one which has been meticulously maintained. This is likely the explanation for what you saw on that video, and this is why revolvers are better sidearms for police and civilian CCW.

Semi-automatics have been favored in the military going back to the early 20th Century because they are 1) not the primary weapon of the front line soldier, 2) if they get thrown in mud, it is a simple matter to field strip them and clean the internals out, and 3) if they should suffer from parts breakage, it is a simple matter to replace the part without the need for a highly skilled gunsmith. These factors, however, have little bearing on choosing a civilian CCW or police sidearm.
 
DougW

I am afraid that my Glock 19 is a little too reliable for that cop show.
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Another video shows a female cop with a huge BG on top of her about to shoot her with her own service Glock.......click, click no bang....couple of good sams then wrestled the guy to the ground.

My point is, when your ticket is up, it's up........but I'm sticking with the revo crowd.
 
Well, I woke up in a .45 mood this morning, loaded, strapped on the P90, and this is the first thread I read? My Ruger never jams. I ain't worried.
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Yes, a day at the range will rarely make a good specimen of a P90 jam. Try being tackled by someone who has 50 pounds on you and, from the bottom, grabbing your P90 from its holster and firing it at or near contact distance from your attacker from that position while you fend off a knife attack with your other hand. Would you then wish you had a Colt Detective Special instead of your P90?
 
Before he got to me with that knife, he'd have couple of 200 grain hollowpoints in his center mass and one in the head. I don't think I'd have a problem.:D Of all my handguns, I shoot this one the best, better than my Kel Tec, better than my revolvers, better than the 2 1911s I don't have anymore. And, of course, one .45=2 .38s. :neener: At least that's what all the 1911 guys tell me. :rolleyes: :D
 
I own many more autos than revolvers but in CCW mode I protect my bacon with a revolver or two most of the time! Heck, when SHTF I even get to take my fired brass home with me rather than leaving it scattered around with my ID all over the spent cases for WHOEVER to find! :scrutiny:

My choice; there are many, but this is the one I prefer! :D

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It's TV, not Real, Fantasy, Stupid in fact! I can't believe the # of people who even have a thought it may be real .
 
Wow, lots of myths in this thread both ways! It's almost a thread o' myths! I've carried and shot both, and I don't see any major reliability difference between them.

Quality control has gone way down on revolvers lately.
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I wouldn't make that bold a statement, but I do think the makers see wheelguns more and more as "fun guns" and simply don't put the time and money into QC and design on them that they used to. S&W is coming out with an array of fancied-up revolvers, which is fine, but they're not for an institutional client and you're simply not going to see the same level of attention.

This is one reason I prefer to buy OLDER revolvers and NEWER pistols. I've had considerable problems with most pistols I've owned that were over 25 years old, but the reverse is true for wheelguns.

I still think my Speed Six is the ultimate handgun, though. It has the reliability and easy field stripping of a Glock, but the tough steel parts and muscle of a Ruger magnum.
 
Me, too. Too many good, used, servicable older revolvers out there on the market to be spending big bucks, for one. And, they didn't put locks on guns in the 80s, another plus. There are some tasty guns on the new gun market, the titanium stuff mainly, that are out of my budget, anyway. I'm still trying to find a decent deal on an older Smith, but prices are high down here. I'd not rule another Security Six out of the fold, either, if I found a decent one for a decent price. I've got enough guns, now, and am in no hurry. I can wait and bargain shop, over half the fun anyway anymore. :D
 
Me, too. Too many good, used, servicable older revolvers out there on the market to be spending big bucks, for one.
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Aint that the truth? I just today picked up a nearly NIB condition 1970 S&W Model 18. For those not completely up on the number codes, that's identical to the .38 Special Combat Masterpiece, but in .22 lr. Guy was asking $400 for it, which is a great price to start with, and I offered him a Randall "Hunter" knife plus $50, and he accepted. The knife is real nice, but I think I did damned well on that trade.
 
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Exactly why a cop needs to carry a backup, period:banghead: No man made machine is ever %100 percent reliable in all situations. I have spent many a time observing the people I was interviewing glaring at my SIG 226 in the holster knowing damn well they were thinking about going for it if the situation turned bad. My little 640 clutched in my pocket always made me less worried about that. Having only one gun changes that whole dynamic. My Sig has never jammed and the Smith has never failed to go bang. I trust them both, but only as much as I can trust any machine. By the way I also carry a knife! Bill
 
What happened convinced me that the choice I made to carry a revolver was the right choice .
The cop and the bad guy were wrestling on the ground . The bad guy managed to take the cops gun away from him . The BG pointed the gun at the cop , who was on the ground , and pulled the trigger . Fortunately for the cop , the SEMI AUTO JAMBED .
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Well there you go, it's a no-brainer. You have to carry a semi-auto because the bad guy is going to take it away from you, it's going to "jamb", and voila! Your life is spared!

If you, or the cop, were to carry one of those ever-lovin' reliable revolvers, you/he would be smoked.

Like I said, it's a no-brainer.

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Hey, even better yet, carry nothing at all. Then the bad guy's going to be unarmed throughout your tussle.
 
I'd surely be interested in having information on a verifiable, documented, authenticated incident wherein a peace officer -- or civilian -- shoved his/her semi-automatic pistol against a bad guy, pulled the trigger and nothing happened because the barrel had been shoved "out-of-battery."

For years, I have seen/read these various mall ninja stories of "Yeah, I just slapped my palm against that guy's .45 auto, knocked it out of battery and then kicked the bejesus outta him."

Uh huh.

About the time someone tried that with the shooters and peace officers I know, they'd end up with a large hole through their hand and another right through their brisket.

I say again, "verifiable, documented, authenticated incident."


P.S. The Glocks I've shot, when empty, do not go "Click, click, click." Once the striker falls, unless the slide is racked, whether by the shooter or the exploding round, it can not be raised again.

I'm not a big Glock fan, so maybe today, they have that continuous double action mechanism like other double action semi-autos... but I don't know. I only have some experience with standard, older Glocks.


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Everything I own is semiauto and I'm pretty content. I used to have a 29-2 but the guy I bought it from suffered an attack of seller's remorse and I returned it. I ordered an SAA clone but it aspires to emulate SIG's 556 delivery woes. I'm about ready to simply concede that the powers don't want me to have a wheelgun.

However, my semi's are conspicuously insensitive to poor form - if they can be "limp-wristed" they're repaired or sold. There's nary a one that won't work one-handed weak side upside down.
 
+1 WCWhitney, Hawk.
Primary is revolver, but off hand has a fixed blade next to it.
Change the stage to mass riots or combat, semi rifle, semi pistol, and revolver for backup (with sword and fixed blade next to off hand).
Big ditto for if it limp wrists, get another one that will not.
 
What ever CCW choice one makes, one thing stands out above the rest of
all the other criteria. The element of surprise HAS to be on your side~!
NO EXCEPTIONS to this rule. Too many times, I have known (or heard
of persons) who noticeably carry their CCW in plain view; and too many
times, I've known of the perp taking not only their wallet (or purse) but
their weapon as well. One incident like this happened just recently while
the driver was fiddling with a cigarette in the ash tray of his vechile. The
victim was stopped at a red light at 0300 hrs in a very bad part of town,
with his drivers side window down (as it was warm). The perp leaped out
of another car and told the victim to give it up~! Unfortunately, his CCW
piece was laying on the seat (in plain view, as he had no CCW license);
so the perp took his wallet and his gun~!:eek: :uhoh: :(

Lastly, may I suggest to all:

In todays hustle and bustle society,

Pay Attention To Your Surroundings At All Times~!
 
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