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Sgt Stevo
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This is not good. And you need to understand that.
Even though we argue guns, dogs politics, etc. we are for the most part, like minded people.
And some of that like mindedness, is a belief in honer.
I am not being mean. You would know if I was. But you insulted not only the THR, but good cops.
I am not a cop. But the way they think, their belief in honesty and their code is a lot like ours was in the Infantry.
They also tend to have enough on thier plate. They dont need drama.
That said, did you notice the words forgive and how, even though you stepped on your pecker, these guys are still sticking up for you.
That right there is what I am talking about.
Never try to impress or lie to to fit in. It is a waste of time.
The people who matter, will like you, for who you are.
Be well,Stevo..........
Even though we argue guns, dogs politics, etc. we are for the most part, like minded people.
And some of that like mindedness, is a belief in honer.
I am not being mean. You would know if I was. But you insulted not only the THR, but good cops.
I am not a cop. But the way they think, their belief in honesty and their code is a lot like ours was in the Infantry.
They also tend to have enough on thier plate. They dont need drama.
That said, did you notice the words forgive and how, even though you stepped on your pecker, these guys are still sticking up for you.
That right there is what I am talking about.
Never try to impress or lie to to fit in. It is a waste of time.
The people who matter, will like you, for who you are.
Be well,Stevo..........
It is sad to see someone hurt their good name (in the end our good name is all we really have).
While this does bring to mind the worst facet of the internet, complete anonymity and having only the past credebility of a source as a judge of the current credability.
This does however show me what an astounding collection of people are here.
I read the original thread from start to finish after seeing this thread. It showed me:
1. Members of this forum stand up for what they beleive is right (people came to bat for the "unjustly seized citizen" and for the "doing their sometimes difficult/dangerous duty police")
2. while fairly verbose and a little dodgy at times everyone seemed to manage to disagree cordially and debate any issues of contention in an adult manner (some forums are not this polite).
3. Many interesting, amusing, and educational tales were told about being scrutinized by police.
4. Some members of this forum have mind boggling detective skills (in sniffing out and independantly verifying that the original thread was bogus.
It is unfortunate that we must be reminded that there are people who embellish, fib, or outright lie; yet It is nice to see that the many of the members here can at the same time prove the high road is not just a name.
While this does bring to mind the worst facet of the internet, complete anonymity and having only the past credebility of a source as a judge of the current credability.
This does however show me what an astounding collection of people are here.
I read the original thread from start to finish after seeing this thread. It showed me:
1. Members of this forum stand up for what they beleive is right (people came to bat for the "unjustly seized citizen" and for the "doing their sometimes difficult/dangerous duty police")
2. while fairly verbose and a little dodgy at times everyone seemed to manage to disagree cordially and debate any issues of contention in an adult manner (some forums are not this polite).
3. Many interesting, amusing, and educational tales were told about being scrutinized by police.
4. Some members of this forum have mind boggling detective skills (in sniffing out and independantly verifying that the original thread was bogus.
It is unfortunate that we must be reminded that there are people who embellish, fib, or outright lie; yet It is nice to see that the many of the members here can at the same time prove the high road is not just a name.
Valkman
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Man, here 2 months and feel the need to post made up stuff? And then keep contributing to it instead of ending it?
Forgiving isn't hard - you admitted it and I can forgive. But trusting anything you have to say from now on - that's the problem. I agree with esheato.
Forgiving isn't hard - you admitted it and I can forgive. But trusting anything you have to say from now on - that's the problem. I agree with esheato.
rayra
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Owning up is not enough.
/feh
/feh
Working Man
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No pat on the back for paying the piper, it's like giving someone an award
for just showing up to work.... that's what you are suppose to do.
It also sound like you got called out more than a guilty conscious.
That being said I hope you realize just how important honesty is, a man's
word is the law by which his life is governed. If his words can't be trusted
then neither can his actions or intentions. Honor and integrity is what
separates a Man from just being male.
I hope you have learned something here.
It doesn't matter if you post one good post/thread a day or every other year.
Who you are and your interests should be all that is needed to fit in here.
Live and learn.
for just showing up to work.... that's what you are suppose to do.
It also sound like you got called out more than a guilty conscious.
That being said I hope you realize just how important honesty is, a man's
word is the law by which his life is governed. If his words can't be trusted
then neither can his actions or intentions. Honor and integrity is what
separates a Man from just being male.
I hope you have learned something here.
It doesn't matter if you post one good post/thread a day or every other year.
Who you are and your interests should be all that is needed to fit in here.
Live and learn.
usp9
Member
as an act of CONTRITION...
You should send your favorite firearm to another member of the forum. I hereby accept your offer.
On the serious side, Jesus said "Your sins are forgiven. Go and sin NO MORE"
Applies to all of us I guess.
You should send your favorite firearm to another member of the forum. I hereby accept your offer.
On the serious side, Jesus said "Your sins are forgiven. Go and sin NO MORE"
Applies to all of us I guess.
Nashmack
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I was planning on posting an apology/retraction prior to speaking with Mr. McLoud. This was a guilty conscience, there was no need for a callout, yall can debate that as much as you wish.
I will say Jim though, he takes care of his customers. When he first contacted me, he wanted names, times, etc, and he called the MPD to investigate.
Of course my reputation here is now tarnished, but how many of you would have been man enough to admit that you lied had you been in my place? Of course some of you will answer with "Well I wouldn't have done it in the first place..." Please, save your keystrokes.
I will say Jim though, he takes care of his customers. When he first contacted me, he wanted names, times, etc, and he called the MPD to investigate.
Of course my reputation here is now tarnished, but how many of you would have been man enough to admit that you lied had you been in my place? Of course some of you will answer with "Well I wouldn't have done it in the first place..." Please, save your keystrokes.
High Planes Drifter
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Of course my reputation here is now tarnished, but how many of you would have been man enough to admit that you lied had you been in my place? Of course some of you will answer with "Well I wouldn't have done it in the first place..."
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No, not going to say anything like that. But did you come clean only because you got busted, or was your concieous honestly bothering you long before Chipperman said anything? It takes alot of courage owning up to the muck up, I'l give you that. You could have chickened out and said your friend, an ex girlfriend, or your little brother got on your computer and posted it, but you didnt. I am just not completely sure I understand what motivated you to come clean about it.
Genuinely coming clean is one thing. Getting caught then confessing whats already known pretty much becuse you were given an altimatum is something comletely different.
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No, not going to say anything like that. But did you come clean only because you got busted, or was your concieous honestly bothering you long before Chipperman said anything? It takes alot of courage owning up to the muck up, I'l give you that. You could have chickened out and said your friend, an ex girlfriend, or your little brother got on your computer and posted it, but you didnt. I am just not completely sure I understand what motivated you to come clean about it.
Genuinely coming clean is one thing. Getting caught then confessing whats already known pretty much becuse you were given an altimatum is something comletely different.Nashmack
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Please refer to the first line of my previous post. There is no genuine way to prove that it was guilty conscience, I know within myslef that it is, even though you may not believe me.
real_name
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Why should I believe you,? (See post #1 in this thread.)
Really though, it doesn't matter to me why you confessed. It matters that you did confess, next time you tell a tall story just make it about your accuracy or the contents of your BOB (like others here).
Nashmack
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I think a lot of us aren't honest when it comes to tales of our accuracy. At least I was when I did the range report on the compact Witness in the autoloaders forum.
As for the bug out bag....lets see what we have here...
As for the bug out bag....lets see what we have here...
repsychler
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You just haven't been looking at the right sites.
I'll give Nashmack credit for owning up, especially since it sounds like he apologized to Mr. McLoud in person.
real_name
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The GOP website has spankings?!?!
/shudders.
Nashmack
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Umm, not to bust yalls collective butts, but this thread seems to be drifting.
Yes, I apologized to Mr. McLoud in person. I was scared as hell to go in his office and apologize to him, espescially since he is a former Drill Sergeant, but he's one hell of a guy!
Yes, I apologized to Mr. McLoud in person. I was scared as hell to go in his office and apologize to him, espescially since he is a former Drill Sergeant, but he's one hell of a guy!
One of the hardest thing in the world to do is to admit you were wrong. I for one will not cast stones but commend you. Reading the posts from FL and THR, I get the impression a whole lot of posts are made out of thin air. At least you admitted it and said you were sorry. Way to go. You can be my wingman anytime.
Q-Lock
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Well...it's good to know that you've come clean about the whole ordeal, but like others have mentioned, I don't understand what gave you the idea to post your "story" in the first place.
Although it will be a while before people will be able to trust your word, at least you've started your rehabilitation with a bit of truth. I think this thread will supply plenty of punishment with the comments other members have to say about the issue. You'll just have to sit back and take the verbal "spankings" like a man and accept your punishment.
I forgive you for your lie...lets start over.
Good day to you sir,
Although it will be a while before people will be able to trust your word, at least you've started your rehabilitation with a bit of truth. I think this thread will supply plenty of punishment with the comments other members have to say about the issue. You'll just have to sit back and take the verbal "spankings" like a man and accept your punishment.
I forgive you for your lie...lets start over.
Good day to you sir,
Working Man
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I will give you kudos for the in person part. Few do that even when they are
unintentionally wrong.
I hope the reactions here show you the importance of honesty and also that
all is not lost.
But I'm still wondering why you did it in the first place.
Skeptic
Member
IMHO, well said Preacherman and Standing Wolf.
The deed is done.
I personally think you did the right thing by "fessing up....
Now, get on with the rest of your life.
The deed is done.
I personally think you did the right thing by "fessing up....
Now, get on with the rest of your life.
one-shot-one
Member
for what it is worth
apology accepted.
to those who don't, i can't speak for you but my life is not so clean (i try, it just doesn't always work out) that i can afford to hold something like this over another.
apology accepted.
to those who don't, i can't speak for you but my life is not so clean (i try, it just doesn't always work out) that i can afford to hold something like this over another.
PinnedAndRecessed
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Derek asked you why you did this. Since this forum is the location of substantial business transactions, that is a valid question.
Said transactions demand poster's integrity. This is what we're dealing with.
You responded,
Obviously, given the number of posters who continue to ask the question (viz., why you did it), your response is not believable. If that response is not believable, then your other response is not believable.
The conclusion, therefore, would be that you had no "epiphany" but rather were called on the carpet by Mr. McCloud.
And that's not the same thing as "coming clean."
Yet when posters continue to question, you respond with,
That, my friend, is what is known as rationalization. Inherent in the remark is an attempt to justify your behavior.
As I said, this forum is the location of numerous business transactions. People who post here have credibility. Many have used their credibility to defraud others.
Someone earlier mentioned Calvert1. This was exactly the scenario I'm describing. Calvert had credibility and used that to lie and cheat and steal.
http://sigforum.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/100106684
So, you'll understand if some of us remain skeptical.
Said transactions demand poster's integrity. This is what we're dealing with.
You responded,
Obviously, given the number of posters who continue to ask the question (viz., why you did it), your response is not believable. If that response is not believable, then your other response is not believable.
The conclusion, therefore, would be that you had no "epiphany" but rather were called on the carpet by Mr. McCloud.
And that's not the same thing as "coming clean."
Yet when posters continue to question, you respond with,
That, my friend, is what is known as rationalization. Inherent in the remark is an attempt to justify your behavior.
As I said, this forum is the location of numerous business transactions. People who post here have credibility. Many have used their credibility to defraud others.
Someone earlier mentioned Calvert1. This was exactly the scenario I'm describing. Calvert had credibility and used that to lie and cheat and steal.
http://sigforum.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/100106684
So, you'll understand if some of us remain skeptical.
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While I missed the thread you're apologizing for, I did follow this one http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=192584.
Is it made up also?
Is it made up also?
Sgt Stevo
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Sorry about the spelling on my last post Guys. I was tired.
Why? Is the million $ Question.
Why? Is the million $ Question.
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