My buddy got mugged...what did he do wrong?

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ATK, you are correct it would be better if I took off. You do bring up a good point. I guess we haven't talked about what we would do if a situation arose such as this. It is somethign that we should talk through so we have a definate plan.
 
sturmruger wrote:
I have since applied for a Utah permit so next time I am in Vegas I will be carrying.
Not that I want to rain on your parade or anything, but I was under the impression that the Utah permit covered Utah and Arizona, but was not good in Nevada. Am I misinformed (always a possibility...)?

(basing this on data supplied at Utah CCW for the 19 states Utah permit covers)
 
Nevada recognizes no other state's permits, but you can get a NV Visitor's Permit. I applied for my permit before I moved here so it's what I have - good for 3 years where the Resident is good for 5 years.

Good thing you were paying attention, as walking around the Strip area at night can definitly be hazardous to your health. Seems like every criminal in the Western migrates here for some reason.
 
My mistake. I forgot the reason I was picking up the Utah was to be able to carry in AZ not NV. Thanks for setting me straight.
 
Aikibiker,

That's right! I couldn't remember where I had read about that issue, but I would have tried to find the source after I got home (prolly shoulda mentioned that in my previous post). All of MacYoung's books cover important information, such as protecting your loved ones, or how to run away without getting caught. The police officers I've spoken with have all agreed with his comments :)


edit: I misspelled Aikibiker's name the first time through...
 
Sadly, it does sound as if he were asking for it. He is probably a fine person
...many very nice people don't understand the nature of evil.....
walking alone in any city in the world at 1:30 in the morning is very unwise.
I assume Belgium is very anti-gun, but there are excellent, perhaps even better, alternatives,
considering the terrible legal consequences of even a self defense shooting.
1) Pepper spray. Not the tepid, tiny key chain ones...but a big 4 ounce can or larger with a
Fogger spray top capable of hosing down five guys at once...carry two of them. If approached, back away, make eye
contact, and reach into your pocket....they may think your reaching for a gun. The spray tops have a ring on top
you hook your finger through to pull it out...very quick to get into action. I once read a true acount of a fellow
who instantly took out 3 attackers, one with a knife with such a weapon. They all dropped to their knees, and rubbed
their faces into the grass, screaming and crying.
2) Carry one of the most fearsome legal weapons known to urban street combat:
a baseball bat. Tremendous, crushing energy. Long reach. Capable of taking out even multiple
attackers with it's arcing swing. Walk briskly down the street with one of these perched on
your shoulder....look alert...scanning side to side....they'll think twice...
predators of all types want EASY prey. Carry a glove and ball too....if the police have questions.
3) 6 cell Maglight. (The 6 "C" cell is lighter and more agile as a baton than the massive "D" cell)
Also a devastating weapon with a definite psychological message: cop....security guard
"Don't tread on me" Also can be perched on the shoulder. Grip it down near the lens in your
fist with the little finger over the light button...if approached,
one can click the button and swing 17,000 candlepower directly into the darkness widened pupils
of any would be attackers...if sudden, painfull blindness fails to deter, the heavy, 6 pound aluminum butt end can be
brought down instantly....crushing swinging fists....arms....shoulders....heads....
 
I know something of the Flemish/German/French/Dutch disputes in Belgium, having imported a few dogs from there. Belgium today is barely a nation in any viable sense of the term. The various linguistic groups rarely even speak with each other, and hate is too mild a term for how they feel about one another. Think Switzerland gone bad.

The solution to this fellow's problem would have been to have my zo zo at hand:

http://www.alaskagermanshepherds.com/XohraD.html

She's a sweety, and has three real life take-downs to her credit over in Belgique. And she don't speak no Flemish. Or French for that matter.
 
There you go. Zo Zo would do it. Beautiful dog. Legal, intelligent, loyal to the death. But
you do have to walk her everyday. But....very effective solution.
Zo Zo's leash in one hand....fogger spray in the inside coat pocket....Maglight baton in the other...
Good bye, Hooligans.
 
ATK, my wife understands that we will run if possible, but that if I deem it necessary to stand and fight she is to run and get to a safe place to use her cell to call for help. Neither of us is a world-class sprinter (to put it mildly) and running is not always the safest option.

It is understood that when she runs I will tell her loudly if I'm with her. If she doesn't hear me, then I'm trying if possible to slow down the pursuit.

We made this plan specifically to avoid the kind of mess where two people try to do the same job to "save" the other rather than take advantage of being a team. She has her job and I have mine.
 
I used to run cross country in Junior High, and for years afterwards I would run over a hundred miles a week spring to fall. Having also played a lot of tag most days during school recess, during the summer in my youth, and from other life experience .I would not want to have to run away with someone else. Even if the other person was a better runner than I, the thought would scare me unless I had a gun for backup.

To answer the thread, not running when the five guys got out, or when they started to surround him.
 
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