Ol Spiffy Almost Got Mugged~!

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Just got a breathless phone call from the spaceboy...guess he was walking home when some miscreant accosted him and while he didnt have to clear leather, I guess the Kimber was involved somehow (he wasnt to clear, he was all excited)...

The street scum ran up my way....guess I got to strap on the old high power when I go to pick up SWMBO at work...

Lets hope he posts what happened so we can all critique......

WildhepoopedhispantstooAlaska
 
Aaaah, pass on sympathies and a pat on the head for still breathing

Hope he's ok, disarmed them with his wit I presume? :)

Weird that two hours before this post he posted elsewhere saying he was more likely to be run over by a moose than mugged....

Lifes little surprises, sheesh
 
"When it's least expected, you're elected..."

-John Farnam by way of _Candid Camera_

lpl/nc
 
okay, so i've had about 12 hours to mull it over, and sleep on it. now the rest of you can affirm the mistakes i made and maybe point out the ones i didnt notice.

approx 7:40 pm
i'm walking home, taking side streets because alaskan drivers never look for pedestrians. on my left i'm coming towards the backside of a chevron station, and i see a truck pull up and park, between me and the station. the passenger steps out, leaves the door open and walks around to the front of the station. i keep walking behind the station, and when i'm about to clear the other side, covering a distance of half a block, the passenger that stepped out didnt go into the station as i figured, but was walking on an intercept path towards me. about 15 yards.

i glance behind me and see the truck he exited from had pulled slowly behind us. the passenger sees him, and starts yelling 'What the hell are you doing?' at the driver. he has a few words with the driver, and the driver pulls away and makes a right at the intersection i'm approaching. the truck had a 2nd passenger, a female, all i know about the driver is that it was a guy.

the passenger that exited then starts calling after me, telling me to 'hold up!' i dont recognize him so i dont stop. he catches up to me, and i'm in an awkward place, trying to cross the street but theres traffic, nowhere to move my fatass quickly towards, no real cover.
oh yeah, almost forgot. when the truck pulled behind me is when the 'spideysense' started geeking. at that moment i slipped my hand onto the grips of my gun. doubt that the average joe would realize what i was doing, but any one of us would instantly know i had my hand on something defensive.

i keep as much distance as possible between me and the passenger, but hes closing it quickly. so i walk halfway across spenard to the median and he follows. i cant cross all the way over because of traffic. i keep backing up and the guy is continuing to tell me to 'hold up buddy! i just want to talk!'
he asks me "are you Lopez?' i tell him 'no. leave me alone.'
"awww come on, i just want to touch your hand buddy, let me just do that'.
hes now within 10 feet of me. i hold up my left hand and tell him to 'back off!' he doesnt, and the spideysense is now a napalm laying ************.
i tell him 'dude, you're making me nervous here, just back the **** off, i dont know you, dont have time for you, leave me alone!'
and he keeps on with his 'i just want to touch your hand buddy'. traffics clear, so i turn to cross the rest of the street, and he reaches out and jabs towards my right hand that is still gripping the kimber. as he hits the butt of the gun he says 'BAMM!' (maybe he was emulating Emeril?), and then runs back across the street.
when he jabbed at my hand i yelled out HEYYY! and turned back towards him.

i watched him continue walking west on spenard for a minute before heading to my home, rubbernecking behind me the whole way. when i'm about 75 yards from my front door, i notice the same truck the passenger got out of was making a u-turn a the three-way stop at the end of my street. someone in the truck yells something out towards me, couldnt tell what it was.



ken suggested i call the police, and after a few moments rethinking the situation, i did just that. an officer came out and took a report on it, both the dispatcher i talked to on the non-emergency line and the officer who talked with me agreed it was very suspicious.
a small part of my mind thinks the guy could have just been friendly and wanted to shake someones hand or whatever. but my spideysense knows better. and its telling me that the truck wasnt supposed to have pulled up so quickly. the passenger was going to do something to me and the truck was there for his quick getaway. thats my assumption, and the best possible explanation in my opinion.

so, tell me what i did wrong, and how i could avoid making those mistakes in the future.
 
Two things off the top of my head

BIG error was you let him get WAY too close.

Second was you should have headed into the chevron station if it was open.

O.K. three things. You should have called the police right off!

Don't you carry a cell phone?
 
Man, that's your very own "What's the frequency, Kenneth?" moment. Weird.
 
Spiff,
To clarify, he actually struck the butt of your Kimber?
Very, very weird situation. Nice job ensuring your weapon was retained, though.
Who's 'Lopez'?
Mexican robot on the Blue team.
 
spiffy,

Hey, you walked away from it, they did too, IMHO ya did good. Some scary stuff, crazy person or criminal either way it's scary.

Hop you got the plates on the truck to pass along.

lpl/nc
 
Only hindsight change I'd have made would be to never turn my back on a perceived threat. You want as much distance as possible between your weapon and your assailant. Then again, you have to watch traffic to cross... catch 22. You were limited in how far you could retreat by traffic, so you got as far as you could without getting run over.

Did this guy look like he had a death wish? You have a full-combat grip on a hip-holstered weapon, and he wants to touch your hand? :scrutiny: I may have given a snide comment insinuating that he'd get more than just a hand, and leave the rest up to his imagination.

Monday Morning Quarterback- Signing off!
 
well, i was on the backside of the chevron, to enter i would have had to follow the passenger.

no, i dont have a cell phone, have kind of a grudge against them. maybe i should rethink that.

i guess i kinda look like i might be hispanic. then again, i kinda also look like i could be a fat asian. or a skinny samoan.

no, didnt get plates on the truck. was focusing more attention on the passenger, also why i didnt get a close look at the driver, all i know is he was wearing a hat.

come on now, theres a several other mistakes i made, be brutal! not gonna hurt my feelings.

edit - btw, the weapon was not exposed, my shirt still covered my hand on the grips.
 
It's real easy to quarterback on this sorta stuff - so all in all, I doubt many would have done a lot different, tho now we see various alternate options that mighta been played out. These situations evolve second by second ... each one that passes presents new info input and need for decision-making.

Spiffy - from where I am I don't think you did too bad at all ... and it was good you were carrying.
 
Probably just as well you didn't present, you could have drawn and fired if he had produced a weapon. You did fine IMO. :)
 
Hi spiff!

You walked away. Good to debrief, but that's ultimately the bottom line.

I'm spooked by the whole "dude, I just want to touch your hand" and slapping the butt of the gun...

It's almost like he KNEW you were carrying, wanted your hand off the gun, maybe to hold it to prevent you from drawing it so he could get to it.
************---
Slapping it and yelling BAM tells me he he AT the MINIMUM suspected it was there.

That was phreaking bold to the point of crazy, because many of us might have been inclined to clear leather, and no telling where it might have gone from there.

You were a potential snack for him. You walked away intact.
People like this exist everywhere, and you never know when they're going to go into predator mode with you or your loved ones as the prey.

************---As I typed this, I had the doorbell ring in the middle of the day and a minority youth start dancing side-to-side and trying to sell me a magazine subscription...I was the LAST one he needed etc. etc. etc...He talked about how he was looking for nice non-violent people blahblahblahblah..

I told him I'd love to help, but I didn't qualify for the program.
He asked why, and I told him because might consider me a violent person--I carry a gun (turned sideways and pulled mine out just a peek).
He said "thanks for being cool about it-- I'll just move on". :D
Never know when.
 
It's like a plane crash/emergency landing. Any you can walk away from. You didn't do too many things wrong if you walked away from it.
 
"awww come on, i just want to touch your hand buddy, let me just do that'

Micheal Jackson tried to mug you? Kidding aside, glad to see you come out of it unharmed, Makes you wonder if the perp was on some hallicinative drug or something.

Charby
 
one of his hands was out of sight.
he did look towards my hip where my hand was.


the biggest thing that is irking me is that i pretty much hit the panic button. there was nothing calm or cool about my composure. probably the rush of adrenalin.

i let him get too close.
i turned my back to him, several times.

should i have drawn down? no, i saw no weapon in his hands.
about the only thing i could have done is have my surefire more easily accessible. i would have had no problem giving him a faceful of bright white. but i had my surefire in the nifty little pocket of my ninja-royal-robbins pants, which is on the right leg, and i'm not confidant i could have gotten to it without removing my hand from my gun.

so now the surefire will be glued to my left hand.



and yes, i appreciate the irony of my post yesterday about not having that much risk of being mugged. :eek:


post script : guess where this happened? within 50 feet of where i was about a year and a half or so ago when shots were fired and bullets whizzed past my head. i think that area must be cursed or something.
 
Or.....walking Through Valley Of The Hookers!

The "JOHN" traffic in that area never ceases to amaze me, the hookers of the several ....ummm, persuasions do have their regulars eh?
Although I'm far from a Prevoite Baptist I still fail to understand how an intelligent person would choose to purchase sexual favors on the streets of Spenard, especially after the last televised police sting!
 
spiffy-ya gotta get a car. walking around is what gets you in these situations.
 
you know, bowman, you mentioned that before, and not that i dismissed the sentiment, but i did remember that you said it as i mulled things over last night.

makes me wonder if some of my encounters with trouble or potential trouble could be avoided, aside from locking myself in my home. i mean, i'm not running with a criminal element. i have no associates or friends or family that are behaving like thugs.

in most of my situations there is one thing that would have made all the difference in the world: a vehicle.
i dont own a car, so i walk just about everywhere. occasionally my roommate will let me use his car but its only for a trip to the store or something like that. but if i did have a vehicle, i'd have never been in those exact places at that exact time that bad things were happening.
 
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