My favorite Self-Deafness gun

[doubleh]

I have never been in an indoor range in my life as there were none available within a reasonable driving distance until recently. We finally had one open within only 20 miles away late last year but I really don't know if I will ever enter it. Their website extoles it's state of the art construction, notes that you have to make an appointment to use it, and has no mention of prices making me guess that it is expensive. #1 grandson wants to give it a try so I may accompany him. More then once will be decided then. Having always been an outdoors person there is something strange attached to shooting indoors to me. All that noise confined to a room puts me off of the idea of being there.

Nice looking revolver by the way. Unuseable by me though. Even 357 magnum is becoming hurtful now.

 

[MichiganCollector]

I saw some ammo for one of those Saturday at a local gunshow -- at the price they wanted, a cylinder-full cost as much as dinner at a pretty swank restaurant. Hope you reload!

When I purchased the gun salesmen asked me if I wanted a box of ammo, I said sure, he gave me box of 12 (I had to edit I wrote 20) rounds and price was $76.00 That was las box I ever bought. Started reloading. Honestly this revolver is reloaders dream. Got to be very careful since you are dealing with extreme pressures. Small mistake and parts will be flying.

 

[Armored farmer]

My first "self-deafness" gun was a ported 357mag.
I forgot to insert my earplugs and fired at a whitetail during Illinois deer season.
It blew bark off of the tree near where the cylinder was rested. It felt like someone had inserted ice picks into my ears until they touched in the center of my little brain. My pants fell down around my ankles.
The part about the pants isn't true, but the rest is!
I traded the ported .357mag for a 45colt Blackhawk 7½".

 

[ACES&8S]

. For home defense, this, for carry, 40 caliber H&K, have better optics on top now.

 

[Riomouse911]

I move down the firing line when somebody whips out a Socom16. If a bunch of AR pistols emerge, Ill usually leave.

SOCOM-16 rifles are awful on the ears! My buddy had one that was just obnoxious, even shooting out in the open. (It was stolen in a burglary years ago.)

I think the guns I have with the sharpest report are a Weatherby Mk V in .300 Wby or a Ruger Super Redhawk .454. Both are pretty darn loud.

Stay safe.

 

[sparkyv]

Couldn't afford to otherwise!

I saw some ammo for one of those Saturday at a local gunshow -- at the price they wanted, a cylinder-full cost as much as dinner at a pretty swank restaurant. Hope you reload!

 

[MichiganCollector]

. For home defense, this, for carry, 40 caliber H&K, have better optics on top now.
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Love your rifle. I hope they start making this kind of magazines again.

 

[Appalachiannative]

This my self deafness gun. Loudest dang thing I've ever shot but I bet it's a whisper compared to that 500!

 

[Mercy Me]

I currenly use hot 38 specials or mild 357 magnums indoors, but I think a 45ACP or mild 45 Colt would be ideal. Big bullets loaded with a mild load. Punch a big hole without busting your eardrums.

 

[Old Hobo]

Often ammunition for hunting handguns use bullets designed to dig deep into LARGE critters. Oops, humans just aren't as thick as s grizzly bear -- so what happens is that in a self-defense scenario the attacking felon shot with one of these rounds is penetrated like butter being cut with a hot knife. The human body provides little resistance, so the bullet sails on through, doesn't expand, then can cause injury to innocent people on down range. Indeed, the bullet could pass through the felon, through a house's exterior wall, on out to the street, through the side of a car, injuring the driver. The walls of homes built in this day and age are pathetically thin. Same with today's auto doors -- they're thin and the metal is a joke.

 

[MichiganCollector]

Often ammunition for hunting handguns use bullets designed to dig deep into LARGE critters. Oops, humans just aren't as thick as grizzly bear -- so what happens is that in a self-defense scenario the attacking felon shot with one of these rounds is penetrated like butter being cut with a hot knife. The human body provides little resistance, so the bullet sails on through, doesn't expand, then can cause injury to innocent people on down range. Indeed, the bullet could pass through the felon, through a house's exterior wall, on out to the street, through the side of a car, injuring the driver. The walls of homes built in this day and age are pathetically thin. Same with today's auto doors -- they're thin and the metal is a joke.

I don't think they stop flying

 

[Old Hobo]

I don't think they stop flying

The laws of physics are what they are.

If I jump in front of a speeding bus and attempt to stop it, the passengers may not even feel the bump as that enormous heavy vehicle crushes me like a graham cracker. So it goes.

 

[MichiganCollector]

The laws of physics are what they are.

If I jump in front of a speeding bus and attempt to stop it, the passengers may not even feel the bump as that enormous heavy vehicle crushes me like a graham cracker. So it goes.

I'd love to test the armored shield that it is sitting on but I don't think I'll get free replacement

 

[Mercy Me]

I started out carrying TDA guns with the safety off, during the live fire portion of a class I took I accidentally engaged the safety on my 6906 and couldn't figure it out in time to finish that portion of the course. It occurred to my that if it had happened in the real world I very likely would have died wondering why my gun wasn't firing. I sold all of my TDA guns within a week and went to SFAs exclusively.

I've had to draw my gun at work multiple times. I have yet to accidentally fire or ever put my finger on the trigger unintentionally.

 

[lightman]

Mine depends on what I'm defending. Day in and day out one of my Glocks is never far from me. If I were defending a position it would probably be an AR.

 

[ACES&8S]

Love your rifle. I hope they start making this kind of magazines again.

Runs like a clock, never jams.

 

[MichiganCollector]

I started out carrying TDA guns with the safety off, during the live fire portion of a class I took I accidentally engaged the safety on my 6906 and couldn't figure it out in time to finish that portion of the course. It occurred to my that if it had happened in the real world I very likely would have died wondering why my gun wasn't firing. I sold all of my TDA guns within a week and went to SFAs exclusively.

I've had to draw my gun at work multiple times. I have yet to accidentally fire or ever put my finger on the trigger unintentionally.

The most scary situation is when you pull trigger unintentionally. In case of S&W 500 revolver it will simply fly out of your hands.

 

[sparkyv]

the attacking felon shot with one of these rounds is penetrated like butter being cut with a hot knife. The human body provides little resistance, so the bullet sails on through, doesn't expand, then can cause injury to innocent people on down range. Indeed, the bullet could pass through the felon, through a house's exterior wall, on out to the street, through the side of a car, injuring the driver.

 

[CavalierLeif]

One of my buddies built an AR 10.5" pistol in 5.56/.223 and put a "cookie cutter" comp on it. It's a flat disc-shaped comp that channels the gasses out the sides.

He claims it helps with recoil, but I'm always aware to stay away from being around his sides when he's shooting it. Thing is deafening, and we shoot outdoors - can only imagine how much louder it would be at indoor range.

 

[natman]

Welcome to the forum!

Ya, the .500 snubby is pretty damn loud for sure. My old boss had one just like yours and we shot it some.

This was my Self-Deafness gun-
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.30 Carbine Blackhawk.
It also doubled as a flare gun/ flamethrower.

Yep. I was at the range once where a guy at the other end of the line had a 30 Carbine Blackhawk. When he touched one off, my reaction was "What the *@&#$ was that!!". The fireball was pretty impressive too.

 

[.38 Special]

One of our local indoor ranges allows rifles of up to .338 Lapua, so some folks can get pretty noisy. It was my habit to pack my 4" .500, which normally would stay in the bag but would get brought out if a neighbor pulled out a particularly obnoxious rifle. I've still never seen or heard anything as outrageous, at an indoor range, as a .500 case full of H110 fired through a compensator.

Those fun times have come to an end, though, as I finally found a "blank" to replace the comp. I never noticed the comp to do anything besides adding noise and flash (at least with the heavy cast bullets that I prefer) and now find the gun significantly more pleasant to shoot.

 

[riverats]

Yep. I was at the range once where a guy at the other end of the line had a 30 Carbine Blackhawk. When he touched one off, my reaction was "What the *@&#$ was that!!". The fireball was pretty impressive too.

Prior to joining a gun club, most all my indoor shooting was done at a local gun shop/range.

Having recently acquired a 30 Carbine NMB, I took it to said range & when queried about my chamberings, I said, 357 Sig; 38 Super & 30 Carbine. The associate says, no rifles allowed on the range, to which I replied, the 30's a smoke wagon!

I was told to wait while he went to talk with the shop owner. Owner comes back & tells me that they don't allow 30 Carbines because they're distracting flame throwers that are far too NOISY! So I ask, How about my 500 S&W revolver, are those okay? He said, Yes, those are allowed here. I laughed out loud, thanked him & drove to a different range.

500 S&W - 44 Mag - 30 Carbine

 

[MichiganCollector]

Prior to joining a gun club, most all my indoor shooting was done at a local gun shop/range.

Having recently acquired a 30 Carbine NMB, I took it to said range & when queried about my chamberings, I said, 357 Sig; 38 Super & 30 Carbine. The associate says, no rifles allowed on the range, to which I replied, the 30's a smoke wagon!

I was told to wait while he went to talk with the shop owner. Owner comes back & tells me that they don't allow 30 Carbines because they're distracting flame throwers that are far too NOISY! So I ask, How about my 500 S&W revolver, are those okay? He said, Yes, those are allowed here. I laughed out loud, thanked him & drove to a different range.

500 S&W - 44 Mag - 30 Carbine

I spend long time searching for this

One of our local indoor ranges allows rifles of up to .338 Lapua, so some folks can get pretty noisy. It was my habit to pack my 4" .500, which normally would stay in the bag but would get brought out if a neighbor pulled out a particularly obnoxious rifle. I've still never seen or heard anything as outrageous, at an indoor range, as a .500 case full of H110 fired through a compensator.

Those fun times have come to an end, though, as I finally found a "blank" to replace the comp. I never noticed the comp to do anything besides adding noise and flash (at least with the heavy cast bullets that I prefer) and now find the gun significantly more pleasant to shoot.

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Wood grips look nice on your revolver. I wanted to change rubber grips to wood but if I go to the range I'll shoot a minimum of 50 rounds and wood grips will be unbearable. This gun can cause serious damage if you shoot hot loads in large quantities. It happened to me, I couldn't shake anyone's hand for a week.
Another reason I really wanted to find that blank replacement part, it creates a circular flash instead of a big fireball. Now S&W made a version without a compensator and I'm thinking of getting that one too.

 

[.38 Special]

I spend long time searching for this

Wood grips look nice on your revolver. I wanted to change rubber grips to wood but if I go to the range I'll shoot a minimum of 50 rounds and wood grips will be unbearable. This gun can cause serious damage if you shoot hot loads in large quantities. It happened to me, I couldn't shake anyone's hand for a week.
Another reason I really wanted to find that blank replacement part, it creates a circular flash instead of a big fireball. Now S&W made a version without a compensator and I'm thinking of getting that one too.

The wood grips are comfortable - they were made to my hand tracing - up to fairly stout recoil. When approaching full power with the gun, though, the stock rubber grips go back on. I really hate the way they look, but they do work!

I think the 4" barrel is a mistake, compounded by the compensator - really, it is a 3" barrel with an inch of loudener tacked on. I believe the gun looks and performs better with a 5" unported barrel - John Ross had it exactly right, and I still don't understand why S&W doesn't make that gun a regularly cataloged item.

 

[lemaymiami]

I've always thought a handgun was what you used while you were going to something better (in my case, over many years it was a standard pump riot gun...). Still I have been in the vicinity of very loud reports (the worst was a 175 cannon that some enterprising souls set up near the hooch I was sleeping in - and touched it off around midnight... It literally removed me from my GI bed and onto the floor where I huddled up thinking we had incoming... No I was not a combat type - and very glad of it...

Instead of the noise that one weapon or another provides the thing that got me early on was the recoil between different handguns.. As a novice shooter with my post's pistol team I was allowed to use one of their pistol boxes... It contained a Gold Cup 45, a Smith 38 target pistol, and a High Standard 22 target pistol if memory serves.. The most practical exercise for me - all those years ago was to send a clip's worth of 45 downrange then alternate with that 22... Watching the terrible flinch that showed clearly when the 22 was in use was a serious eye opener... Many years later in law enforcement that lesson was very handy... but I'm betting that I'd still be anticipating the recoil of a .45...