My Next Gun: Sig 226 vs. CZ 75 SP-01
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SIG-226 is far superior then an CZ ever made or perhaps will be made. You simply can not go wrong with Sig. CZ has its reputation, but it does not compete with the first tier of pistols.
Without any reservations I recommend SIG. Check out the following article on SIG:
http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/model/226/226.htm
Without any reservations I recommend SIG. Check out the following article on SIG:
http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/model/226/226.htm
Shadow1198
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The CZ75 SP-01 is roughly 1/2 lb heavier than the P226 judging by the empty weights listed on each manufacturer's website. One thing I'd like to point out is, due to the steel frame and full length rather monolithic style of the dust cover on the SP-01, it seems much of the weight is focused on the frame and front end of the gun. For the average shooter, such as myself, this is a nice benefit as minor faulty movements will tend to affect the muzzle less and in turn throw your shots off less. I shot a SP-01 over the weekend, and I have to say I was incredibly impressed. Maybe it was just the weight but I was shooting much tighter groups than I normally do and was taking less time to do so than I normally do. With some of my other guns like my P220 (alloy frame, ~0.6lbs lighter than the SP) and HK P9S, it takes me a bit more effort to try and squeeze the same accuracy out of them due to the lighter weight and where the weight is located. While I fully realize that guns like my P9S are much more accurate (mechanically speaking) then the SP-01, I find that I am able to shoot the SP-01 a bit better with much less effort. I'm still learning and am relatively an amateur so I realize I need improvement but, there is something to be said for having a gun that just makes the task plain simple with minimal fuss. I will eventually be buying an SP-01 when I can afford it, though that doesn't mean I will stop improving my own skills either! 
You can't go wrong with either gun as they are both high quality. Choose the one you are most comfortable with IMO.
You can't go wrong with either gun as they are both high quality. Choose the one you are most comfortable with IMO.Hmmm, I went pistol shopping today and came home with a CZ-75-B.
I had enough in the budget for the Sig 226 and handled one today.
In fact, the decision was Sig 226 or CZ. I didn't see or see anything the Sig had over the CZ that I wanted.
And yes indeed the trigger on the new CZ was rough and gritty but they also had a well-used rental there to try. That trigger broke like glass. All it needs is to be shot a lot.
I'm very happy with CZ. I put some Hogue finger grips on it and will shoot it tomorrow. I need to break that trigger in.
schmeky
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Firepower,
I respect your opinion, but it may be a stretch to say the Sig is far superior to the CZ. As I stated, I own both. If forced to make a choice, I would keep my SP-01. It's the most amazing 9mm semi-auto I have ever owned, and I've owned a bunch.
I don't think the CZ is a poor mans Sig, I feel the Sig is a rich mans CZ.
I respect your opinion, but it may be a stretch to say the Sig is far superior to the CZ. As I stated, I own both. If forced to make a choice, I would keep my SP-01. It's the most amazing 9mm semi-auto I have ever owned, and I've owned a bunch.
I don't think the CZ is a poor mans Sig, I feel the Sig is a rich mans CZ.
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rbernie
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I have several each 9mm CZ75Bs and P226s. Between the lot, I would be hard pressed to pick a favorite.
Having said that, pitting the SP01 against the P226 makes it easy - choose the Sig P226. The SP01 is overly bulky; it may work well as a gamer's platform but I find the balance to be very odd and off-putting. Grafting a huge rail onto the steel frame of the CZ75B essentially removes most of the charm (for me) of the pistol.
Having said that, pitting the SP01 against the P226 makes it easy - choose the Sig P226. The SP01 is overly bulky; it may work well as a gamer's platform but I find the balance to be very odd and off-putting. Grafting a huge rail onto the steel frame of the CZ75B essentially removes most of the charm (for me) of the pistol.
1SOW
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Okay, both are great shooters. Both are reliable. Both need some work to be 'special'.
The CZ is less expensive (NOT Cheaper). Aftermarket parts are less expensive
The Sig is lighter and has WAY fewer parts.
If you want a range-USPSA-IPSC gun pick the CZ.
If you want a personal defence gun, I'd buy both, so I could really enjoy shooting at the range with the CZ set up to shoot for fun.
The CZ is less expensive (NOT Cheaper). Aftermarket parts are less expensive
The Sig is lighter and has WAY fewer parts.
If you want a range-USPSA-IPSC gun pick the CZ.
If you want a personal defence gun, I'd buy both, so I could really enjoy shooting at the range with the CZ set up to shoot for fun.
Again, I really don't think the CZ has the build quality of the Sig. It becomes obvious when you actually disassemble the guns to their core parts and look at some of the overspray and unfinished areas of some of the CZ frame. Then again, it's near half the price.
Still, I'd trust my life to my P-01 over anything but my Sig.
Still, I'd trust my life to my P-01 over anything but my Sig.
Spartacus451
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226, better ergonomics and trigger IMO.
customizedcreationz
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I love my 226, most accurate thing I own. Laser beam man !!!
The only areas that are unfinished on the CZ that I own, or have taken apart are wear areas where the paint will just be worn off anyways. Sig does the same thing with the most visible wear area, the top of the chamber that is visible through the ejection port, they polish that. The only thing I would do to those area would be to put some type of anti-friction coating like NP3, or leave it unpainted after a process like Tenifer.
1BLINDREF
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Tough choice.
Both great guns, both built for the long haul, both extremely reliable, both are very accurate, both have the same solid grip feel, both are very durable, both are about the same size.
Buy both
I have both. If I had to choose to keep only one, it would be the Sig.
For me, the Sig "fits" me just a bit better, and I like not having a safety to deal with. I like the balance of the Sig better (its lighter due to the alloy frame. I also shoot my W.German P226 in IDPA. (I'm aslo a Sigaholic
)
If you are on a budget, get the CZ75 (or look at a Beretta 92)
P226 9mms
CZ75 (pre-ban)
Beretta 92FS Inox
Both great guns, both built for the long haul, both extremely reliable, both are very accurate, both have the same solid grip feel, both are very durable, both are about the same size.
Buy both
I have both. If I had to choose to keep only one, it would be the Sig.
For me, the Sig "fits" me just a bit better, and I like not having a safety to deal with. I like the balance of the Sig better (its lighter due to the alloy frame. I also shoot my W.German P226 in IDPA. (I'm aslo a Sigaholic
)If you are on a budget, get the CZ75 (or look at a Beretta 92)
P226 9mms
CZ75 (pre-ban)
Beretta 92FS Inox
i recently solved a similar situation with a cz 75bd. it wasn't without issues. change out hammer spring; dry fire ; more dry fire(use a snap cap); shoot, etc etc. good now but still not my sig 220(9lb/4lb; smooth and crisp); found a sig usa. it was horrible. if i could have found a w.ger or german used 226 that complimented my 220, it would be no contest. for now, the cz will fill my 9mm void--but it is not a german sig replacement.
Kind of Blued
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FWIW, used Sigs are popping up left and right from what I've seen. Police trades and what not I guess.
I've seen about a dozen 226s around here for $500 in the last few weeks. I recently purchased a Bi-Tone P226 .40 with factory lasergrips for $640, which I think was a decent deal.
It seems that a clean Sig with some rounds through it is like a brand new Honda or Toyota that was driven off the lot, around the block, returned, had the oil changed, and the price slashed by 20%.
I've seen about a dozen 226s around here for $500 in the last few weeks. I recently purchased a Bi-Tone P226 .40 with factory lasergrips for $640, which I think was a decent deal.
It seems that a clean Sig with some rounds through it is like a brand new Honda or Toyota that was driven off the lot, around the block, returned, had the oil changed, and the price slashed by 20%.
DougDubya
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1BlindRef - is that rattlesnake skin on that Beretta? Zombie. Oh. My. Goodness. Barbecue! That is sweet!
The CZ-75 is not just "pre-ban" - that's the ORIGINAL style, back before they hooked the trigger guard.
You posts the pretty pictures.
The CZ-75 is not just "pre-ban" - that's the ORIGINAL style, back before they hooked the trigger guard.
You posts the pretty pictures.
skers69
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I have a couple of opinions on this. I had a p226 in 9mm. The sig shot everything I feed it and was a good piece. I found that I had it in the safe more than the range so I sold it. I have a CZ PCR that I like very much...it is my go to gun. I found that the high bore axis on the sig was hurting my accuracy. The CZ is a tack driver and makes me look like a better shooter than I am. Still have the CZ and don't miss the sig...ok maybe a little. Bottom line is they are both good guns that you can trust you life with.
1BLINDREF
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Thanks!
Yes, its Eastern Diamondback rattlesnake. There is a guy on eBay that sells them for just about any gun. That Beretta is a safe queen so I decided to put those grips on it. I don't think that the grips would hold up too well on a gun that was carried or shot much. The scales come off rather easily.
I can't remember when I bought that CZ (CRS syndrome
). I think it was back in the early 90's. I have the original box and papers for it.Here are some more pictures of it.
Im biased towards CZs, mine has been accurate and reliable as anything esle Ive ever owned or fired. Sigs are fine hand guns also, but they are in the "nice but kinda overpriced" catagory to me. And for the so called "gritty factory trigger" on a CZ, two words, snap-caps and dry-firing. You can dry fire it like 2000 times during a episode of lost.
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1BLINDREF
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LOL - is that while aiming at the "Others"
MarcusWendt
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I'm very partial to the P226. I own or have owned, four. Two in 9mm and now I own 2 in .40 S&W.
If you got the Sig Sauer route you won't be sorry. Of that I'm sure.
I do know one guy who shoots his CZ in USPSA and he seems to do well enough with it. they do seem to have a cult following, but I really don't know much about them.
If you got the Sig Sauer route you won't be sorry. Of that I'm sure.
I do know one guy who shoots his CZ in USPSA and he seems to do well enough with it. they do seem to have a cult following, but I really don't know much about them.
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