My Wierd Gun Rant
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tark
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One of the few rifles I have never owned. Would like to get one....but, like you said.....pricey. I have never held one.
tark
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I've seen that video. It's a good one and sums up the rifles problems quite well. ( And they were both numerous and serious.) I wish I could post a pic of mine but this new puter and my I Phone still aren't talking to one another. I'm too computer stupid to figure out why.
Archie
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M1895 Lee Navy rifle: I collect World War One infantry rifles, 7.65 semiautomatics of the same period and starting on sporting rifles. Like Tark, I've never seen one in the 'flesh'. I have the excuse they were never 'officially adopted', but that's just an excuse.
I do have a Ross type 2 (supposedly a version that cannot be assembled incorrectly) but it's been 'sporterized' more than I'd like. But it's the only one I've ever seen.
I do have a Ross type 2 (supposedly a version that cannot be assembled incorrectly) but it's been 'sporterized' more than I'd like. But it's the only one I've ever seen.
Deltaboy1984
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Love the Model 11.
tark
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The Mk. II was the best of the Ross rifles. Sir Charles should have stopped at that point. The bolt cannot be incorrectly assembled.
But Ross was obsessed with creating what he considered to be the ultimate military rifle, in the ultimate military caliber, which to him, meant a .280. And he wanted 3000 FPS with a bullet of around 150 Gr. It is a little known fact that he did his first experiments with a new cartridge the U.S. had just adopted, the 30-03. He had no way of knowing that he practically invented the .280 Remington! But he was unsuccessful in his quest for 3000FPS. The powders at the time were not up to the task. So he designed the 280 Ross Cartridge, which was the world's first cartridge to exceed 3000 FPS, in 1907. It can also be legitimately called the first 7mm Magnum. It fired a 145 gr. bullet @ 3145 FPS. With today's powders, it can be loaded to near 7MM Remington Magnum ballistics.
With his new toy, Sir Charles slightly modified his Mk II action to incorporate a new bolt design, to include seven locking lugs, with an interrupted thread design. Like the Mk II, the bolt head locked up with the lugs in the horizontal position. It came out in 1907 as the "Scotch Deer Stalking " rifle. These guns are extremely rare, I have only seen one in my life.
Not being satisfied with his new creation, Ross designed a new action, the Mk III, also known as the M-10, after the year of its creation. The new rifle was a dismal failure as a military weapon, but was widely acclaimed in it's civilian version, the M-10 Sporting rifle. (Although it wasn't worth a you know what as stopping a charging lion. Long story, won't repeat it here.)
The problem Sir Charles had was this; He never stopped inventing long enough to perfect what he had invented.
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