DeepSouth
Random Guy
I have been planning on buying a small pistol for the wife, so I was inevitably looking at all of the 380's out there. I was leaning heavy toward the Guardian. Then I found THIS article, on their site no less? Now I am reconsidering.
Anyway getting to the point, apart from the malfunctions he had which also causes me concearn, he also said the last round out of the mag almost always jammed, stovepipe I think. With a little reading I found that this common with the Guardian. NAA more or less dismisses it as a non-issue, saying on their web site
So my 2 basic questions for the folks that have first hand experience with this issue is, should this keep me from buying the gun? Apart from this issue is the gun reliable?
Also remember this gun will be bought for my wife who will shoot it rarely, and isn't very familiar with clearing jams. If it get complicated at all she just gets frustrated and then she has nothing to do with the gun, you know the $400 paper weight.:banghead:
Thanks in advanced for the help.
DS
Anyway getting to the point, apart from the malfunctions he had which also causes me concearn, he also said the last round out of the mag almost always jammed, stovepipe I think. With a little reading I found that this common with the Guardian. NAA more or less dismisses it as a non-issue, saying on their web site
Last round
I have read/experienced that the case from the last spent round occasionally gets stuck between the slide and the frame. Is this a product 'failure'? Should I be concerned?
No, frankly, not at all. Yes, we are aware of, and understand the causes of, this condition. Yes, it is not an uncommon occurrence. No, we do not believe it represents a performance failure and we do not intend to try to 'correct' the condition.
The design of this pistol does not include an ejector (not to be confused with an extractor), but relies on the following action of a fresh cartridge, as it is moving up the magazine stack and towards the chamber, to push the spent extracted case out of the breech. When the magazine is empty and there is no following cartridge to exert this pressure, the spent case may simply be trapped by the slide returning forward (the slide is not designed to remain open after the last round).
When a full magazine is inserted to replace the empty one, the slide must, in any/every event ('stovepipe' or not) be re-racked to chamber a fresh round. During this process, the spent case simply falls freely out of the breech and the pistol returns to battery - as though the condition had never existed. (Please note that we are not attempting to excuse any stovepipe of a live round. If that condition exists with any of our pistols, we will be happy to rework the gun to eliminate that failure).
So my 2 basic questions for the folks that have first hand experience with this issue is, should this keep me from buying the gun? Apart from this issue is the gun reliable?
Also remember this gun will be bought for my wife who will shoot it rarely, and isn't very familiar with clearing jams. If it get complicated at all she just gets frustrated and then she has nothing to do with the gun, you know the $400 paper weight.:banghead:
Thanks in advanced for the help.
DS