Never Again (Ouch!!)

[Rockrivr1]

I picked up my new Mossberg 500A from my FFL the other day. It's a nice blued composite stocked 20 inch 7+1 shotgun.

I also picked up some Federal 2 3/4 Tactical OO Buckshot and headed to the range with a buddy of mine. Shooting the Federal was a breeze with a very low recoil and a nice pattern.

As we were shooting it, my friend pulls out a box of 3 inch magnum rifled slugs. I've never shot these before so I loaded up two into the magazine and then toped off the mag with more of the buckshot.

As before the buckshot shot very easily and then I chambered one of the slugs, brought the shotgun to my shoulder and pulled the trigger.

Ok, now I've always thought I've had a high threshold for pain. But that shot brought tears to my eyes as the shotgun slamed into my shoulder and bruised the hell out of it. The kickback was worse then when I shoot my Serbu BFG-50. Holy crap that hurt!!!!!

Does anyone shoot these with any consistancy? How thick is your shooting jacket? lol My buddy thought it was pretty funny and told me to shoot off the second one. I passed.

I have a very nice black and blue right now and it's still sore two days later. Oh well. Live and learn.

Best part was getting a package with the new TacStar heatshield, side saddle and flashlight w/ mount. Shotgun looks Awesome now!

 

[Average Guy]

This definitely calls for pictures.

Of the bruise AND the shotgun.

 

[chevrofreak]

When I sighted in the red dot on my 870 a while back using PMC 1oz slugs at 1600fps, 10 rounds was all my shoulder would let me do. I started flinching so bad from the pain that the group tripled in size.

From a standing position its not near as bad, but dont ever shoot a shotgun from a bench unless you fill your shirt with jello

 

[USMCsilver]

Slugs normally are not that bad out of a smooth bore gun. Having said that, there is quite a difference, IMHO, when shooting 3" slugs out of a rifled barrel. I had a bolt action Mossy slug gun at one time. Nice "rifle" but man oh man, did that thing ever hurt!

 

[HSMITH]

That 500 is awful light, especially since it is ony a 20" barrel. Been there and done that. The added weight of the 590 series guns is a real blessing when shooting full tilt buck and slugs.

You'll get used to the recoil, shoot target loads until you are comfortable, then field loads, then 2 3/4" slugs and after all that doesn't bother you bring out the bigguns.

If you want a real serious education on recoil and the effect it has on your dental work try an 835, better if it is an early one with no porting and the thin recoil pad, shooting some 3.5" high velocity turkey loads.

 

[Bridger]

Vid-cap. Out of my Mossberg 590A1 with 18.5" barrel. I LIKE IT!

T-shirt only too! heh. I shot about 9 rounds in a row with it, my friend who I took shooting shot one and that was enough for him.

I'm looking to get more, but the gun shop I went to didn't have any!

It's not so bad really, but maybe since the flash is so big it's because not all the powder is burning, thus not as much recoil as it could be?

Went back to shooting my AR after that and was surprised that I didn't develop any flinch. Fine with me!

Anyone who doesn't want their 3 inch slugs can give them to me

 

[Dave McCracken]

3" slugs are terrific for pointing out form glitches. There's less painful ways, though.

A couple things that help improve comfort with any hard kicking loads are...

Use the form in the Proper Mounting Techniques thread, lean well into it and REALLY pull the weapon back into you.

Be behind the shotgun, not along side of it. The whole abdomen and backbone act as springs and distribute the kick better.

Big pads help enormously, and they do not have to be just on the shotgun. A PAST or similar pad is a big help for benchtesting and zeroing.

As mentioned, work up to the heavy stuff by degrees. First, though, see if you really need heavy stuff. Most of the time, we do not...

 

[Wakal]

Or shoot reduced recoil slugs and buck in the slide toys, and save the max dram fun for gas op guns.

The only thing my Open shotgun will run is 3 3/4 dram (or better). I run it the same as I do my pistol and rifle when tuning up for 3-Gun...300 rounds a day. In a tee shirt.

Match the load to the gun





Alex

 

[esheato]

If you want a real serious education on recoil and the effect it has on your dental work try an 835, better if it is an early one with no porting and the thin recoil pad, shooting some 3.5" high velocity turkey loads.

Been there, done that...Sat against a concrete wall and patterned some 3.5" turkey loads using my Mossy 835. It only took three shots before I learned my lesson, and I'll NEVER do that again. Thick headed? Nah...

Ed

 

[hartzpad]

I shoot 2.75" and 3" slugs out of my Saiga 12 shottie all the time, but it is the softest-recoiling 12 gauge shotgun I have ever shot and it is a smoothbore w/ a 19" barrel. 3" slugs have kick, but no bruising.

 

[orangeninja]

Believe it or not, a friend of mine and myself spent an afternoon trying to shoot up 25 rounds of 3 inch OO and Slugs from a PISTOL GRIP mossberg 12ga. Now both of us wouldn't admit to the other that we couldn't handle it. So we punished ourselves starting with me. 7 rounds and I wipe the tears from my eyes. He did 7 rounds. I did 3 more and took a break. He did 3. I did 3 more. He did one more. I went to shoot the last one but was having a very hard time getting a firm grip on the gun so I passed. I think all we got was 24 rounds fired. We both were actually were crying out in pain from by the 4th round or so, but to disguise it I would yell out whoopee or somthing like that. I couldn't rotate my wrist for 3 days.


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