"Never let a crisis go to waste"

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Rahm Emanuel said that and it is being proved again. The smoke was still billowing in Boston when TV commentators were making a connection between the president's noble fight for gun control and the violence in Boston. No one actually said "the NRA did it" but a few came close and the usual "we must stop the violence no matter what it takes" folks were out in force.

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It's sad how many news (liberal, go figure) agencies were trying to draw a connection between this bombing and militia groups. They were foaming at the mouth wanting to pin this on domestic terrorists.
 
"we must stop the violence no matter what it takes"
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I see no reason to disagree with this goal. Your issue (and mine) is simply that what you're implying they meant (gun control) is not "what it takes". That does not stop violence. If anything, it simply provides an environment that allows violence to thrive.

Anyway, I don't see this staying open long.
 
I'm concerned because this morning I heard Steve Doocy on Fox ask someone if they thought the bomb used "smokeless gunpowder" because they had commented on the white smoke. Anything that would suggest this was linked to something us reloaders need makes my hair stand up. I wish the media could just act professionally and stop speculating, confirm their information, and provide the facts. Oh, I was watching Fox... never mind.
 
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It's every news organization. They are all terrible. But going after the reloaders is possible. It's another avenue for them to explore. Could even go after the casters because lead hurts the environment. They did that in California. Just so many avenues to be attacked from.
 
This actually might effect us, from watching the explosions on youtube I noticed an awful lot of white smoke, no shock wave, and didn't hear a lot crack along with the boom. Now it was on video and none were very good, but it seems to me that black powder was the explosive. Higher grade explosives don't cause that much white smoke and neither do liquid ones either, at least the ones I have seen go boom. Given that the explosives really didn't cause a great deal of damage I would say they were black powder.
 
If they can just got and buy it in Boston, black powder is a likely choice.
It's a true explosive, versus smokeless powder's slower burn, you can grab it off the shelf at many Wal-Marts, and there's no real measuring to do. Heck, you could just drill a hole in the cap of a can of it and stick a wick in.
On the other hand, if they don't want to be tracked, you can also use plenty of other chemicals, or just make a rough equivalent of black powder from fertilizer.

I sincerely hope that it won't effect us reloaders. I hope this subhuman filth took the tough route and mixed their own. But I'm not ruling out that he bought out the local shop's reloading corner because it's probably the easiest way to do that.
 
I saw a guy on the news speculating on what type of device it could have been.
He said that the least sophisticated device would have been a black powder pipe bomb type thing, and that sophistication went up from there.
He was explaining that the more sophisticated the explosive, the more likely it would be that it was an organized terror group.
When he talked about black powder devices, he used the phrase 'That anyone can get'.
He wasn't being anti-gun, but you can be sure that the antis will pick up on this, especially if it turns out that black powder was indeed used.
 
I've never seen blackpowder at Walmart. Of course that doesn't mean one might carry it. I've seen pyrodex and Triple 7, but they are substitutes and not the same.
 
If it was BP it was more likely home made BP. Mass. has tight laws on the purchase and storage of BP. With their forward thinking gun control statutes on the books their residents can be assured that any of the nasty surprises coming in the future will be a result of home manufacture.
 
Kiln said:
It's sad how many news (liberal, go figure) agencies were trying to draw a connection between this bombing and militia groups. They were foaming at the mouth wanting to pin this on domestic terrorists.
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I'm having flashbacks to 1995 because the same thing happened in the immediate aftermath of the OKC bombing, with the media chomping at the bit to blame the attack on Islamic militants. It's like we don't learn from the past.
 
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Rahm Emanuel said that and it is being proved again. The smoke was still billowing in Boston when TV commentators were making a connection between the president's noble fight for gun control and the violence in Boston. No one actually said "the NRA did it" but a few came close and the usual "we must stop the violence no matter what it takes" folks were out in force.

Jim
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I've already seen wingnuts on other message boards postulate that it was pro-gun forces who planted the bombs...
 
If it was BP it was more likely home made BP. Mass. has tight laws on the purchase and storage of BP. With their forward thinking gun control statutes on the books their residents can be assured that any of the nasty surprises coming in the future will be a result of home manufacture.
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So what you're saying is that someone was willing to blow up men, women and children at the marathon, but he would not have been willing to drive to New Hampshire, Maine or Vermont to buy the powder and then store it illegally?
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