bigalexe
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I got a new gun from a dealer and of course it came with a test-fire casing. Should I bother saving it along with the packet it is in after the first time I fire the gun?
New gun... save the spent casing?
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RimfireChris
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My P22 did. I don't know why, I mean, if they really wanted to prove it worked, ya think they'da sent ten casings, just sayin'. I got it somewhere still, was a CCI, so at least they got good taste.
TheCol.U.S.M.C.
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DO you have to take your new gun (pistol?) to the police department to get one of there "safety checks"
I thought I remeber my buddy how lived in Michigan tell me he had to do that.
If you don't well I have allways thrown the shell out, well now I reload so the last one I got I threw into my brass bin
I thought I remeber my buddy how lived in Michigan tell me he had to do that.
If you don't well I have allways thrown the shell out, well now I reload so the last one I got I threw into my brass bin
mgmorden
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It's there for some jurisdictions which require a fired casing be sent in to the local law enforcement when any handgun in purchased. I've only gotten them with my Rugers (I think for certain other guns you have to provide your own ammo to be fired to obtain such a casing), but firearms laws here are lax so I had no need of the casing. Like TheColUSMC, I just throw it in with the rest of my brass. Didn't keep track of the few that I've gotten, but they may very well still be in the rotation being fired again 
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Geckgo
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SA sends them with XDs too
rozziboy18
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my kimber came with 2 also. i reloaded them!
springfield30-06
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States like NY require a fired case be sent to the State Police to be entered into CoBIS (Combined Ballistic Identification System). By the way, this system has not helped solve any crimes and is basically $$ sinkhole.
CoBIS FAQ
Here's an article that was recently put out by the NY State Rifle & Pistol Association: NYSRPA article on CoBIS
CoBIS FAQ
Here's an article that was recently put out by the NY State Rifle & Pistol Association: NYSRPA article on CoBIS
nalioth
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If you received a fired casing, it's yours to do what you wish with it.
States that require the casing (the reason manufacturers ship them with the gun) required FFLs to pull it prior to the sale so it can be sent to the state police in accordance with that state's law.
States that require the casing (the reason manufacturers ship them with the gun) required FFLs to pull it prior to the sale so it can be sent to the state police in accordance with that state's law.
ColtPythonElite
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I don't see a reason to worry about it. Just leave it in the case and forget about it. If your gun ever becomes collectable it will have value...You'd be surprised how much a paper hang tag from a Colt revolver means to some people.
mgmorden
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You know, I actually felt a bit stupid after reading these posts. I just realized that it's probably more common than I was thinking, but the only handgun brand I've ever purchased brand new have been Rugers. I have lots of others but they were all purchased used so of course I wouldn't have gotten the case even if the company did send them
.bigalexe
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So what it seems is that there is no really pressing reason for me to save the casing once I fire the gun once. The paperwork already went to local PD so that is not an issue.
**One thing I will mention is that I was specifically told when getting my purchase permit (before purchase) is that it is no longer required that you bring in the gun and show it to them. They told me it wasn't required and also were kind of hinting they would prefer me not bringing random guns into the department which is something I can appreciate.
Back on topic though the gun is a 22lr, too bad I can't reload it!
**One thing I will mention is that I was specifically told when getting my purchase permit (before purchase) is that it is no longer required that you bring in the gun and show it to them. They told me it wasn't required and also were kind of hinting they would prefer me not bringing random guns into the department which is something I can appreciate.
Back on topic though the gun is a 22lr, too bad I can't reload it!
pharmer
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The few I have are a wealth of info about the gun. Joe
I keep them in the case. And as said before. There is a wealth of info on that brass and on the envelope. Like the date it was fired. That has to be some what close to it's birth date. Did the striker or firing pin hit center of primer. Is there a firing pin dent with a swipe on it indicating a bad recoil spring right from the factory or a sticking firing pin or striker. Is the rim of the brass buggered up from the ejector or extractor. Or does the pistol in question like to dent brass in any way. I never walk out of a store with a new pistol with out inspecting the brass. It's a good purchase tool. And yes,,,, I have refused to except the pistol. And if the seller wont let me look at it,, I leave.
That fired round is the one that is logged for some law dog's in some states. Heck who knows, maybe all of those bullets are photographed for the finger print on the fired bullet. But in my mind throwing that empty out or reloading it is akin to throwing away the manuals and such that came with your pistol.
Heck here in Oklahoma when you get your drivers lic and you wear glass's they ask you to take them off for your photo. Found out it's so law dog's can run facial ID software on your pic. Yeah know everybody is a bank robber and we can all commit serious crimes in front of security cameras. We must be tracked down yeah know.
That fired round is the one that is logged for some law dog's in some states. Heck who knows, maybe all of those bullets are photographed for the finger print on the fired bullet. But in my mind throwing that empty out or reloading it is akin to throwing away the manuals and such that came with your pistol.
Heck here in Oklahoma when you get your drivers lic and you wear glass's they ask you to take them off for your photo. Found out it's so law dog's can run facial ID software on your pic. Yeah know everybody is a bank robber and we can all commit serious crimes in front of security cameras. We must be tracked down yeah know.
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lemaymiami
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One other minor point about that first casing. If the weapon is in good tune when first purchased and later begins to mis-fire or have other ammo related issues a quick comparison of your current fired brass and the original that came with the gun might show exactly where to look for the problem.
In my early years as a cop (back in the stone age, 1973 to 1978), we were required to carry revolvers and many had them "tuned" "adjusted" or just plain messed with by a variety of folks that claimed to be gunsmiths (very bad idea - I was younger then...). As a result training days always had someone with one malfunction or other - quite often directly attributable to having altered springs or some other foolish thing done in an attempt to make it shoot better. A quick look at fired casings would clearly show if the striker was not hitting the primer properly.... It shows up like a neon sign when you compare the original casing to the current ones in that situation. I'd save the factory casing if I had the opportunity for just that reason.
In my early years as a cop (back in the stone age, 1973 to 1978), we were required to carry revolvers and many had them "tuned" "adjusted" or just plain messed with by a variety of folks that claimed to be gunsmiths (very bad idea - I was younger then...). As a result training days always had someone with one malfunction or other - quite often directly attributable to having altered springs or some other foolish thing done in an attempt to make it shoot better. A quick look at fired casings would clearly show if the striker was not hitting the primer properly.... It shows up like a neon sign when you compare the original casing to the current ones in that situation. I'd save the factory casing if I had the opportunity for just that reason.
bobbo
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Go ahead and keep it... it's like the hang tag.
BTW, just sent an e-mail to my state senator (a pro-gun Republican) asking her to sponsor some legislation to drop the CoIBS in NY. Hey, Albany seems to be all about saving money this week, so why not cut this waste of a program? Could be a tough sell in the Assembly, however.
BTW, just sent an e-mail to my state senator (a pro-gun Republican) asking her to sponsor some legislation to drop the CoIBS in NY. Hey, Albany seems to be all about saving money this week, so why not cut this waste of a program? Could be a tough sell in the Assembly, however.
mgmorden
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Actually, though being a stickler for correct terminology myself in the magazine/clip issue, "casing" can be validly used as a synonym for "case". Though I can't recall ever doing it myself, there's nothing wrong about calling it a casing
.627PCFan
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If you live in a free state, deprime/size, bell, charge and seat
I need to buy more new guns. I've never had a fired case come with any I have bought. Of course all I've bought in 15 years have been rifles and shotguns. I haven't bought a complete handgun from a dealer in going on 30 years.
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I just toss all that crap that comes with them in a manila envelope and stick it with my tax records. If I sell it, I toss it all back in. Gives the new owner that "new gun feeling."
It's sent along with the gun for states like the People's Republic of Maryland, where I live. The FFL must turn them in to the state police upon completion of the purchase. I don't believe any crime has ever been solved by this database of fired cases. It's just another "feel good" law. 
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