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Same here... I've avoided them for years but they are the ONLY stuff that functions 100% in my AA 1911 conversion. and I mean 100%. Zero malfs in about 1500 rounds now. A few duds, but I suppose that can't be helped. But it runs.
New Improved Remington .22 'bulk' ammo
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Clipper
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This is my second BL-22 and it's still pretty new and hasn't fully worn in (less than 100 rounds), and the only anomaly I have had is an occasional failure to fully cock the hammer. It will occasionally take another 1/16" or so of travel to fully cock the hammer. It's probably my own fault, because I have wide hands, but relatively short fingers and I don'r move my thumb on the stock when I flick the lever and I suspect I don't get the lever completely to full stroke. Time will tell, but I'm not having any trouble getting the rounds to chamber.
BTW, my previous (1980s vintage) BL-22 ate 'em without any issues, too.
Viper225
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I bought lots of Golden bullets years ago, and it all worked fine back then. Somewhere over the years the quality seems to have fallen off.
The last 5 Years:
We shoot lots of Semi-Auto Rimfire at our Sportsman's Club. We have a Rimfire Division in our Defensive Pistol Match, and we also have a Rimfire Division in 2 Gun.
The Club Secretary has been running Golden Bullets in a Remington Semi Auto Rifle, and doing fine. The majority of us were running 10-22's, and the Golden Bullets were not running well in them at all. Most all have went to Federal Bulk Pak. About everyone quit Remington rimfire ammo due to jams, and fail to fire issues.
In the last year or two:
Lots of us have been moving to AR Platform 22's. The Club Secretary has moved up to an M&P AR15-22. He is still shooting Remington, and doing fine. Most all others are running Federal or the CCI Tactical load at this time. The Golden Bullets are not being used, as about everyone has already wrote off Remington ammo from shooting problems in 10-22's, and MK III Rugers.
My thoughts.
If you have been shooting bolt actions, pumps, and lever guns, you have probably never had any issues with Remington Golden Bullets. Some semi auto's probably run the Remington ok also. If you shoot Revolvers and some semi auto pistols it might run ok for you.
Most of us shooting Action Matches with 10-22's and Ruger Mk III's gave up on Golden Bullets a long time ago. If it had improved, we might not have noticed. I have no idea how Golden Bullets run in my Tac Sol AR15-22, as I quit buying them several years ago.
I certainly hope the quality has improved with the price increase. I will give them another try.
Bob
The last 5 Years:
We shoot lots of Semi-Auto Rimfire at our Sportsman's Club. We have a Rimfire Division in our Defensive Pistol Match, and we also have a Rimfire Division in 2 Gun.
The Club Secretary has been running Golden Bullets in a Remington Semi Auto Rifle, and doing fine. The majority of us were running 10-22's, and the Golden Bullets were not running well in them at all. Most all have went to Federal Bulk Pak. About everyone quit Remington rimfire ammo due to jams, and fail to fire issues.
In the last year or two:
Lots of us have been moving to AR Platform 22's. The Club Secretary has moved up to an M&P AR15-22. He is still shooting Remington, and doing fine. Most all others are running Federal or the CCI Tactical load at this time. The Golden Bullets are not being used, as about everyone has already wrote off Remington ammo from shooting problems in 10-22's, and MK III Rugers.
My thoughts.
If you have been shooting bolt actions, pumps, and lever guns, you have probably never had any issues with Remington Golden Bullets. Some semi auto's probably run the Remington ok also. If you shoot Revolvers and some semi auto pistols it might run ok for you.
Most of us shooting Action Matches with 10-22's and Ruger Mk III's gave up on Golden Bullets a long time ago. If it had improved, we might not have noticed. I have no idea how Golden Bullets run in my Tac Sol AR15-22, as I quit buying them several years ago.
I certainly hope the quality has improved with the price increase. I will give them another try.
Bob
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The Golden bullet Remingtons have been responsible for several damaged guns recently. Only type to have actually ruptured in my own .22!
What is the "NEW" .22 offering labeled? Part number, specs??
Winchester 555's have proven to be a good bulk ammo. I personally love CCI Stingers.
What is the "NEW" .22 offering labeled? Part number, specs??
Winchester 555's have proven to be a good bulk ammo. I personally love CCI Stingers.
BoilerUP
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I had a Remington Golden Bullet case rupture in my Advantage Arms G19 kit. Didn't hurt the pistol in the least (hit a 6" steel plate @ 30yd with that shot actually) but made me very, VERY wary of them.
Only issue I've seen after putting about 300 down the pipe.
Only issue I've seen after putting about 300 down the pipe.
Charger442
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Remington bulk has been terrible ammo for a while. consistant no-fires, bent cases etc. in three different 10/22s, a Mossberg 51m and a Walther p22. Federal seems to be better, but i dont know much about the Winchester bulk.
Deltaboy1984
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I can hope and pray that Remmy got thier 22 ammo FIXED ! It was so good back in the 1970-80's. It has been hard to watch it go to pot. I buy Federal or Winny for fun and CCI min mags for hunting.
I might give the new ammo a try.
I might give the new ammo a try.
To be honest, I'll let someone else beta test the "new" Remington .22 ammo.
In the past it has been the only 22 ammo that would not function in my Ruger MK1. I couldn't even get through a magazine with it, where it will run through a whole brick of anything else without so much as a hiccup.
With all the decent choices in 22 ammo, why waste my time and money on Remington?
In the past it has been the only 22 ammo that would not function in my Ruger MK1. I couldn't even get through a magazine with it, where it will run through a whole brick of anything else without so much as a hiccup.
With all the decent choices in 22 ammo, why waste my time and money on Remington?
Ignition Override
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Is this ammo much less likely to produce very frequent gas blowbacks than the typical green/yellow box ammo? Thunderbolt is even worse in my rifle.
No kidding here, and no exaggeration. I wish that it were. I threw a handful into the river.
In the nice old Savage rifle, which my grandfather bought in the late 40s or so in or near Jackson MS, about every third round blows gas around my shooting glasses.
During 900 rds. of "Commie" Bulgarian 7.62x54R, it only happened Twice......so why can't "all-American" Remington produce good, cheap .22 ammo?
This .22 gas almost never happens with Federal or Winchester.
No kidding here, and no exaggeration. I wish that it were. I threw a handful into the river.
In the nice old Savage rifle, which my grandfather bought in the late 40s or so in or near Jackson MS, about every third round blows gas around my shooting glasses.
During 900 rds. of "Commie" Bulgarian 7.62x54R, it only happened Twice......so why can't "all-American" Remington produce good, cheap .22 ammo?
This .22 gas almost never happens with Federal or Winchester.
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Rem Gold bulk is the worst .22lr ammo I've used in quantity. Not too accurate and I've had more than a few case failures and duds. CCI bulk has been the best. Accurate stuff and cycles anything. I'll run Rem bulk I get super cheap, otherwise CCI... >12k delived today actually.
smallbore
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The only Remington .22 ammo I buy/use is their Subsonic.
Wow! Remington Goldens are my favorite bulk ammo. I have a Bersa 22.cal that is a very finicky shooter. The gun chokes on any ammo that is not high Velocity. In fact it will not cycle anything else. One day I put some Rem Golds and Bingo. The gun ate them better than the CCI minimags. I find the Rems to even be more accurate and they seem to have a higher charge.
Personally I think it is really not feasible to have a 22.cal that will only eat expensive ammo. I was almost to the point of selling the Bersa, until I got the Rems. I just saw this post about Walmart going to stop selling the Bulk Pak. I noticed that they have been out of stock lately at my local stores.
By the way, my New Ruger SR22 eats any ammo I have put through it. A wonderful pistol. I have over 3000 rds now through the gun and probably have less than 5-7 malfunctions, which I relate to ammo failures. The gun loves bulk Federal, but will eat anything.
Personally I think it is really not feasible to have a 22.cal that will only eat expensive ammo. I was almost to the point of selling the Bersa, until I got the Rems. I just saw this post about Walmart going to stop selling the Bulk Pak. I noticed that they have been out of stock lately at my local stores.
By the way, my New Ruger SR22 eats any ammo I have put through it. A wonderful pistol. I have over 3000 rds now through the gun and probably have less than 5-7 malfunctions, which I relate to ammo failures. The gun loves bulk Federal, but will eat anything.
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For years Remington rimfire ammo was the absolute worst ammo I have ever used. Way too many failures to feed and or eject, misfires, duds, misshaped bullets, and poor accuracy when I did manage to get a few of them to fire, that I completely gave up on them. I have had far better results with Federal and Winchester bulk packs. So all I can say is that it's going to take a whole lot of "new and improved" for me to even think about using Remington bulk packs again.
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351 WINCHESTER
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Remington's famous golden bullet has been junk ammo since I started shooting a .22. That's about 45 years ago. I thought it was normal to have misfires, duds and power levels all over the place in a .22rf until CCI brought out their Stingers in the mid 1970's.
I've never had a misfire with any .22 ammo in any of my guns. I have only had one misshaped bullet. I scratched a blob of gold off the bullet and then it would feed. And before you say something like "then you haven't been shooting long" keep it to yourself. Yes I have.
It seems any ammo is contingent on the gun that shoots it. I love REMINGTON GOLDENS!
I have followed this ammo closely and a lot of guys love it as well. I have a Bersa that will only eat expensive ammo. I use to shoot mostly CCI MINI mags. Then someone recommended the Rem Golds. They worked great! Cycled the gun and even more accurate.The feel like they have more power. I have shot a ton of these hand they work great. I just hope the new and improved are as good. I just bought two boxes and will find out tomorrow
Regards
Dave@vabch
I have followed this ammo closely and a lot of guys love it as well. I have a Bersa that will only eat expensive ammo. I use to shoot mostly CCI MINI mags. Then someone recommended the Rem Golds. They worked great! Cycled the gun and even more accurate.The feel like they have more power. I have shot a ton of these hand they work great. I just hope the new and improved are as good. I just bought two boxes and will find out tomorrow
Regards
Dave@vabch
gbw said:
I very much doubt you'll have a misfire with Remington's "New, Improved" ammunition. If you do, there's a very good chance it's a firearm issue. A cleaner burning powder would be a plus, but the new product is incredibly reliable in terms of ignition.
jimk0512
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I quit buying Remington bulk after the last box of 550 had 12 duds. I tried every one of those duds at least twice in my Ruger 22/45, and they would not fire. Never have that problem with Federal bulk, so I quit buying the Remington bulk. I hope they have improved their quality control.
John Van Gelder
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I have chronographed the Remington bulk ammo and there is quite a variance, but if you are just plinking it is not an issue.
Powerglide
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Federals are my bulk choice.Remingtons last. Lots of Ruger autos and semi long guns in my stable that bear this out. Winchesters seem to be pretty good sometimes.
crracer_712
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I stick to Federal Bulk 550 and CCI Blazer. No issues with either in the 20 22's I have. Only my 597's liked the Golden bullets and nothing much liked the Winchester 333 or 555's.
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