lee n. field
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Looks like internal differences on top of the double stack mag.
(Will watch later)
(Will watch later)
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bannockburn
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lee n. field
Thanks for the preview of the new Kahr X9 double stack. Pretty much the kind of features I would have expected that an updated Kahr micro 9mm. would have. I also like how it can use SIG and Springfield Armory magazines.
Thanks for the preview of the new Kahr X9 double stack. Pretty much the kind of features I would have expected that an updated Kahr micro 9mm. would have. I also like how it can use SIG and Springfield Armory magazines.
someguy2800
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Good to see Kahr moving into the 2000's finally. I'm curious what the new shorter trigger he mentioned will be like and if that will ever translate over to the singe stacks.
unclenunzie
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I notice they have ditched the original Kahr-Style slide stop and D spring arrangement in favor of a sig-style captured lever. That is a real improvement in my opinion, along with the double-stack multi-vendor mag sorcery. I notice the new slide stop is further back which may or may not be a plus, have to try it in hand. By appearance alone it seems ungainly with that RDO and very short grip, I'd like to see it (I'm sure we will) without one mounted. Over all It seem a workable idea, looking forward to the final version(s).
Dan-O
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Not interested. Too late to the party. They couldn’t have chosen a worse person to represent the new line.
It hurts my ears to listen to the review. Too many inconsistencies. I don’t think he really understands the product
It hurts my ears to listen to the review. Too many inconsistencies. I don’t think he really understands the product
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Charlie98
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If the single-stack Kahrs have a weakness... that slide stop is likely it. They aren't a problem... until they really are a problem. My PM9 is sidelined, right now, until I get the new parts installed. Having said that, I've never had a problem with the other 8 Kahrs I've owned, and I don't really know why this one went belly up.
To be honest, I have zero interest in a double-stack Kahr... I really think Kahr's niche is that slim, simple, single-stacker. ...but... I've been wrong before.
Charlie98
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Holy Toledo... you are right on that one!!! I took about 3 minutes of that and had to turn it off.
Dan-O
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He’s a nice guy….., but they shat the bed on that one
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Several doubts with older Kahrs; really stiff recoil springs first among them.
They may be too little, too late with the full size market.
Moon
They may be too little, too late with the full size market.
Moon
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The Firearm Guy has been a vocal Kahr fan for a long time, and I, and many others, enjoy his videos. You can't please everyone all of the time, so every public figure will have their personal group of negative Nancys. It's to be expected. He's a good guy who makes honest videos.
Yes, Kahr is late to the party, but the fact still remains that they're bringing something to the double stack striker-fired party that Glock, S&W, Sig, and the rest can not touch which is Kahr's unique trigger system. When he first broke the news a year ago about there being a new double stack Kahr on the horizon, there was a lot of interest. There are still a lot of hardcover Kahr fans out there who love it's trigger. I'll leave you all to complain though.
Yes, Kahr is late to the party, but the fact still remains that they're bringing something to the double stack striker-fired party that Glock, S&W, Sig, and the rest can not touch which is Kahr's unique trigger system. When he first broke the news a year ago about there being a new double stack Kahr on the horizon, there was a lot of interest. There are still a lot of hardcover Kahr fans out there who love it's trigger. I'll leave you all to complain though.
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I like Kahrs. Have six and have had no problems with any of them. I prefer snubs, but will carry a Kahr if it fits my clothing better.
The trigger is like a revolver trigger and there's no pesky safety. They're nice and flat. I shoot them well for something that small.
Not so sure if I'm interested in another small double-stack. I already have one (GX4) I like and keep in the console on road trips. I would have to like the Kahr quite a bit better.
The trigger is like a revolver trigger and there's no pesky safety. They're nice and flat. I shoot them well for something that small.
Not so sure if I'm interested in another small double-stack. I already have one (GX4) I like and keep in the console on road trips. I would have to like the Kahr quite a bit better.
I own a CM9 and CM45, both of which I appreciate. I don't see a big draw for me from what was presented in the video. I value small for easily carrying. With the new double stack Kahr having a longer barrel than a P365 or Hellcat it doesn't have a size advantage. I like Kahr triggers but I have no problem with my Hellcat trigger and don't see anything in the video that would compel me to buy the new Kahr. I do applaud Kahr for having the guts to support magazines from other manufactures!
But a lot of what make a pistol good is hard to convey in writing or even in videos... so who knows, it might be a gem when it is finally released.
But a lot of what make a pistol good is hard to convey in writing or even in videos... so who knows, it might be a gem when it is finally released.
DeepSouth
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I’m a bit of a Kahr fan, but that checks zero of my boxes. Hopefully others will like it and it will be successful, but I want be buying one.
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I really can't believe Kahr waited so long to make a higher capacity version. The P365 was released six years ago and the PM9/CM9 have long been surpassed by those and the other modern competitors. It just seemed like Kahr took a decade long vacation and now they're introducing something when the market is pretty flooded with equivalent and proven options. I think they forfeited a ton of sales opportunity and the X9 still isn't released yet. And furthermore, Kahr already had a very compact firearm design with a metal mag so it doesn't seem like it should have taken longer to widen the grip every so slightly and design one of these newer high-capacity magazines to fit the new volume.
I didn't watch every second of the video but I don't think he had a Kahr mag with the gun. I think it's dumb for Kahr to let that gun appear on Youtube without the Kahr magazine. The mag interchangeability is interesting but I want to know what the OEM mag looks like (possibly with flush and extended base plate) and what the capacity is for those options.
I think TFG is an okay guy but that also strikes me as a very amateurish way to reveal a long-overdue firearm.
I didn't watch every second of the video but I don't think he had a Kahr mag with the gun. I think it's dumb for Kahr to let that gun appear on Youtube without the Kahr magazine. The mag interchangeability is interesting but I want to know what the OEM mag looks like (possibly with flush and extended base plate) and what the capacity is for those options.
I think TFG is an okay guy but that also strikes me as a very amateurish way to reveal a long-overdue firearm.
Charlie98
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Not complaining... just observing. I am a HUGE fan of the Kahr trigger, I'm not such a fan of most double-stack autos, and particularly those that half the grip comes away with the magazine, let alone the cheese grater frame. That's me, making an observation.
Quite true. Funny story... I actually bought my first Kahr, a CW9, with the intention of NOT liking it... it was my first poly frame, and my first 9mm in many years. I bought it because it was cheap, so that after I decided I hated poly pistols, and, of course, the 9mm is no match for the .45, I would sell it off and not be out much money. My, how the fickle finger of fate can change things...
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Having textured slip resistant frames is what 98% of polymer framed handguns have because it's what 98% of the market wants. The current prototype seemed to be in subcompact configuration. It's no different than Glock 26, M&P 2.0 sc, CZ P10sc, Sig P320 sc, so on and so forth. Heck, it's better than the P365, Hellcat, and other staggered stacked micro 9mm(s). It's meant to prioritize concealment. I am sure that, just like Kahr's single platform and every other manufacturer's platform, Kahr will offer different sized grips and barrel lengths for people to choose from. I highly doubt they'll release one size only double stack only.
Charlie98
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I was talking about the railed frame, not necessarily the texture. It makes finding a holster to fit a bit of a chore.
I think their greatest shortcoming is the retaining button for the floor plates of their magazines. Hopefully they've changed that.
I like the Kahr triggers. I would rather have this new Kahr double-stack than the SIG SAUER P365. I'd rather have a full-sized Kahr double-stack than a Glock 17.
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What's wrong with the floor plate? I have several 9mm and 40s&w mags. The only issue I've had with the mags is the infamous round that will strip off the top if not secured in a mag holster. I recall there being an issue with the followers breaking too, but I Kahr fixed that with a metal insert.
Anchorite
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I almost never see a Kahr in the wild. They just aren’t around my neck of the woods, but I’ve always been intrigued at their operation (long trigger like a DA revolver) and want to test drive one first, before possibly purchasing.
I agree that they waited forever to upgrade their line, and with all the competitors already out, I have to wonder how they can even remain in business, much less profitable.
unclenunzie
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An easy fix is to take the (metal) retaining plate onto a bench block and hit the inside of the button with a punch. Just enough to create a slight catch point for the floor plate.
With most floor plates you have to depress the retaining part, but many of the Kahr magazine plates can be removed just by the floor plate being pushed forward - so that retaining button is not really retaining the plate. It happens much more easily with an unloaded magazine than when the magazine is loaded, but the plate is being held in place by spring pressure and friction - not the kittle nub of a button.
I just slid the floor plate off of my CM9 magazine right now without depressing the button at all.
I don't think it's too big of a deal, Its not going to cause a malfunction, but I did lose a locking plate when I went to take the floor plate off and it caught me by surprise how easily and quickly it came off.
I just slid the floor plate off of my CM9 magazine right now without depressing the button at all.
I don't think it's too big of a deal, Its not going to cause a malfunction, but I did lose a locking plate when I went to take the floor plate off and it caught me by surprise how easily and quickly it came off.
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Charlie98
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My CW mags are fine... it's the CM mags with the pinky hook, etc, that are the problem. I've never had a CW mag plate come loose.
