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Well, finally got to shoot it today!
Let me just say I was a bit scared at first, I think I've been reading too much about it! The first round of 158 grain standard pressure Blazer loads I shot was very mild! The only other snub revolvers I've shot before were heavier guns, in the 22-25 oz range, so I wasn't sure what to expect. I was pleasantly surprised by the lack of recoil. They were very controllable and did not hurt at all.
Five rounds of standard pressure down, now for my "practice" ammo- 158 grain Blazer +P rounds. More recoil, definitely a slight sting in the web of the hand, but again, still very managable, follow up shot time was hardly any different than with the standard pressure rounds. I proceeded to shoot a whole box of these, I got them for my practice ammo because I had been planning to carry the Buffalo Bore 158 grain +P FBI loads- I'm not sure I want to use this round any more!
Once I had gotten through the box I shot my "carry" rounds- the Buffalo Bore ammo. Um, WOW. These babies have some zip to them. Recoil was pretty massive. With the Blazer ammo I was grouping about 8" at 21' (shooter still needs lots of work, more on that later). I shot 4 of these and they were pretty much all over the paper. I left a fifth round unfired to see if there was any separation of the round, and there was-
The one on the left is the unfired round. It's not much, still cleared the end of the cylinder with plenty of room to spare- is this much crimp jump a problem?
Anyways overall impression was good, I like the way it shoots, it seems accurate (hard to tell when the shooter sucks) and the recoil wasn't too bad at all (except for with the BB rounds
). That said my hand is pretty sore! I think I'll stick with standard pressure rounds for practice. I'm going to get a box of the Double Tap 125 grain ammo for carry I think, as opposed to the BB stuff- any thoughts on that?
Finally, I really suck at DA shooting. I was able to get spectacularly tight groups with this gun when stacking the trigger. It hits pretty much point of aim at 21' with the 158 grain ammo, and I could get groups of about 4" without difficulty. But when attempting to shoot it without stacking the trigger, I was lucky to hit the paper sometimes. I was all over the place. What is the secret technique to good "Double Action" shooting? Lots of dry fire practice? What else?
Well, finally got to shoot it today!
Let me just say I was a bit scared at first, I think I've been reading too much about it! The first round of 158 grain standard pressure Blazer loads I shot was very mild! The only other snub revolvers I've shot before were heavier guns, in the 22-25 oz range, so I wasn't sure what to expect. I was pleasantly surprised by the lack of recoil. They were very controllable and did not hurt at all.
Five rounds of standard pressure down, now for my "practice" ammo- 158 grain Blazer +P rounds. More recoil, definitely a slight sting in the web of the hand, but again, still very managable, follow up shot time was hardly any different than with the standard pressure rounds. I proceeded to shoot a whole box of these, I got them for my practice ammo because I had been planning to carry the Buffalo Bore 158 grain +P FBI loads- I'm not sure I want to use this round any more!
Once I had gotten through the box I shot my "carry" rounds- the Buffalo Bore ammo. Um, WOW. These babies have some zip to them. Recoil was pretty massive. With the Blazer ammo I was grouping about 8" at 21' (shooter still needs lots of work, more on that later). I shot 4 of these and they were pretty much all over the paper. I left a fifth round unfired to see if there was any separation of the round, and there was-
The one on the left is the unfired round. It's not much, still cleared the end of the cylinder with plenty of room to spare- is this much crimp jump a problem?
Anyways overall impression was good, I like the way it shoots, it seems accurate (hard to tell when the shooter sucks) and the recoil wasn't too bad at all (except for with the BB rounds
). That said my hand is pretty sore! I think I'll stick with standard pressure rounds for practice. I'm going to get a box of the Double Tap 125 grain ammo for carry I think, as opposed to the BB stuff- any thoughts on that?Finally, I really suck at DA shooting. I was able to get spectacularly tight groups with this gun when stacking the trigger. It hits pretty much point of aim at 21' with the 158 grain ammo, and I could get groups of about 4" without difficulty. But when attempting to shoot it without stacking the trigger, I was lucky to hit the paper sometimes. I was all over the place. What is the secret technique to good "Double Action" shooting? Lots of dry fire practice? What else?
'Scuse my ignorance, but how exactly does a pocket holster work? What keeps it in your pocket when the handgun comes out? I assume you don't sew it in....
At least with the Nemesis the outer surface has a "sticky" texture to it that helps it bind to your pocket. Also, the shape of the holser helps, the flap that extends beyounf the trigger guard. But, work it does.
As to accuracy and DAO shooting, I do a lot of DAO and I have found that finger placement on the trigger is absolutely critical. A good starting point is right at the first joint in from the fingertip. Each gun seems to have a sweet spot.
You might try a grip where you place the thumb of your support hand over and on top of the web of your shooting hand. That grip braces the gun a little better. I believe it is demonstrated somewhere on the S&W site, but can't remember. This is a good grip, for me, with the small snubbies, but do not use it when shooting a semi auto.
LOL. I was shooting my LCR with that grip, and then switched to my Walther PPS, and forgot to change the grip. Was really surprised when the slide bit the joint in my thumb
I emailed XS sights a few months ago and they said they couldn't find +p ammo to test thier night sights with. Emailed them a couple of weeks ago asking if they had done their testing yet and didn't get a response.
Nothing yet. I'd be surprised if someone didn't come out with a replacement soon...
This is the link showing the different revolver grip methods by the great Jerry Miculek. He demonstrates the "thumb over" during the snubbie grip section. I can attest that this method is awesome at reducing felt recoil. My wife uses this grip method when shooting her LCR and she does not complain at all about recoil, even when firing +P rounds.
http://www.myoutdoortv.com/pdk/web/smith.html?feedPID=00zG15zm84msK0GbWemanhJ0KNWQYqM4
http://www.myoutdoortv.com/pdk/web/smith.html?feedPID=00zG15zm84msK0GbWemanhJ0KNWQYqM4
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