padd54
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I hope you guys realize, most of the responses in thread were B.S. making fun of one persons die hard support foe this poc. 
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Just wondering if you have ever tried one to justify your opinion.
People just making comments without knowing what they are talking about doesn't help anyone. This is why I revived this thread to start with is because it was mostly people with stupid comments that had no clue. I just want to offer my experience for people seeking truth not perception from someone with no experience. I have used a $80 Center Point for a few years & prefer it over my $200+ Bushnell. So far no problems with the NOS.
Just wondering if you have ever tried one to justify your opinion.
People just making comments without knowing what they are talking about doesn't help anyone. This is why I revived this thread to start with is because it was mostly people with stupid comments that had no clue. I just want to offer my experience for people seeking truth not perception from someone with no experience. I have used a $80 Center Point for a few years & prefer it over my $200+ Bushnell. So far no problems with the NOS.
dho3
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Plenty of people have posted their experience with this Chicom pos. I have no experience with them because I do not buy anything made in China unless forced due to logistics. In addition, when presented with an optic that promises everything for next to nothing and it is made in China it is sure to be a disaster. If you truly have had great luck with your Osprey, then good for you and I hope you continue to have the same.
OldmanFCSA
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I bought 3 of the Osprey 10x40x50 scopes just to try for fun.
2 are mounted on AR-15 rifles with 16" bull barrels - complete overkill.
But they have been working fine on the no-recoil guns.
I did center the turret caps and re-tightened evenly said set-screws.
Way-TOO-MUCH magnification for my needs.
At a 50BMG shoot last fall, another shooter had his NightForce 5.5x22NSX fail. He wanted to shoot so I gave him my backup scope, the 3rd Osprey 10x40x50, new in box.
I had peeled off the Made In China sticker before. After mounting, we shot 1 round at 100 approx yards, re-set rifle to point of aim, then turned turrets to point of impact, fired another round, dead on point of aim. Then spun in 26.5 MOA and reshot at 1000 yards at dusty berm. Repeated sight-in as stated above. On target in 4 shots. He completed the shoot, over 250 rounds fired thru his 50BMG in 2 days of shooting. He loved the scope. Wanted to buy it. I said $200 (I had paid $168 from Midway plus shipping). Fastest $200 he ever spent. When I gave him the box - complete reversal on opinion - he didn't want any of that cheap Chinese junk on his rifle - he damaged it ripping it off his rifle so fast. I refused at that point to give him his money back. He blasted me for trying to sell him junk. I pointed out that his Nightforce had failed with less than 100 rounds thru it - granted it has proven warranty - and that this Osprey had allowed him to complete the shoot with over 200 rounds thru it - that it worked great for him - that it could still work great for him if he replaced the mount that he damaged during his rant.
Last I heard - he put different rings on it and is still using it on his 50BMG but has removed all the Osprey markings so it looks more "tactical". His NightForce has been repaired and is his backup at this point, mainly because he did not understand how I was able to sight-in his rifle so easily.
I bought Osprey's mainly for this purpose - to recover from a failure while at a Match.
I use 3 Leupolds on my 50's all 8.5X25X50 Mark IV's - 2 of the Illuminated only because that was the model that was quickly available at time of purchase ($1260 to $1400 each). Hundreds of rounds thru each, all working great!
The Osprey used after a failure worked perfectly for its intended purpose.
Would I buy one for full-time use? NO - I will stick with proven Leupold scopes. But I will keep one with me just in case - even if I have to steal it off of one of my AR-15's.
I may be a newbie here but I have been shooting for over 48 years now with no end in sight. At age 10 my first rifle was a Winchester model 260 lever action 22LR. I found another in mint condition a few years ago, bought it, then my daughter claimed it as hers! She enjoys shooting the 50's also - so I have the best shooting partner!!!
2 are mounted on AR-15 rifles with 16" bull barrels - complete overkill.
But they have been working fine on the no-recoil guns.
I did center the turret caps and re-tightened evenly said set-screws.
Way-TOO-MUCH magnification for my needs.
At a 50BMG shoot last fall, another shooter had his NightForce 5.5x22NSX fail. He wanted to shoot so I gave him my backup scope, the 3rd Osprey 10x40x50, new in box.
I had peeled off the Made In China sticker before. After mounting, we shot 1 round at 100 approx yards, re-set rifle to point of aim, then turned turrets to point of impact, fired another round, dead on point of aim. Then spun in 26.5 MOA and reshot at 1000 yards at dusty berm. Repeated sight-in as stated above. On target in 4 shots. He completed the shoot, over 250 rounds fired thru his 50BMG in 2 days of shooting. He loved the scope. Wanted to buy it. I said $200 (I had paid $168 from Midway plus shipping). Fastest $200 he ever spent. When I gave him the box - complete reversal on opinion - he didn't want any of that cheap Chinese junk on his rifle - he damaged it ripping it off his rifle so fast. I refused at that point to give him his money back. He blasted me for trying to sell him junk. I pointed out that his Nightforce had failed with less than 100 rounds thru it - granted it has proven warranty - and that this Osprey had allowed him to complete the shoot with over 200 rounds thru it - that it worked great for him - that it could still work great for him if he replaced the mount that he damaged during his rant.
Last I heard - he put different rings on it and is still using it on his 50BMG but has removed all the Osprey markings so it looks more "tactical". His NightForce has been repaired and is his backup at this point, mainly because he did not understand how I was able to sight-in his rifle so easily.
I bought Osprey's mainly for this purpose - to recover from a failure while at a Match.
I use 3 Leupolds on my 50's all 8.5X25X50 Mark IV's - 2 of the Illuminated only because that was the model that was quickly available at time of purchase ($1260 to $1400 each). Hundreds of rounds thru each, all working great!
The Osprey used after a failure worked perfectly for its intended purpose.
Would I buy one for full-time use? NO - I will stick with proven Leupold scopes. But I will keep one with me just in case - even if I have to steal it off of one of my AR-15's.
I may be a newbie here but I have been shooting for over 48 years now with no end in sight. At age 10 my first rifle was a Winchester model 260 lever action 22LR. I found another in mint condition a few years ago, bought it, then my daughter claimed it as hers! She enjoys shooting the 50's also - so I have the best shooting partner!!!
I just joined because of what I was reading about crappy scopes and where they were put together. Well Nikon is assembled in Philippines and most of the rest of the cheap scopes barska and the rest are assembled in China. Hey I have a few osprey scopes and they do me justice, I have a few Dark Ops scopes and they do the same for me so my question is do you think just because it cost more it's better. Boy if that's the way you think you'll always overpay for everything.
dho3
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So you believe if you pay less then you get an equally good product. You are right, those Osprey scopes with the 3M adhesive will take a beating like a RPG strike and keep zero to a 1000 yards. I think I will order one.
Oh contrare mon buddy, top of the line Bushnells are made in Japan while bottom of the line models are made in China.
Oh contrare mon buddy, top of the line Bushnells are made in Japan while bottom of the line models are made in China.
SentinelStrategic
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By this comment, one could presume to claim that a Zeiss Hensoldt or Schmidt&Bender PMII is no better than an Osprey or DarkOps/CounterSniper/<deleted>. However, those of us with real world knowledge know that to be utter nonsense. With optics, you will always get what you pay for. Experts agree to this fact.Choice said:
And while we're here, can you please explain to me what exactly Bertrillium Zantitium is? I can't seem to find it on the Periodic Table.
Which ones?Choice said:
Exactly.dho3 said:
How did it fail? Did the factory give him any information on what went wrong with the scope? I would be curious as to the factory's explanation, because I've seen some NF scopes abused beyond reason and still come out working like Swiss watches. It's very strange that one would fail, and given my experience with them, it's a freak occurrence.OldmanFCSA said:
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Pat C.
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Well Im new here And going to say sorry to the adminastrator right now!! I have read this hole thread and must say this sit is just like most . 10% of the people know what their talking about , and the rest are full of <deleted>! It seams that when someone asks a question about somthing , if youve never used it Keep your mouth shut. Its not real helpful when someone says it's junk and don't know what their talking about. And for thoughs that use $1000.00 scopes thats great I can't afford one. And don't realy need one. Too thoughs that were helpful and honest on this thread Thankyou!! As for the rest of you your a bunch of frikkin IDIOTS!! Pat C.
Well Im new here And going to say sorry to the adminastrator right now!! I have read this hole thread and must say this sit is just like most . 10% of the people know what their talking about , and the rest are full of <deleted>! It seams that when someone asks a question about somthing , if youve never used it Keep your mouth shut. Its not real helpful when someone says it's junk and don't know what their talking about. And for thoughs that use $1000.00 scopes thats great I can't afford one. And don't realy need one. Too thoughs that were helpful and honest on this thread Thankyou!! As for the rest of you your a bunch of frikkin IDIOTS!! Pat C.
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SentinelStrategic
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Please qualify this statement with more information, facts or experience that would support your position. Explain who is saying what, and what is wrong with what they are saying.Pat C. said:
If you can't, than you are the one talking out of your ass.
Frankly, it seems like you are defensive because you can't afford a mid-level $1000 scope and it's making you upset because you have become emotionally invested in something you own or want to own, and departed from factual objective reasoning.
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Pat C.
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Please read intire Thread!!
SS it is quit apparnt you didn't read the intire thread!! Page 2,3 ,5 all have BS statements And thats what I found at a quik glance!! Now as for me being jelous about not having a $1000.00 mid range scope , I think I posted I DON'T NEED ONE!!! Hello !! If you posted something helpful Then Thank you. If not then maybe it's your one of the latter!! My point is if someone asked about somthing theres a good chance they need help, And a bunch of BS remarks don't help!! Good Day
SS it is quit apparnt you didn't read the intire thread!! Page 2,3 ,5 all have BS statements And thats what I found at a quik glance!! Now as for me being jelous about not having a $1000.00 mid range scope , I think I posted I DON'T NEED ONE!!! Hello !! If you posted something helpful Then Thank you. If not then maybe it's your one of the latter!! My point is if someone asked about somthing theres a good chance they need help, And a bunch of BS remarks don't help!! Good Day
I'd agree that if you don't have any experience you shouldn't chime in UNLESS you've done extensive research for yourself and/or others and you have that real effort to share. If you've just read something once or twice, it's gossip, not research.
Panhead-52
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I have the 10x40x50 it is on a Bushmaster AR-M4 16in b.
this scope has worked ok for me out to 100 yd. so far it holds zero ,mag after 35 power is a little fuzzy,I have put about 600 rds. down range not a bad scope for 140.00.This scope is not as good as my Luepold but at less then 2/3 the cost it`s not bad.
I have the 10x40x50 it is on a Bushmaster AR-M4 16in b.
this scope has worked ok for me out to 100 yd. so far it holds zero ,mag after 35 power is a little fuzzy,I have put about 600 rds. down range not a bad scope for 140.00.This scope is not as good as my Luepold but at less then 2/3 the cost it`s not bad.
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fallout mike
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So it still continues. All the big supporters of these great scopes is brand new members.
fallout mike
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Pat, your statement is, uh, lacking coherence. The reason for the entire thread was not for someone asking a question. It was to promote a new line of scopes. And then several people talked about their experience. The hilarious part is that immediately we read posts about how great they were from many people who were posting their first post. Almost as if they work for osprey or something. So, your issue is with the people that had these scopes that fell apart and posted about it and bc of their bad review of it? And yet again from someone that just joined. There are too many knowledgeable people on this site to sell you guys story to.
Pat C.
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Fine Mike Fine Whatever !! Pat C.
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Hello SgtMajor,
I just took delivery from Sportsman Guide of an Osprey Tactical Scope.. So far 30 rounds in 30-06 and things look good.
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fallout mike
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Rem 700 BDL w/new trigger, Osprey 10-40x50 Tactical Scope, Blackhawk Knoxx Light
Rem 700 BDL w/new XMark Pro trigger at 2lb, Osprey 10-40x50 Tactical Scope, Blackhawk Knoxx Axiom Recoil system, temp-cntl system.
All new components assembled, locked and loaded.
Ready to punch out at 500 Yd (457 m).
Ammo -165 Gr Core Lokt @0.339cf, Velocity = 2800fps, Energy = 2819 Ft-Lbs
Perfect atmospheric conditions, Alt=1100 ft, temp=80, cross wind = calm, humidity=17%, Pres 29.92.
500 yd Results = 2 inch groups, at Velocity= 1622 fps, Energy = 1000 ft lbs.
Rem 700 BDL w/new XMark Pro trigger at 2lb, Osprey 10-40x50 Tactical Scope, Blackhawk Knoxx Axiom Recoil system, temp-cntl system.
All new components assembled, locked and loaded.
Ready to punch out at 500 Yd (457 m).
Ammo -165 Gr Core Lokt @0.339cf, Velocity = 2800fps, Energy = 2819 Ft-Lbs
Perfect atmospheric conditions, Alt=1100 ft, temp=80, cross wind = calm, humidity=17%, Pres 29.92.
500 yd Results = 2 inch groups, at Velocity= 1622 fps, Energy = 1000 ft lbs.
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Panhead-52
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If you goto there web site they have info on uesing that system.
If you goto there web site they have info on uesing that system.
Let me throw some petrol on the fire;yup,I went for the BS and ordered one online fr OP.
After getting little response for the delay ,I got one from another vendor. Surprise is that all that I have spoken to ,that have used it, say it IS a good scope FTM.otiac
After getting little response for the delay ,I got one from another vendor. Surprise is that all that I have spoken to ,that have used it, say it IS a good scope FTM.otiac
30% falure!!
And they refused to honor there warranty even refused to acknowledge that they received the items back! Over 1 year and 100 phone calls they still act like they have no clue who I am and have only returned 1 phone call. I suggest you avoid this product. Unless you like dealing with aggravated customers that want there money back !!
30% guys!! save your money buy something better!! heck even ncstar only has had a 5% failure and they are happy to replace there scopes WITH NO COST OR QUESTIONS ASKED!!
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And they refused to honor there warranty even refused to acknowledge that they received the items back! Over 1 year and 100 phone calls they still act like they have no clue who I am and have only returned 1 phone call. I suggest you avoid this product. Unless you like dealing with aggravated customers that want there money back !!
30% guys!! save your money buy something better!! heck even ncstar only has had a 5% failure and they are happy to replace there scopes WITH NO COST OR QUESTIONS ASKED!!
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Dravur
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Holy Thread Necromancy!
Pat C... hmmmmm, Don't be a Patsy for Osprey. They are junk with bad service. Seems pretty simple. Most of the people that have any credibility on here have said that the one they got would not hold zero, would fall apart and most have a story about how bad the CS is.
The funny thing is. If you go look at threads about companies like Nightforce, Trijicon, and especially Aimpoint.. you get things like... "My aimpoint was shot by a terrorist in Afghanistan, can you fix it?" and Aimpoint comes through with a new one.
You rarely hear of an Aimpoint falling apart, and if you do, it is a rare occurrence and Aimpoint fixes it. Even trijicon, who doesn't have the best CS will replace a bad ACOG, lickety split. Ask me how I know.
So, a few rave reviews from someone new to a site saying that their new Osprey POS scope is better than having a world class sniper shooting for you, vs LOTS of peeps stating that the ones they got fell apart, etc.
Hmmmm, that is a toughie. There is a famous pic of a van with the words... Free Candy hand painted on the side. For some reason, this thread IS that van.
"Go For It... Seems Legit"
Pat C... hmmmmm, Don't be a Patsy for Osprey. They are junk with bad service. Seems pretty simple. Most of the people that have any credibility on here have said that the one they got would not hold zero, would fall apart and most have a story about how bad the CS is.
The funny thing is. If you go look at threads about companies like Nightforce, Trijicon, and especially Aimpoint.. you get things like... "My aimpoint was shot by a terrorist in Afghanistan, can you fix it?" and Aimpoint comes through with a new one.
You rarely hear of an Aimpoint falling apart, and if you do, it is a rare occurrence and Aimpoint fixes it. Even trijicon, who doesn't have the best CS will replace a bad ACOG, lickety split. Ask me how I know.
So, a few rave reviews from someone new to a site saying that their new Osprey POS scope is better than having a world class sniper shooting for you, vs LOTS of peeps stating that the ones they got fell apart, etc.
Hmmmm, that is a toughie. There is a famous pic of a van with the words... Free Candy hand painted on the side. For some reason, this thread IS that van.
"Go For It... Seems Legit"
Strykervet
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There is ONE Chinese scope that I would endorse. Those SWFA SS scopes, the cheap ones, are actually not that bad for the price. They also are pretty plain and don't have lots of features or gimmicks. My buddy actually carried one in Iraq years ago. This dude had it mounted on a personal Whitefeather that he got papers to take. He could have used a better scope, he had one and had access to basically everything the Bde. had on paper in the armsrooms. I used it myself and was impressed.
On the other hand, we got some ATN's to play with. Now those were JUNK! I tried to get them to take the junk back and replace it and I got such a difficult time I just said forget about it. So I torture tested the one I had left --it made it a day. If they get wet, they are trashed. Plain and simple.
That SS Scope is the only decent cheapie available that I know of. Not that there aren't others, I just don't know of them. When it comes to durability of a combat optic, I kind of lean towards Trijicon and Aimpoint. I'm not a fan of the Aimpoint, but I have seen firsthand how much of a beating one can take and am impressed.
I think the SS scopes even have an NSN now. That says something I guess.
When Osprey can make a scope with the same following, I'll be interested.
On the other hand, we got some ATN's to play with. Now those were JUNK! I tried to get them to take the junk back and replace it and I got such a difficult time I just said forget about it. So I torture tested the one I had left --it made it a day. If they get wet, they are trashed. Plain and simple.
That SS Scope is the only decent cheapie available that I know of. Not that there aren't others, I just don't know of them. When it comes to durability of a combat optic, I kind of lean towards Trijicon and Aimpoint. I'm not a fan of the Aimpoint, but I have seen firsthand how much of a beating one can take and am impressed.
I think the SS scopes even have an NSN now. That says something I guess.
When Osprey can make a scope with the same following, I'll be interested.
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