New product alert - A new 2 in 1 Annealer & Prep center....

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Looks good and the pricing is good too.

I am needing to anneal some 223 and 308 in the near future.
Any thoughts on offering one without the case prep feature? I (probably like a lot of folks) have some case prep tools on hand. My process would be clean, anneal (not every firing), size, trim, prep - maybe this is right, maybe not :)
 
And the small brass particles from the case prep operation, where do they go? Looks like that operation would create a mess.

Otherwise looks good.
 
Cheesemaker said:
Looks good and the pricing is good too.

I am needing to anneal some 223 and 308 in the near future.
Any thoughts on offering one without the case prep feature? I (probably like a lot of folks) have some case prep tools on hand. My process would be clean, anneal (not every firing), size, trim, prep - maybe this is right, maybe not :)
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Hey Cheesemaker! An annealing machine without one will cost you the same price, or more. So look at it this way, you are basically getting a prep center with it, for free. You wouldn't be doing both operations at the same time anyhow, and power switch only allows you to turn on one or the other.

***You can always sell your old prep center to offset some of the cost of getting one of these :), and also save yourself some bench / storage space most of us do not have enough of.
 
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guzzi said:
And the small brass particles from the case prep operation, where do they go? Looks like that operation would create a mess.

Otherwise looks good.
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There's a video on the website showing just that. Most of the brass shavings will be around the attachment, and can be brushed or vaccumed off. No different than any other prep center. Whether you are doing by hand, or using any prep center, you are getting to get brass shavings. I mean..... that's the whole point. you are taking metal off a case.... Anyhow For the specks that falls outside of the attachment area, which is quite minimal, they most land on the chute, which again, can be easily wiped off. Or you can lay it flat instead of upright and have a pan beneath it if that's your preference. minimal to no clean up needed then.

Some do ask if the shavings will build up between the wheels and interrupt the operation. Answer is no. Not the way it's designed. It will fall right between the wheel and onto the table. you can catch it with a pan / dish, or just wipe / vaccume it up afterwards. The attachment to the wheel is basically a steel rod. Look at the video on the tutorial page. There is almost no trace of shavings between the wheels after 10s of thousands of cases prepped.
 
Walkalong said:
Yes, he isn’t pretending otherwise.

Thought members might be interested
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And you were right. It's good price-point. I still do it the old way with a water bath and butane torch for .30-06, 7.62Russian and the various Mauser rifle cartridges I shoot. I don't reload .223 Rem or 5.56mm NATO so it would not help me there but it is still interesting.
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
And you were right. It's good price-point. I still do it the old way with a water bath and butane torch for .30-06, 7.62Russian and the various Mauser rifle cartridges I shoot. I don't reload .223 Rem or 5.56mm NATO so it would not help me there but it is still interesting.
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Hey GeoDudeFlorida.

This isn't just for 223. This will works with any cases up to 30-06. There is a magnum wheel being produced as we speak that will be included, or sent out to existing customer free of charge once available.

On a side note, personally I would skip the water bath cooling. The concept applies to steel, not brass. Because once you change the brass structure through proper heating, it doesn't matter how quickly you cool it. it doesn't make the brass softer or harder. Same goes with overheating. Don't want to open up a can of worms in regards to overheating. Forget I even said it. lol.
 
Burstfire said:
Hey GeoDudeFlorida.

This isn't just for 223. This will works with any cases up to 30-06. There is a magnum wheel being produced as we speak that will be included, or sent out to existing customer free of charge once available.

On a side note, personally I would skip the water bath cooling. The concept applies to steel, not brass. Because once you change the brass structure through proper heating, it doesn't matter how quickly you cool it. it doesn't make the brass softer or harder. Same goes with overheating. Don't want to open up a can of worms in regards to overheating. Ignore I even said it. lol.
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How's it handle rims - .303Brit and 7.62Russian?
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
How's it handle rims - .303Brit and 7.62Russian?
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Perfectly fine. They stack up on the chute without any issues. The standard wheel will accommodate:
Rim thickness of up to 0.110, and base of 0.500

303 brit rim thickness is between 0.057-0.064, and base diameter is approx 0.460
7.62R rim thickness is about 0.063 and base diameter is approx - 0.487

I will upload a demo videos on the website to show the different cases it will accommodate. Will try and work on that this weekend.
 
Current website price: $274.87

Follow the OPs link - you will find it under "Reloading" then choose "Burstfire Annear & Prep Center".

Yes, Anneal is misspelled on the website.
 
Cheesemaker said:
Current website price: $274.87

Follow the OPs link - you will find it under "Reloading" then choose "Burstfire Annear & Prep Center".

Yes, Anneal is misspelled on the website.
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Oops! Just fixed the typo. Thanks for catching it Cheesemaker!

Sorry for not including the price. The reason for not listing the price is not to try and drive you to the site, but simply trying to be respectful to the admin's rules of using this as an advertisement.

By the way, this community has been invaluable to me over the years through my reloading journey. Like many others, I want to give back to this community.

Please use: THR5 to get a 5% discount sitewide. Normally discount code will not apply to to our Annealing products, except for this one, THR5

@Cheesemaker I will credit the 5% on your order.

Also, as noted on the website. We are still behind on shipments, working through Black Friday & Cyber Monday orders. Any orders place today and through the weekend should ship between Wednesday and Friday next week. It will improve as we work through our operational efficiency issues as we ramp up our operation. Apologize for any inconvenience during this time.

***Shipment delays only applies to Annealing machines, since we handle / package them differently, to include hose, torch, and to properly secure them. It is the holiday season, when handlers are angry, and packages not handled with care, and/or bounced around with other packages.

All other orders do ship within 24 hours.
 
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I am fairly impressed with that. I already have an RCBS Case Prep Station that I've been using for what has to be almost twenty years ... but I like the idea of being able to tilt yours over on its side so that shavings and primer pocket crud falls into a pile on the prep table rather than down in and around the bits.

I need a better way to anneal as well.

Let me get past Christmas and all of these kids and grandkids presents .... and I am going to gift myself one of these machines of yours. I've got 10s of 1000s of cases of rifle brass that need annealing before I try working them again.
 
jmorris said:
Good price, for sure. What is the drive for the rotating tools, bearing, bushing, gear (plastic/metal), chain, ?
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Hi @jmorris, Each slot is driven by its own / Independent high torque motor. Nothing in the unit share any parts. Even the wheels. They all operate independently, except connected to the same board and power source. Most if not all on the market will use a single motor and gears between them run the rest. Which creates potential issues of if one goes down, they all do. It could “potentially” shortens the life of the motor as well.

The left most attchment has speed reduced by 50%, but not the torque. Still fast enough to take on any task, but what it does is it now makes some task normally done by hand, possible on the prep center. Such as flash hole uniformer. The speed a normal prep center spins, it’s difficult to accurately insert a case through a uniforming tool. By slowing it down, now it can be done.

Another one I use it for is the primer pocket uniformer. Can never get an even round cut on a machine, so was done by hand. By slowing it down, and then giving it a slight 1/4 turn twist closewise, solved the problem, for me.
 
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@Burstfire A few questions:

1. Are the motor components industry standard units and easy to replace? Just thinking about the long-term with this unit, if repairs are ever needed.

2. Will the case prep portion work with the RCBS 90387 and 90386 Military Crimp Remover? They have a 8-32 thread, so really I just need to know if this uses that as well? I imaging the 50% speed station would work best.

Thanks for your time.
 
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