New Rossi/Taurus line of revolving carbines

[arcticap]

Here's a look at some of the new Taurus revolving rifles and shotguns. What's interesting is that Taurus incorporated protective shields on both sides of the cylinder to effectively protect the shooter's arms from the blast coming out of the cylinder gap. That's an improvement over antique designs that could enhance their use for black powder related shooting.
The design of the lever action Circuit Judge looks like it's really extra special!

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4405760&postcount=1

The .410/.45 Long Colt Circuit Judge is available with either a smoothbore or a rifled barrel:

http://www.rossiusa.com/product-det...eadcrumbseries=&CFID=3199971&CFTOKEN=51289126

 

[Pancho]

That is thinking out of the box.

 

[arcticap]

The .410 mares leg does have a rifled barrel but it doesn't chamber the .45 Long Colt.
But there's 2 other mares leg rifles in .45 Long Colt and .44 Magnum.

http://www.rossiusa.com/2011newcatalog/?catalog_page=7

http://www.rossiusa.com/2011newcatalog/?catalog_page=10

 

[damoc]

very cool just what i have been looking for 45 colt/410 scope possible
and to top it off multiple shots

 

[andrewstorm]

loose goose

these revolving carbines are the loosest newly made gun ive ever seen,i got a114 yr old colt thats tighter,and the guard is just ugly.skkip this wast of money,get u an 1858 carbine and be happy,just my opinion

 

[zimmerstutzen]

In addition, several states have apparently ruled that these revolver rifles and shotguns are illegal for hunting. Here in PA for example as a shotgun, it must be plugged to a three shell max., Barrel must be a certain minimum length as well for use as a shotgun.

I think it is more a case of the regulatory folks forgetting what types of firearms once existed when they pass regulations and then being in a quandary when that old tech is resurrected. Pa has a major hole in it's regulations for firearms that fall into the transition from muzzleloaders to fixed cartridge guns. For instance the 1853 Sharps as a breech loading percussion gun is not lefgal for hunting. Cap and Ball revolvers are not legal for hunting small or large game.

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

You know Articap, I still have one of those Rossi lever action carbines chambered for .357 Mag. That thing is way over 20 years old and is the only one of my 'modern cased' firearms I held on to. (sentimental value)..The first time I ever used it was years and years ago in Alaska and I needed some fresh meat real bad. I killed two ptarmigan with it. Ooohh! They were so good. Killed a cow moose with it to about a week after the birds there. One shot kill at about 45 yards. Two nights later I was sitting by the fire eating moose liver (I love it!) and a young black bear came in after the moose quarters that were hanging and I got him to. 2 shots brought him...The Rossi carbine was made somewhere in South America (I want to say Argentina) and I know Rossi make's some fine firearms.....

 

[PapaG]

I've been wondering when someone else would ask the question on these five/six shot "combo" guns as to hunting legality. In the Republik of Illinois, we have so many restrictions on what we can and can't use to hunt with it takes a legal mind to sort it out. For instance, shotguns must be plugged to hold only three shots total when hunting anything but snow geese and maybe coyotes. 410 slugs are illegal for deer. 45 colt handguns are legal if used with Corbon loads generating at least 500 ft lb of muzzle energy. Might be a few other loads but the factory 45s don't make it. (for deer). Also, if you are hunting birds, you cannot carry slugs. If you are hunting deer, you cannot carry shot loads. Not sure how the "rifled" barrel thing will work out for bird hunting.....can't shoot birds with a rifle or handgun...don't know if they will make an exception for rifled shotguns.
Lots to think about.
BTW, I believe Rossi is part of Braztech, parent of both them and Taurus and are Brazillian made on Taurus machinery...hard to keep track as guns appear in one catalog one year and in another the next..long guns no longer cataloged as Taurus.

 

[arcticap]

A Gunblast review shows that the Circuit Judge comes with a plastic plug to block off 2 chambers for hunting where there's a capacity restriction.

Circuit Judge comes with plugs for two chambers, for use where shotgun capacity is regulated to three rounds.

http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-CircuitJudge.htm

 

[PapaG]

Does it lock in place? Illinois requires a "not readily removeable plug" to reduce capacity to three rounds. Looks like this just slides in and out.

Hope they give a pass on this.

 

[arcticap]

The plug doesn't lock in place but the cylinder does.
It would need to be presented to the proper conservation enforcement authorities to determine if it was legal or not in each state.
If it was ruled against then some of the hunting groups could always try to promote a change in the state regulations.

 

[Gatofeo]

"... What's interesting is that Taurus incorporated protective shields on both sides of the cylinder to effectively protect the shooter's arms from the blast coming out of the cylinder gap. That's an improvement over antique designs that could enhance their use for black powder related shooting." -- arcticap

As Ecclesiastes 1:9 observes, "There is nothing new under the sun."

The very early Colt cap and ball revolvers had such "blast shelds" around the cylinder gap and rear of cylinder, to reduce blast from the cylinder gap and nipple areas.
Sam Colt abandoned the idea after making a few prototypes. My guess is that it prevented fouling from being ejected with each blast, and gummed up the works even more.
A promotional Colt revolver, made in 1835 to encourage stock investment, had both shields, as did a few later prototypes. The "blast shield" idea was abandoned by 1836 when the Paterson was introduced.