New Ruger "Mini-14 Target" model; illegal in CA

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I'd buy one.

At $749, it is still almost cheaper than entry level plastic and aluminum ARs and probably shoots better. This is obviously meant to be a benchrest gun hence the wild stock...Benchrest shooters have been shooting guns like this for years. Whats wrong with shooting five round mags through a gun that was intended to be a ranch carbine and not a battle gun?

There are a lot of guys on this forum that get too emotional with the political game that gun makers play in order to survive. Do you give this much political thought to the gas companies before you fill up your tank? Maybe Shell is making some shady deals so I'll choose Exxon today?

I dont agree with what Bill Ruger said, but as long as he is making quality firearms in America, I will buy them. I will use them to introduce new people to the shooting sports. That is how I will support the second ammendment. Not by gossiping online.
 
Fact: Bill Ruger is dead.

Yeah, he said and did stupid things. What he tried to do politically didn't work, and hurt the company enough so you can bet they won't do anything that stupid again.

S&W is pretty much in the same boat, and just about morally equivelent.

Who else are you going to spend money on? Taurus? :scrutiny: Glock? Oh yeah, 'cuz Brazil and Austria are SUCH bastions of freedom...

Jeez.

Ruger's customer service rocks. Their gun quality has been spiking sharply upwards of late. My 2005-production New Vaquero was built *right* and tight, and shoots like it. People are now remarking that the latest-production large-frame SAs are starting to match the quality of the new series of mid-frame SA wheelguns like mine.

I need a rifle at some point. This thing has merit, with a standard synthetic stock of course. I could then take it back into Cali if I buried high-cap mags at the border :rolleyes:. The barrel vibe-controller isn't screwed on, so there's no "eeevil threaded barrel" problem...other than the stock, this is CA legal. It's a good bet a distributor will sell some in a special CA edition, or a Californian could buy one from an out-of-state dealer on gunsamerica or something and have them swap stocks prior to shipping.
 
Can anyone explain the pros of living in CA??? Besides beaches there's nothing good that is in the state. --(plus you can't own any "fun" guns)--
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You don't know what you're talking about. Granted, I no longer live there, but I miss many things about California.

I lived in the central valley (Modesto). With a couple hours drive in any direction I could be at, the beach, the Sierra Nevadas where I loved to fish and camp, the Sequoias, Yosemite, Redwood forest, Lake Tahoe where my kids learned to ski.

The greatest food in the world is right there. The weather is spectacular.

Yes, the gun laws are the worst. But it's not the fault of Californians. If you look at one of those red/blue maps during elections, most of California is staunch conservative. Don't ask me how things come to be like they are, but apparantly the highest concentrations of voters are in liberal concentrations which totally destroys California's politics.

That's why, say, when a mountain lion ventures into Sonora (the Sierra foothills and a gorgeous town, BTW) and kills somebody, it'll come up for a vote to take mountain lions of the endangered list. But then the retards in LA, who have never even seen a mountain lion, will vote it down.

I feel fortunate for having been able to live there. Don't get me wrong. I now live in a pro 2nd amendment state and have a CCL and all, but Cal still has many appealing characteristics.

Hey, now that housing prices are dropping, who knows................
 
I watched that interview with Ruger and despite the quotations, he did not put the word 'simple' in front of civilians. He's deceased anyway, so not buying the cheap, reliable guns they make won't hurt him one bit.

Have fun.
 
PS - loving my Mini-14 Target. Paid 7 bills for it and it does shot moa all day. I think a lot of gun's 'accuracy issues' deal more with lack of operator practice.
 
The one advantage cali has over other states besides being run by the Governator,is that is the most popular place in america for airsoft.some people prefer airsoft to real firearms,since they are cheaper,have far less regulation,and you can use them in combat simulations.
 
He only did it with magazines, because a great number of firearms were threatened with being banned from civilian ownership. There's no telling what would've happened if he hadn't sent that letter. For all we know all our AR-15s and AK-47s and SKSs would've been banned outright.


Thats Not correct.. To this day even after the Ban Expired his company does not allow the sale of his Mini 14 magazines over 10 rds availlable to the public.LAw enforcment and Goverment only..

Screw Ruger, their guns, and anyone who is to blind to see its only about their own, not gun owners in general!

Whoever wrote "its ugly enough to be CA legal" is correct..:)
 
Two related points of interest:

1. Ruger now offers the new Target Model Ranch Rifle with a Hogue Overmold stock of traditional styling, so this option IS legal in California. I just saw (and handled) this option at the NRA show.

2. Ruger HAS made some upgrades to the regular Ranch Rifle. The new 580 .223 series DOES have a slightly heavier barrel (now uses the mini-30 barrel profile) and everything else has been retooled. I have had both an older mini and now a new 580, and the new ones ARE more accurate. They will never totally achieve AR accuracy, but some of us just don't care for the military look or the ergonomics of an AR (my situation, and I have experience with them). My new mini is the perfect truck/farm gun. My bolt-action .223 is my paper and my long-range varmint gun.
 
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Fact: Bill Ruger is dead.

Yeah, he said and did stupid things. What he tried to do politically didn't work, and hurt the company enough so you can bet they won't do anything that stupid again.


They still continue to do stupid things. They wont sell their 20rd mini 14 magazines to the public Le//govt use only I tired to buy some recently though sopme retailer are selling them online, they risk losing doing business with ruger..
 
what kind of dumba$$ cali lawmaker would call anything thing with a thumbhole an assualt weapon???????
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The kind that we elect here, that's who.
This rifle would be illegal in California because of the thumbhole stock and the flash suppressor. Just from looking at it I don't see anything else that would be a problem. So a different stock, and removing the suppressor, would be all that would be needed for a California-legal version from what I can see. Heck, I'd buy it.

I love Mini 14s and own 3 of them. (Two are very new; one is an old 182-series from around 1981). They are good shooters, handy, and reliable.
 
azhunter12 said:
Can anyone explain the pros of living in CA??? Besides beaches there's nothing good that is in the state. --(plus you can't own any "fun" guns)-- Just my 2¢. AZhunter☻
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Other than some of the most prolific serial murderers of the 20th century...just crappy gun laws.
 
Pecos21 said:
I'd buy one.

At $749, it is still almost cheaper than entry level plastic and aluminum ARs and probably shoots better. This is obviously meant to be a benchrest gun hence the wild stock...Benchrest shooters have been shooting guns like this for years. Whats wrong with shooting five round mags through a gun that was intended to be a ranch carbine and not a battle gun?

There are a lot of guys on this forum that get too emotional with the political game that gun makers play in order to survive. Do you give this much political thought to the gas companies before you fill up your tank? Maybe Shell is making some shady deals so I'll choose Exxon today?

I dont agree with what Bill Ruger said, but as long as he is making quality firearms in America, I will buy them. I will use them to introduce new people to the shooting sports. That is how I will support the second ammendment. Not by gossiping online.
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False. At the prices of new Minis, you're into AR territory, and fine ones can be had for$750-800 that the Ruger is going for. You will not catch me spending $750 on a Mini when an SKS is cheaper and battle proven, AKs are more modular and own the gas piston realm, and ARs (minus CLd in my experience) trump anything a Mini has to offer other than the possibility of a nice walnut stock. Other than that, if someone had a Mini for under $500, I might buy depending on model. But other SA in its price range do the job better.

Show me where a Mini will not only outshoot a non-chrome lined AR in the same price range (RRA anyone, S&W, PSA!!!) but at its respective maximum effective range, and I'll eat my hat. Seriously.
 
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Doggieman said:
Beaches, good looking women, sun, style, awesome scenery. Pretty much it. Oh and I travel abroad fairly frequently.. when people ask me where I'm from I say "California" instead of "the US" and they hate me less.
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All things that can be found in North Carolina. Personally I would reply, "Republic of California". People abroad might like you even more when they realize you live under a regime that oppresses people.
 
Looking for further markets for a venerable plinker - good for them even if it is as ugly as the south end of a north bound burro.

Now, mod it to take Mini and a fella's already existing cache of AR/M16 mags and I'm on board.

I'd love to throw some support Ruger's way for their current overt policy of correcting some of "Bill's" misguided policies.
 
They offer these with Hogue stocks that are non-thumbhole. These are accurate rifles, I had one and it was as accurate as many bolt guns, even took it prairie dog hunting.
 
I'm afraid you are wrong about the high capacity magazines, can get them direct from my distributor.
 
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