You simply cannot make that blanket statement and be correct.New ones of the same model have much tighter tolerances because of better machining. Accuracy is generally better because of this.
You simply cannot make that blanket statement and be correct.New ones of the same model have much tighter tolerances because of better machining. Accuracy is generally better because of this.
To me, it is not an either/ or scenario; both old and new bring something attractive to the table. Everything on this planet has an upside and a downside, so it goes with firearms.
You are correct. I should have written most. There are exceptions.You simply cannot make that blanket statement and be correct.
When I look at my old battle rifles I have often wondered the same thing...if only we knew their stories , maybe we would be enchanted by them , or maybe we could be haunted by them , in the end their just a tool , their history was dictated by the character , luck , or misfortune , of the men that used them ......if only they could tell us what would they say.....When I look at my Springfield operator with the rail, sure fire light, and 10 round Wilson mag, I admire it for what an excellent and effective handgun it is. When I look at my US property marked Colt 1911 or Remington Rand 1911A1, I wonder where they have been and who was using them.
I have to humbly disagree with this statement. I personally own several cheapie firearms from the 30s-50s that have zero collector value. Yet all are safe,solid, and fully functional. At least 5 would be hard pressed to bring $100 on the market.Everyone claims that they don't make em like they used to but that's because the only old guns that are still around, are the very best examples of production from 50+ years ago.
Cheap doesn't always mean garbage.I have to humbly disagree with this statement. I personally own several cheapie firearms from the 30s-50s that have zero collector value. Yet all are safe,solid, and fully functional. At least 5 would be hard pressed to bring $100 on the market.
For most of my more experienced handguns I have had no problems sourcing repair parts for those things that do wear, including barrels. I also do inspect and replace wear parts as needed and so far with only a few minor exceptions, before anything breaks..Problem I have with shooting some of my older guns on a regular basis is having something break on them and being able to get them fixed/find parts. So I shoot the snot of those newer firearms I own, since they can easily be fixed, or even replaced. My desire is so that my grandkids and great grandkids will have the privilege like I did, to shoot my grandpa's and my dad's guns.
Nothing exists in a vacuum, and there's a lot of survivor bias when it comes to new vs old firearms. Everyone claims that they don't make em like they used to but that's because the only old guns that are still around, are the very best examples of production from 50+ years ago. The garbage made back then has long been melted down for scrap, dumped in rivers, or otherwise discarded.
An example from a former S&W-trained armoror:
No more than pricey gaurantees quality. I was just stating my doubts that anything stamped JC Higgins would have been the best example of anything when they were made. Yet there are tons of them still in circulation and functioning as well as they ever did.Cheap doesn't always mean garbage.[/QUO
Functionally, JC Higgins, Sears, etc punched way above their weight.No more than pricey gaurantees quality. I was just stating my doubts that anything stamped JC Higgins would have been the best example of anything when they were made. Yet there are tons of them still in circulation and functioning as well as they ever did.
My wife's Marlin is an old micro-groove. It shoots fairly well, but it's unimpressive as far as fit and finish. I haven't had a new one in my hands so I don't know how they compare.Some older guns have quality that is not met today. My Marlin rifle for example is older than I am by a few years and much better quality than what is made today. If I were looking for an older Remington 870 or 700, I would look for an older serial number.
Most of my experienced guns are simply not available as new guns and haven't been available in decades.
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I agree. The cars of today are a good example. Today’s cars have a ton more safety features, are 1000X more fuel efficient while 100X more powerful, have comfort features & options that weren’t even conceived of 50 years ago...
However, the soul & style of a ‘57 Chevy Bel Air, or a ‘66 Ford Mustang, heck, a 1980 Trans-Am even, leave so many of today’s vehicles in their dust.
Some of us old folks still live by the mantra "There's no replacement for displacement" . I prefer larger displacement handguns for the most part, with metal frames much in the same way I prefer older vehicles with more metal in their construction. But I can't deny what modern technology has allowed in terms firearms manufacturing and automobile. Oh...and there are modern, naturally aspirated pickup trucks that would blow the doors off that old Buick you had. Sad, however true.Humpf ! We had a '67 Buick Wildcat with 4-barrel carb on a 430 CID engine and, one time on a country road, I had the needle pegged at 120 and the pedal was only 3/4 of the way down. Granted, we only got about 8 mpg but I don't think there are many cars today that could equal that car w/o a turbo or supercharger.
Oh...and there are modern, naturally aspirated pickup trucks that would blow the doors off that old Buick you had. Sad, however true.
I think that Ruger is a JP Sauer 38h lessen you were looking at something else. It's a 7.65/32acp that was made in 1942 and captured in either Italy or North Africa in 1943 or 1944. The 38h was the predecessor of the much later Sig Sauer P-series but has an internal hammer. The lever is a decocker like what is found on the Sig P-series BUT it also is a cocking lever.Dangit ! That Ruger looks a lot like mt Astra .380. Is that a .380?
That's a cool old gun. I'm curious how the polymer guns will hold up compared to those.I think that Ruger is a JP Sauer 38h lessen you were looking at something else. It's a 7.65/32acp that was made in 1942 and captured in either Italy or North Africa in 1943 or 1944. The 38h was the predecessor of the much later Sig Sauer P-series but has an internal hammer. The lever is a decocker like what is found on the Sig P-series BUT it also is a cocking lever.
A Sig P230 9mm Kurz/380acp field stripped:
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and a Sauer 38H:
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