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Newport News - tonight - attendees needed - ask Kaine about SB 476/776
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Van Cleave
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: VA-ALERT: Let's ask Kaine about SB 476/776 tonight!
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VCDL's Gun Dealer Legal Defense Fund -- help fight Mayor Bloomberg's
scheme to cripple Virginia firearms dealers. See:
www.vcdl.org/index.html#DefenseFund
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VCDL's meeting schedule: http://www.vcdl.org/meetings.html
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Governor Kaine is going to be in Newport News TONIGHT (Wed, March
12th) for a "town hall meeting"! He will be back on March 19th in
Norfolk.
The information about the meeting is below in the Daily Press article.
The Daily Press is suggesting the following question on guns: "In the
wake of the Virginia Tech tragedy, why is it still impossible to close
the gun show loophole, or pass any meaningful gun reform legislation?"
Hmmmm - SB 476 (restaurant concealed carry for CHP holders) and SB 436
(locked container) were both "gun reform legislation," so, I agree -
we need to ask the Governor.
I would suggest you ask this:
"You signed SB 776, which allows OFF-DUTY Commonwealth Attorneys and
their deputies, none of whom have any required firearms training, to
carry a concealed handgun in restaurants that serve alcohol AND
DRINK. But you VETOED SB 476, which would have allowed law-abiding
concealed handgun permit holders, all of whom HAVE firearms training,
to be able to carry a concealed handgun in a restaurant, NOT DRINK,
and NOTIFY the restaurant of their presence. Since you claimed that
"alcohol and guns don't mix" as justification for your veto of SB 476,
how do you explain your support for SB 776, which unlike SB 476,
actually DOES allow alcohol and guns to mix?"
We would all LOVE to hear that answer! Hopefully we can get a
recording of the meeting.
Do NOT let the Governor try to cop out by blaming the strong support
for SB 776 in the House and Senate. SB 476 and SB 436 both had strong
support, too, but he vetoed them anyway.
If that question gets asked by someone, then ask,
"Since a gun in a locked container was NOT considered concealed for
one hundred years in Virginia and a bad judicial ruling changed that
in the 1990's, why did you VETO SB 436, which would have put the law
back where it had been before that erroneous ruling? By definition,
how can a gun in a LOCKED container be a threat to law enforcement or
anyone else, for that matter?"
http://tinyurl.com/yqh2tc
Ask the governor
Tonight's town hall meeting in Newport News is for you
March 12, 2008
Tonight in Newport News, in the first week of his round-the-state
series of town hall meetings, Gov. Tim Kaine will listen to the
public's questions and comments on this year's General Assembly
session, now reconvened, and the 2008-2010 budget, the details of
which are still being fine-tuned. Anyone who's been following the
doings, undoings and nondoings of this year's Assembly will most
likely have their own questions about what's been achieved in yet
another spill-over legislative session.
But here are some suggestions for the gubernatorial quiz, just in case:
...
• Guns. In the wake of the Virginia Tech tragedy, why is it still
impossible to close the gun show loophole, or pass any meaningful gun
reform legislation?
...
Want to go?
Gov. Tim Kaine will take questions from the public at a town hall
meeting from 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. tonight at Warwick High School, 51
Copeland Lane, Newport News. No sign-in is required to attend or ask
questions.
The governor will be in the area for another public meeting next week,
from 6 to 7:30 p.m. Wednesday, March 19, at the Virginia Wesleyan
College Dining Center, 1584 Wesleyan Drive, Norfolk.
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VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
(VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.
VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Van Cleave
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: VA-ALERT: Let's ask Kaine about SB 476/776 tonight!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
VCDL's Gun Dealer Legal Defense Fund -- help fight Mayor Bloomberg's
scheme to cripple Virginia firearms dealers. See:
www.vcdl.org/index.html#DefenseFund
----------------------------------------------------------------------
VCDL's meeting schedule: http://www.vcdl.org/meetings.html
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Governor Kaine is going to be in Newport News TONIGHT (Wed, March
12th) for a "town hall meeting"! He will be back on March 19th in
Norfolk.
The information about the meeting is below in the Daily Press article.
The Daily Press is suggesting the following question on guns: "In the
wake of the Virginia Tech tragedy, why is it still impossible to close
the gun show loophole, or pass any meaningful gun reform legislation?"
Hmmmm - SB 476 (restaurant concealed carry for CHP holders) and SB 436
(locked container) were both "gun reform legislation," so, I agree -
we need to ask the Governor.
I would suggest you ask this:
"You signed SB 776, which allows OFF-DUTY Commonwealth Attorneys and
their deputies, none of whom have any required firearms training, to
carry a concealed handgun in restaurants that serve alcohol AND
DRINK. But you VETOED SB 476, which would have allowed law-abiding
concealed handgun permit holders, all of whom HAVE firearms training,
to be able to carry a concealed handgun in a restaurant, NOT DRINK,
and NOTIFY the restaurant of their presence. Since you claimed that
"alcohol and guns don't mix" as justification for your veto of SB 476,
how do you explain your support for SB 776, which unlike SB 476,
actually DOES allow alcohol and guns to mix?"
We would all LOVE to hear that answer! Hopefully we can get a
recording of the meeting.
Do NOT let the Governor try to cop out by blaming the strong support
for SB 776 in the House and Senate. SB 476 and SB 436 both had strong
support, too, but he vetoed them anyway.
If that question gets asked by someone, then ask,
"Since a gun in a locked container was NOT considered concealed for
one hundred years in Virginia and a bad judicial ruling changed that
in the 1990's, why did you VETO SB 436, which would have put the law
back where it had been before that erroneous ruling? By definition,
how can a gun in a LOCKED container be a threat to law enforcement or
anyone else, for that matter?"
http://tinyurl.com/yqh2tc
Ask the governor
Tonight's town hall meeting in Newport News is for you
March 12, 2008
Tonight in Newport News, in the first week of his round-the-state
series of town hall meetings, Gov. Tim Kaine will listen to the
public's questions and comments on this year's General Assembly
session, now reconvened, and the 2008-2010 budget, the details of
which are still being fine-tuned. Anyone who's been following the
doings, undoings and nondoings of this year's Assembly will most
likely have their own questions about what's been achieved in yet
another spill-over legislative session.
But here are some suggestions for the gubernatorial quiz, just in case:
...
• Guns. In the wake of the Virginia Tech tragedy, why is it still
impossible to close the gun show loophole, or pass any meaningful gun
reform legislation?
...
Want to go?
Gov. Tim Kaine will take questions from the public at a town hall
meeting from 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. tonight at Warwick High School, 51
Copeland Lane, Newport News. No sign-in is required to attend or ask
questions.
The governor will be in the area for another public meeting next week,
from 6 to 7:30 p.m. Wednesday, March 19, at the Virginia Wesleyan
College Dining Center, 1584 Wesleyan Drive, Norfolk.
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***************************************************************************
VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
(VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.
VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
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