NFA items on a C&R

[USAF_Vet]

I've been kicking back and forth the idea of getting my C&R FFL.

Michigan is one of the weird states that allows Full Auto NFA items, but not SBS, SBR or suppressors.

Hypothetically, what would be the legality of a C&R eligible item like a Mosin Nagant M91/30 that was cut down to an Obrez pistol? Technically, it's a SBR, but also a C&R? Does one trump the other?

 

[Rail Driver]

I'd go with "no sbr". C&R has nothing to do with it.

 

[Telekinesis]

I think C&R only applies to the original form of the weapon. For example, I don't think you can get a fully bubba'd mosin and transfer it as a C&R (though I could be wrong). If you found an original Obrez, I think it would be fine, but I don't think you can manufacture your own and still maintain the C&R status.

 

[BK]

NFA Handbook:
http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-10.pdf
10.1.3 NFA firearms classified as curios or relics. NFA firearms may be classified as curios or relics
under the same requirements discussed in Section 10.1.1. NFA firearms classified as curios or relics are
still subject to the provisions of the NFA.

Still regulated as NFA firearm.

 

[kingpin008]

As mentioned, the NFA bit supercedes the C&R bit. Sorry.

 

[AethelstanAegen]

A firearms only retains it's C&R status in it's original configuration. Once you modify the rifle it's technically no longer a C&R.

 

[paintballdude902]

only some C&R nfa weapons get cr status. there is a list with them on it, i know there are a few winchester trapper models on the list since they had like a 14.5 in barrel.

 

[Ian]

I believe you're thinking of the guns exempted from the NFA for historical reasons. Things like short-barreled lever action rifles, BHPs and C96 Mausers with shoulder stocks, etc. Other C&R guns can also be NFA guns, like the Colt 1918 Vickers I recently bought. It has to be NFA registered because it's a machine gun, but once a transfer is approved it could be shipped interstate to a C&R licensee.

 

[USAF_Vet]

As mentioned, the NFA bit supercedes the C&R bit

That is what I figured.

I believe you're thinking of the guns exempted from the NFA for historical reasons. Things like short-barreled lever action rifles, BHPs and C96 Mausers with shoulder stocks, etc. Other C&R guns can also be NFA guns, like the Colt 1918 Vickers I recently bought. It has to be NFA registered because it's a machine gun, but once a transfer is approved it could be shipped interstate to a C&R licensee.

Yeah, this is really what I was looking at. I'd love to get an original Broom Handle Mauser with the stock, but that would be a SBR. If it is NFA exempt as a C&R, thats a reason for me to get my C&R.

 

[cluttonfred]

If I understand the rules right, you don't need a C&R to own an NFA exempt weapon, only to have it shipped directly to you. If it is NFA exempt, I think you could still have it shipped to your FNGS. Not that I want to discourage you from getting a C&R licence, just putting it into context.

 

[ErikO]

Yep, C&R really exists to empty your wallet and break the back of your USPS/UPS folks.

Mine is still pending.

 

[Ian]

That's right, Owlnmole - guns determined to be C&R exempt from the NFA can be owned by anyone. You only need a C&R license to have them shipped interstate directly to you.

 

[lonestardiver]

Don't forget the C&R gets you discounts at brownells, midway, graf & sons, etc...
Mine took 4 weeks door to door.

 

[USAF_Vet]

Is there a list somewhere of NFA exempt firearms?

 

[zoom6zoom]

You'll still need the tax stamp for any C&R eligible NFA. The only thing that changes is that you don't have to pay for a transfer through a Class 3 Dealer.

 

[paintballdude902]

some are exempt from the tax stamp if it predates the nfa