NFL Anti Second Amendment

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Don't y'all fool yourselves or try to rationalize. Of course it is anti-2nd of the NFL. It's motivated by liability and political correctness.

Think about this - some national restaurant chain puts a sign up that says NO GUNS... How many of you will say "They're anti and we should not give 'em our money and we should write letters to management...etc...etc" How about if some grocery store does that? Same crap, right? So, don't try to rationalize.

Wait! How about the same restaurant/grocery chain now demands the right to scan/search you before you go into their establishment? How far are we away from that? Not too far in the future if we keep on giving up little bits of our dignity for perceived safety.

Oh, alcohol, sports, & guns? Say, how about alcohol, bars, & guns? Alcohol, religion, & guns? Alcohol, political fund-raisers, & guns?

Heh, rather than sitting back & watching a game, spending money on corporations that hate you 'cause you "scare" them, and get fatter while sitting on your butts - go out and shoot or do something else.
 
If I want to watch a football game or other sporting event, I will do so in the comfort of my own den and drink my own 50 cent beer and almost free peanuts and popcorn. Then after the game I may take the money I WOULD have spent on travel(varies, average $300),hotel($200) parking($10), tickets($200), and food and drink($250), and buy myself another $1000 gun.
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Actually, a pair of cheap tickets for the Bears (closest to me) are $300 A PIECE. Tack on about $100 for parking and another $100 for crappy concession food and $20 for gas - you have yourself a Glock and a good amount of ammo to shoot! And that's not counting a hotel stay!

Big league professional sports are one of the biggest scams there is, but that's just me.
 
It's still a more or less free country.

It's not like the NFL or the Super Bowl are something you're required to watch under penalty of law if you don't.

Don't watch, don't buy their products or support them in any way if you are offended by their actions.

Otherwise deal with it and accept the fact that not everyone believes in the same things you do.
 
Did anybody just see the NRA's post on Facebook about Daniel defense not being allowed by the NFL to buy a super bowl ad?
 
@Weevil

exactly. the level of understanding of the constitution in some postings is downright scary.

pretending that the RTKBA is valid anywhere and everywhere is funny at best.
Kinda like showing up to hour neighbors garden party OC'ing your new Glock and then being pissed when asked to leave.
 
Wouldn't not allowing ads for guns contribute to sweeping them under the rug and further paint them as not being part of normal life used by normal people? Keeping the mysterious bad guns away from fragile little minds.
 
Lincoln4 said:
http://finance.townhall.com/columni...rg-on-gun-owners-n1754731?utm_source=facebook

"After having banned concealed carry in all of their stadiums, and even ordering women to give up their purse in favor of see-through plastic bags, (don’t ya feel safer now?) the NFL has accelerated its war on gun ownership and the Second Amendment by trampling on the First Amendment. The League has refused to air a commercial for Daniel Defense in the 2014 Super Bowl on grounds that the weapons manufacturer violates the NFL regulations for “prohibited advertising categories”. Their rejection, however, appears rooted in political activism, rather than strict adherence to long standing advertising rules. "

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"Continued..." Still waiting.


Just because it's the "National Football League" doesn't mean they're the government.

Which is what it takes to trample the Second Amendment.

All those rights in the U.S. Constitution don't have a thing to do with private citizens and private businesses. They're restrictions placed on the GOVERNMENT. Unless Uncle Sam is involved (by something other than six degrees of separation), then this has nothing to do with the Second Amendment and everything to do with private business.
 
If it makes any difference in this discussion, I would like to point out that very few (if any) pro sports stadiums and arenas are totally private property, just ask the taxpayers of the regions in which they are built!
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So stadiums are built with taxpayer dollars. So what?
Courthouses, police stations and post offices are too. You can't carry there either.
 
Unless Uncle Sam is involved (by something other than six degrees of separation), then this has nothing to do with the Second Amendment and everything to do with private business.
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Absolutely correct.
Just like people getting fired for running their mouths don't have any protection with the 1st Amendment. That's not what its for.
 
HisStigness said:
Did anybody just see the NRA's post on Facebook about Daniel defense not being allowed by the NFL to buy a super bowl ad?
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It's been interesting watching this thread for the last couple of days... Did anyone click on the link, which leads to an Townhall article regarding the NFL declining a SuperBowl ad by Daniels Defense?

I used the word "continues", as I had only quoted the intro to the article. And yes, I'm very aware that the 2nd Amendment is a protection from government. I was simply using words from the article to draw the reader's eye to the subject line.

My thought was simply that it was hypocritical of the NFL to deny airing a commercial which never shows or mentions firearms, while airing commercials glorifying much more destructive activities such as consuming alcohol. Or perhaps desensitizing videos as shown in the PS4 commercial showing smiling happy gamers wreaking havoc upon one another while driving and/or blasting away with automatic weapons.

I'll still be watching the Seahawks vs Saints game tonight, so carry on...
 
Anyone who thinks you should be allowed to carry at a pro sports venue has probably never been to a game there is no safe way to handle or use a firearm in a crowded stadium. I do wish they d allow gun ads during games but I think thats more anti controversy than anti gun.
 
I want to quote this for its eloquence and poignancy.

This thread makes me sad.

The mindset some of you have is - troubling to me. I've carried a gun into Vikings, Twins and Wild games. I've carried in Valley Fair, State Fair and several county fairs. I have NEVER ONCE been inclined to let my carry piece be an issue. Those who think firearms in crowded environments present a safety concern are, in my opinion, hoplophobic.

I only go to sporting events when the tickets are free, as my wife enjoys such outings. I tend not to support things that were designed by society to take my mind off of tyranny.

For those of you who defend their anti-gun stance on the grounds of property rights, how many professional sports venues have been built with public money?
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I wish I could say I do or would watch sports just for the chance to honestly withdraw my patronage from them.

Best I can do is to plead with others to turn off the faux masculine pacifier and let it collapse under its own absurdity.
 
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Sam Cade said:
The gub'ment is hip deep in how professional sports operates.

To wit:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenh...g-focuses-on-delay-of-hgh-testing-in-the-nfl/
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Sure they are...the gub'ment is hip deep in ANYTHING that has the "$" sign attached to it, too, if for no other reason than taxes.

If I wanted to, I could see gub'ment conspiracies in literally everything that takes place around me, too, but I don't. I could look at every crime that takes place as something staged to eliminate or destroy some undesirable individual or box up people of various ethnicities. I could look at every commercial airline accident as part of a secret conspiracy to silence certain people or foment discontent among others. I could look at FDA approval of anything as both a deliberate obstical to legitimate food/drug options and as a front to push mind-controlling substances to the general public.

I'm not saying that none of this stuff ever happens...or that the NFL might not have some kind of gub'ment underpinnings to it. But we have to draw the line somewhere, even if only for ourselves.

The NFL is not the government. Certainly they could be a powerful lobby one way or the other, but they're still not the government.
 
I have to say, I thought I had heard it all. I've thought I had heard every conspiracy theory in existence, but to think the NFL is being used by Big Brother to kill the will of the people is a new one.
 
I saw the DD ad and I agree with it in that security is my responsibility.

Is the NFL anti-2A? I have no idea. But for the NFL to pull the DD ad indicates that they do not agree with the message being conveyed in the DD ad.

That is basically un-American.
 
This is really funny.

The NFL declined a DD ad for the superbowl.

MEANWHILE the local radio station carrying the game had AD AFTER AD for a Gunshop/Shooting center (2 different ones) in HEAVY rotation on sunday.

Many locally televised games (Not Monday night football) I have seen a Henry Ad.

It's not a 'blanket policy'. It's a superbowl policy it would seem.
 
vamo said:
Anyone who thinks you should be allowed to carry at a pro sports venue has probably never been to a game there is no safe way to handle or use a firearm in a crowded stadium. I do wish they d allow gun ads during games but I think thats more anti controversy than anti gun.
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I've carried at Pro sporting events...

I would have no reason to "handle" or "use" my firearm unless I was in imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death. Which would probably happen on the way to/from the event.
 
Pretty simple economics IMHO. The Super Bowl doesn't have any trouble selling ads for the game. They can pick and choose which ones they want. Why, from a business standpoint, would you choose one that gives you more trouble, headaches, and controversy? The NFL is NOT setting back in their meetings talking about how to strip gun rights from people.

Here is the cold hard facts, that many gun owners don't seem to want to acknowledge, they don't care. One way or the other. As hard as it may seem to some here, not everyone has guns on their mind all the time. The NFL is not trying to destroy the 2A.
 
I never gave a damn about the NFL or football. I see grown men worshipping these players just short of bowing and kissing their feet and wasting large portions of their life on football throughout the years.

If these same men were as rabidly active politically as they were into football, we may have had seen some serious changes already to our nation.

Some guys can name off stats for teams and players off the top of their head, but cannot name certain constitutional amendments that are important to us.
 
I believe that an American should be free to carry a firearm wherever he chooses. Where would the outrage be if stadiums made a rule that any conservative talk, even whispers between fans sitting next to each other was prohibited? Would we simply let it slide and say "their stadium, their rules?" I don't think so.

I don't think there can be a law that forces a stadium owner to allow firearms, after all this is America. However, there should be no law that prosecutes a gun owner from carrying in such a place. If one is discovered they should simply be asked to leave. If someone is injured by a firearm in a stadium it should not be the stadium that is liable. It should be the individual who caused the harm.

The same should go for airlines.

I never gave a damn about the NFL or football. I see grown men worshipping these players just short of bowing and kissing their feet and wasting large portions of their life on football throughout the years.

If these same men were as rabidly active politically as they were into football, we may have had seen some serious changes already to our nation.

Some guys can name off stats for teams and players off the top of their head, but cannot name certain constitutional amendments that are important to us.
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^^I don't think I could have said it better if I had a month to think about it. Grown men would be better off devoting this energy to improving themselves, their families, communities, and nation.
 
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Arkansas Paul said:
I've thought I had heard every conspiracy theory in existence, but to think the NFL is being used by Big Brother to kill the will of the people is a new one.
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Not necessarily kill, but control. Though in modern US America the social constructs of professional sports are mostly concerned with conflict substitution and pacification.

EBT and Professional Sports=Panem et circenses.

I've always attributed the surprising lack of politicization of US American sports to the relatively mono-polar nature of our political landscape where a maintenance of the status quo is the most desired social effect*.

Anyway, the use of sports as a tool of socio-political control is hardly a conspiracy theory if it has been openly done for thousands of years across most civilized cultures.

The history of the Olympics, both ancient and modern, is particularity fascinating if you are interested in how "sport" and politics intermesh.


*If I was a Kingfish type Populist politician, I'd buy myself a winning NASCAR team and run it under the livery of my political faction.
 
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