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http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050903/WEATHER01/509030504/1002/NEWS01


Woman escapes New Orleans, returns home

By CHARLES RUNNELLS
[email protected]
Published by news-press.com on September 3, 2005



Rhonda Mandel hates guns.

But then Hurricane Katrina sideswiped New Orleans on Monday and the Fort Myers woman was suddenly stuck in a French Quarter hotel.

Two days later, Mandel found herself and about 75 other guests preparing to drive an armed caravan of abandoned cars out of the city.

Mandel's driver — a hotel employee armed to the teeth — stopped to show her how to use a handgun.

"I told him no," Mandel said. "I didn't want to."

The engineer looked her in the eye, deadly serious. Just blocks away, the people of New Orleans had already started to loot and rob and kill each other.

"He said, 'What are you going to do when they shoot me?'" Mandel recalled.

She didn't have a good response. "OK," she finally answered. "Show me."

That was just three days ago, and now Mandel is home in Fort Myers. But she said she'll never forget her nerve-wracking escape from New Orleans.

"It's the most horrific thing I've ever been through," she said. "It was terrible."

Mandel, a 43-year-old freelance photographer, had gone to New Orleans last week to help her 18-year-old son, Travis, move into his Tulane University dorm room.

But as they moved in, Katrina moved closer to the Crescent City. And university officials eventually closed the school.

Travis decided to ride out the storm in Baton Rouge with his new roommate, but Mandel stayed in New Orleans to finish setting up his dorm room. Everything was OK until her Sunday flight got canceled.

Suddenly, she had no way out.

"Delta left thousands of people stranded there," she said. "The bus system had already shut down. There wasn't a single rental car in the entire city of New Orleans.

"I was just stuck."

So Mandel and other guests at the New Orleans Marriott did the only thing they could do.

They waited.

Back in Fort Myers, her parents, Linda and Roland Eisenberg, worried about Mandel and whether she'd make it home safely. They talked to her on the hotel phone several times each day.

"We were on an emotional roller coaster," said Roland Eisenberg, 67. "But the high point of the roller coaster was when we talked to her. Because then we knew she was OK."

Then Katrina arrived.

It was a terrifying experience. The wind howled outside, and Mandel could hear windows breaking in the hotel. The third-floor ballroom — where she and about 100 other guests rode out the storm — suddenly sprouted showers in the ceiling.

After the wind stopped, Mandel looked outside at the devastation. Bricks smothered crushed cars. Broken windows marred nearby buildings.

"It was a mess," she said.

There wasn't much Mandel could do for the next few days. There wasn't an easy way out of New Orleans. And besides, the hotel guests were in a relatively safe part of town — the French Quarter is built on higher land and didn't have the flooding seen elsewhere.

So Mandel waited out the aftermath in relative comfort. The hotel staff even cooked them extensive meals, including a breakfast of bacon, eggs, and — of course — croissants.

Finally, on Tuesday, city officials gave the word: Leave New Orleans if you can.

Things were getting worse. Outside the hotel, police armed with machine guns began driving up and down the street.

"It was becoming very, very scary," Mandel said.

The next morning, the hotel staff organized a getaway.

There were 17 abandoned trucks and cars in the hotel garage, and 17 sets of abandoned keys in the valet station. They had themselves a caravan.

Mandel ended up the last vehicle in the caravan, riding in a Ford Bronco driven by the hotel's chief of engineering.

The chief armed himself with two rifles and a handgun — just in case.

"I called him Rambo," Mandel said. "He had on Army fatigues from the waist down."

After showing Mandel how to use a pistol, the two climbed into the Bronco and tailed the caravan out of town.

It was a sobering, often frightening journey.

"It looked like a bomb had gone off," she said.

Streets were flooded. Buildings had collapsed. And everywhere she looked, looters ran out of stores with clothes, bottled water or whatever else they could carry.

Other people sat on the ground crying.

The caravan broke up outside the city limits, and Mandel and the engineer continued on to Baton Rouge, where her parents had already booked her a flight out at 2 p.m.

It was a relief, she said, to finally land at Southwest Florida International Airport at 8:30 p.m. Wednesday.

The nightmare was over.

Mandel's parents and her teenage daughter met her at the airport. Tears flowed, said father Roland Eisenberg. "It was a great feeling."

Days later, Mandel said she still isn't quite herself. She feels disoriented and edgy. And she's been having nightmares about New Orleans: vague images of trying to get home.

Mandel can't even bring herself to watch news accounts of the Katrina aftermath.

"I just don't want to see it," she said. "I don't want any part of it in my mind."
 
The chief armed himself with two rifles and a handgun — just in case.
"I called him Rambo," Mandel said. "He had on Army fatigues from the waist down."
Alright, which one of you was it?

Glad she got her lesson. Sorry it had to be the hard way. At least she got out in one piece.
 
"I told him no," Mandel said. "I didn't want to."
The engineer looked her in the eye, deadly serious. Just blocks away, the people of New Orleans had already started to loot and rob and kill each other.
"He said, 'What are you going to do when they shoot me?'" Mandel recalled.
She didn't have a good response. "OK," she finally answered. "Show me."

I just can't understand the anti-gun mind. Just how far down the road can they visualize? (Apparently it's just as far as the walls around them.)
 
Im not sure it will be so hard for her to go back to her old way of thinking, now that the "adventure" is over. She sounds to me like a true sheeple, and they seldom have enough brains to change their minds. :uhoh:
 
A liberal is a person who has never had to depend on him/her self before,and are scared of those who can/will. :evil:

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
 
I think it's pretty dang cool that the Chief Engineer at the hotel even HAD his guns at the hotel with him.

I wonder if he was thinking ahead because of the storm, or whether he always keep a few guns there..... :confused:
 
I have a close personal friend on the Left Coast that finally 'got it', after this mess- she called me and said..."Ok, I'm ready to buy"....

On the other hand, I have a good friend that lives in NYC...well, he's still in a state of utter denial... :cuss:
 
He'll never work in that town again.

Wow. Interesting story. Certainly answers some questions... like how someone could get stuck there.

Rick
 
Something is bothering me.

There were 17 abandoned trucks and cars in the hotel garage, and 17 sets of abandoned keys in the valet station. They had themselves a caravan.

Wrong!

It were a CONVOY!

Ah, breaker one-nine this here's the Rubber Duck.
You got a copy on me Pig Pen? Come on!


David
 
I just don't want to see it," she said. "I don't want any part of it in my mind

A useless Liberal who can't face reality.

Lets recount the events:

1. Didn't heed the storm warnings.
2. Didn't heed the evacuation warnings.
3. Excuse, decorate her sons dorm room. Mama's boy for sure.
4. Got stuck and because she wouldn't get out with the others, they STOLE other people's cars to form a convoy and escape.
5. Hated guns, but when her life was in danger decided they were needed.
Didn't quite stand up for her values in a time of crisis. Did she?

So besides being stupid, incompentent and useless, she is now a THIEF. A common crimminal.

Delta left thousands of people stranded there," she said

Delta in its wisdom heeding the storm warnings, left the stupid people stranded.
This woman's an idiot.
 
I think they visualize a happy world without firearms. Some people's fantasy lives are livelier than others'.

If you think about it, this is not really a hard question to answer. Most of us grow up thinking the world is fair and the world SHOULD be fair. Those of us who realize it is not and we may have to fight for ourselves and what is right begin to look at the world slightly differently. Other people never begin to think that.

Now, the question comes in why do they not realize how unfair and dangerous the world really is? Well, can can blame it on the government who tells us that they are here for our protection. We can blame it on TV/radio/books that tell us things always work out in the end. We can blame it on society that deludes themselves into believing that the world is fair. Perhaps it is just a person who, no matter what they see and what experiences they have, continue to delude themselves into thinking the world is fair.

No matter what the reason, it is what we have to deal with and what we have to help other people come to realize. Hopefully, this experience opened the eyes of a alot of people. Then again, most people do not do well with vicarious learning. Heck, many people do not do well with learning from experience.
 
Two days later, Mandel found herself and about 75 other guests preparing to drive an armed caravan of abandoned cars out of the city.

Mandel's driver — a hotel employee armed to the teeth — stopped to show her how to use a handgun.

"I told him no," Mandel said. "I didn't want to."

The engineer looked her in the eye, deadly serious. Just blocks away, the people of New Orleans had already started to loot and rob and kill each other.

"He said, 'What are you going to do when they shoot me?'" Mandel recalled.

She replied,"Lalalalalala- I can't hear you!- lalalalalalala... ."

:rolleyes:
 
Two rifles and a handgun constitutes being "armed to the teeth?"

There's a lot of THR members who carry that much firepower when they go grocery shopping.
 
I think they visualize a happy world without firearms. Some people's fantasy lives are livelier than others'.

Reflexively, a world where everyone has firearms and a world where nobody does contain exactly the same elements of safeness. Personally, in a perfect world, I don't mind either outcome. Unfortunately, the world is not perfect. The former [arm everyone] is much easier to obtain then the latter, so I support firearms.

Not everyone deserves them, however...
 
I honestly wonder what her reaction would have been had she
A) REALLY seen someone armed to the teeth.
B) instead of having a peaceful and safe ride out of town had been involved in a little action.
C) listened to the weather broadcast, the evac order and the airline and made arrangements to get out of town she was supposed to?
 
Reflexively, a world where everyone has firearms and a world where nobody does contain exactly the same elements of safeness.
Ezekiel,

That is true only from the perspective of a healthy adult male.

For a look at how safe the world would be if nobody owned guns, look at ancient Greece or medieval Europe.

A completely unarmed world is safe only for large, competent adult males who possess the physical skills to defend themselves and the ones they care to defend. Everyone else -- children, cripples, small or weak or untrained males, females -- is at their mercy.

pax

People who object to weapons aren't abolishing violence, they're begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically 'right.' -- L. Neil Smith
 
Pax.... you've got an interesting quote almost everytime you post. Do you have a book of interest or do you have all these collected from your readings?
 
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