No more ORM labels required on shipped ammo boxes?

[Ignition Override]

This is a first, among about twelve shipped cases: all since '08. Each previous case stated "ORM-D". It makes no difference to me, but it seems odd.

The case which arrived yesterday has no ORM, but instead has a white-on-black geometric shape on a sticker. This white symbol is oblong hexagonal. All other stickers have only the addresses. No idea whether the shipper used Fedex or UPS.

 

[Bexar]

Probably a symbol that can be more easily computer scanned.

 

[GRIZ22]

The new symbol replaced ORM-D in December IIRC.

 

[buck460XVR]

This one?

 

[natman]

The ORM-D standard was from the US. We've synchronized with international standards now, and the ORM-D sticker has been replaced with the international Diamond sticker.

Elimination of ORM-D Classification

In an attempt to harmonize and align with international standards, the DOT has amended the 49CFR regulations regarding the ORM-D classification. Effective January 19, 2011, with the publication of the HM-215K final rule, the hazard class of ORM-D is being eliminated. Those materials may still be shipped classified as a limited quantity (ltd qty). In conjunction with ORM-D hazard class elimination in HM-215K, limited quantity ground shipments will no longer require shipping papers when prepared under the new rule. This includes those materials previously classed as ltd qty that required shipping papers via ground transport.

There is a transition period for shippers to comply with the new classification, marking and labeling requirements. Until December 31, 2020 a limited quantity package containing a consumer commodity as defined in 171.8 may be reclassed as ORM-D, or until December 31, 2012 for ORM-D-Air material. UPS began accepting materials with the new markings effective April 1, 2011. See examples of the new ground and air limited quantity markings below that will be replacing the ORM-D and ORM-D-Air markings.

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/hazardous/new_requirements.html

 

[CoalTrain49]

Yes but it still costs an arm and a leg to ship ammo. It's a racket created by the gov't to force shippers to extract a small fortune from private parties to ship ammo. It doesn't add a lot of cost to a dealer shipping 100 lbs but a few boxes makes it too costly.

 

[Tommygunn]

One more step toward One World Government ... completed....

 

[natman]

Yes but it still costs an arm and a leg to ship ammo. It's a racket created by the gov't to force shippers to extract a small fortune from private parties to ship ammo. It doesn't add a lot of cost to a dealer shipping 100 lbs but a few boxes makes it too costly.

Ammo doesn't cost a dime more to ship than anything else. There are no Hazmat charges on loaded ammo. If it's expensive to ship it's because ammo is heavy.

 

[newfalguy101]

Huh??


I think you may be referring to HazMAt, which is completely different and as far as that goes, doesn't even apply to loaded ammunition.

ORM-D doesn't add to the cost, as far as I know, its mearly a placard indicating that the package contains ANY NUMBER Of different Other Regulated Material, class D.......for instance spary paint gets the exact same placard

 

[chris in va]

I shipped some ammo to a friend four years ago through UPS. Stuck an ORM-D sticker on both sides, and cost was in line with anything else of the same weight.

 

[Ignition Override]

Thanks for the responses.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Recently I ordered a can of Permalyn from Brownell's. That was all that was in the package. They had an ORM-D sticker on the outside. The poor driver.

 

[mgkdrgn]

Yes but it still costs an arm and a leg to ship ammo. It's a racket created by the gov't to force shippers to extract a small fortune from private parties to ship ammo. It doesn't add a lot of cost to a dealer shipping 100 lbs but a few boxes makes it too costly.

Ummm, ammo costs to ship because it is HEAVY. The government has nothing to do with it. You would pay the same to ship the same weight in steel scrap.

Ammo is not a HazMat ... there is no additional fee to ship it.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

Back in May I got a package of shotgun shells with that new "limited quantity" symbol and no visible ORM-D (was covered by tape) and Fed Ex freaked and refused to leave it at my door and and made me sign for it at the regional warehouse West of Phoenix an hour's drive away (not even one of their urban locations). Even worse I had to take time off work to make the trip twice because when I arrived at 3:45 the first day the security guard told me they "just left" (they said on the phone they close at 4:00).

Mike

 

[dogtown tom]

Arizona_Mike Back in May I got a package of shotgun shells with that new "limited quantity" symbol and no visible ORM-D (was covered by tape) and Fed Ex freaked and refused to leave it at my door and and made me sign for it at the regional warehouse ......

FedEx delivers thousands of ammunition shipments every day.
What was different about this one?

I wouldn't drive to pick up a package that they failed to deliver.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

FedEx delivers thousands of ammunition shipments every day.
What was different about this one?

I wouldn't drive to pick up a package that they failed to deliver.

No idea and I argued a lot on the phone before giving up. I'm guessing they were not yet used to the "limited quantity of consumer goods" sticker yet. It has never happened before or since.

I think the shipper required a signature but that does not explain why I could not have gone to my local distribution center.

Mike

 

[PercyShelley]

I work for a package company.

I had wondered what that weird, new symbol was. Thanks.

 

[natman]

I work for a package company.

I had wondered what that weird, new symbol was. Thanks.

Apparently nobody told Arizona Mike's FedEx clerk either.

 

[marv]

Now, if they could just find some ammo to ship.

 

[mgkdrgn]

I work for a package company.

I had wondered what that weird, new symbol was. Thanks.

Your "package company" has failed to train you properly.

Complain.

 

[Hossfly72]

It cracks me up. Guys get upset because the delivery guy didn't leave $200 worth of ammo at their door. Other guys get upset cause the delivery guy leaves $200 worth of ammo at thier door. If I were that delivery guy (and sometimes I am), I would NOT leave a box of anything I know is valuable or possibly dangerous at somebody's door. For all I know, they're on vacation for another week. If I have time, I'll run back by on the way back to the station. If you sign the doortag and maybe give me a hint where you'd like me to leave it, I'll do it. "Put it in the red truck and lock it, slide it under the dog's butt, leave it in the grill."
If not, I'll try it the next business day and the next. After that, you drive to the station and pick it up. But if I leave it, and it gets stolen or wet, or eaten by your dog, I can't afford to pay for your stuff AND mine. That's why I'll make sure you know you have a package coming the next day. And if you're a regular customer, I'll call ya up and tell ya, "Hey Bob, got one for ya. You want it at the house or ya want me to bring it to the shop?".