Non-1911 SA semi pistol

[Oldnoob]

I recently add a CZ75B SA to my collection (picking it up tomorrow). It's my 3rd SA semi pistol. And I realize, I really do love SAO semi pistol. They usually are simpler in design the DA/SA, and much better trigger (by better I mean smoother, shorter, cleaner break) than DAO or striker fire.

So tell me, what other SA semi pistol are out there. And which one do you have?

I have:

Browning Hi Power
CZ75B SA
Norinco Tok (Type 54-1)

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

There is a SAO version of the SIG P220.

 

[Quoheleth]

The XD series is technically a single-action, per ATF. Trigger isn't 1911/CZ75 quality, but it ain't bad for a striker-fired gun.

Q

 

[gc70]

H&k P7

 

[Oldnoob]

The XD series is technically a single-action, per ATF. Trigger isn't 1911/CZ75 quality, but it ain't bad for a striker-fired gun.

Q

For the purposes of this thread, Glock/XD/M&P alike will be acknowledge as Striker Fire. Since I did mention striker fire on first post.

 

[Quoheleth]

Apologies...didn't read quite far enough. :banghead:

Q

 

[wbwanzer]

How about the Witness Elite Match. Mine is the most accurate 9 that I have.

 

[Gunfighter123]

I think Wbwanzer is correct ---- the EAA Witness Elite Match is THE Best Buy in the non-1911s -------- I own two of them and they are as accurate and reliable as ANY of my custom hi-dollar 1911s { Clark,Wilson ,Nastoff,etc.}

Add the fact you can buy conversion kits and/or barrels for them and you can have .22 , 9mm , 38 Super , 40S&W , 10mm and .45acp -- all on one frame.


EDIT --- they can be found for UNDER $550 ----- link for EAA below;
http://eaacorp.com/handguns-witness-elite.html

 

[Marshall]

The FNP-9 and FNP-40 were made in a SA version. They might be hard to find new, I believe they stopped offering them as an option?

I almost bought a FNP-9 SA with night sights but couldn't swing it. It came about the same time I was buying my son a Browning A5 20 gauge for graduation.

I would have liked to have it though.

 

[NG VI]

An SA FNP sounds like an awesome pistol, I've got a regular DA FNP-9M and love it.

 

[Oldnoob]

I think Wbwanzer is correct ---- the EAA Witness Elite Match is THE Best Buy in the non-1911s -------- I own two of them and they are as accurate and reliable as ANY of my custom hi-dollar 1911s { Clark,Wilson ,Nastoff,etc.}

Add the fact you can buy conversion kits and/or barrels for them and you can have .22 , 9mm , 38 Super , 40S&W , 10mm and .45acp -- all on one frame.


EDIT --- they can be found for UNDER $550 ----- link for EAA below;
http://eaacorp.com/handguns-witness-elite.html

How about the Witness Elite Match. Mine is the most accurate 9 that I have.

I have hear and seem the online for years but still haven't had a first hand experience. How are the EAA compare to CZs?

 

[Oldnoob]

The FNP-9 and FNP-40 were made in a SA version. They might be hard to find new, I believe they stopped offering them as an option?

I almost bought a FNP-9 SA with night sights but couldn't swing it. It came about the same time I was buying my son a Browning A5 20 gauge for graduation.

I would have liked to have it though.

I was a big polymer pistol fan, and FNP sure sounds interesting in SAO mode.

 

[SSN Vet]

Star..

some striker fired pistols maintain the striker in a fully "cocked" state... thinking of the Taurus 24/7 and Mil.Pro. single actions...

 

[wbwanzer]

First let me say that many people really love their CZs. I had a 75B and wantd to love it but I just couldn't shoot well with it. The Witness is based on the CZ 75 but I shoot better with the Witness. It's the most pleasant shooting 9 I've experienced.

I've not owned a 75 in SA only and have not fired one. I played with one in the gun store that had been worked over by Angus. This particular gun was $1100. That was more than I was willing to pay at the time. I'm happy with my Witness Match.

 

[modifiedbrowning]

FN recently renamed their pistol line the FNX and they now come with a safety/decocker lever similar to the USP series (up for safe, down to fire, all the way down to decock).
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/23/fns-fnp-pistols-now-rebranded-as-fnx/

 

[Oldnoob]

FN recently renamed their pistol line the FNX and they now come with a safety/decocker lever similar to the USP series (up for safe, down to fire, all the way down to decock).
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/23/fns-fnp-pistols-now-rebranded-as-fnx/

It's a bit early to call it "renamed". FN haven't release much information other then that statement:

The new FNX 9 and FNX 40 pistols offer the key features demanded by today’s serious handgunner. New ergonomic polymer frames have a low bore axis for flat shooting and less felt recoil resulting in improved control. Deep checkered grip panels are comfortable and designed for no-slip shooting. Four interchangeable backstrap inserts quickly offer a custom fit and feel. The profiled stainless steel slide has cocking serrations front and rear, a 4” hammer-forged stainless barrel delivers long life and pinpoint accuracy. Fully ambidextrous operating controls make the FNX perfect for competition and personal defense for both right and left-handed shooters. Each FNX comes with both a decocker and manual safety making it one of the safest hammer guns on the market. Every part is proudly made in the USA.

But there were multiple threads reviewing about this change. The new FNX looks like a mix between Browning Pro-9 and FNP45. Here is the line up I did in a different thread.

FNX


FNP 9


Browning Pro9


FNP 45

 

[Oldnoob]

First let me say that many people really love their CZs. I had a 75B and wantd to love it but I just couldn't shoot well with it. The Witness is based on the CZ 75 but I shoot better with the Witness. It's the most pleasant shooting 9 I've experienced.

I've not owned a 75 in SA only and have not fired one. I played with one in the gun store that had been worked over by Angus. This particular gun was $1100. That was more than I was willing to pay at the time. I'm happy with my Witness Match.

I have zero experience with Witness. All I ever hear was it's a great CZ clone. And new post "pre-B" CZ will take its mag...etc. But is there anything different internally/externally? What made you shot better for Witness?

PS: I spot the hammer on your Witness is slightly different than standard CZ's.

 

[Oldnoob]

some striker fired pistols maintain the striker in a fully "cocked" state... thinking of the Taurus 24/7 and Mil.Pro. single actions...

I still won't consider that count as SA mode. If a pistol doesn't have a physical hammer, it's a striker fire system. FN 5.7, it's a SA pistol for it does has a physical hammer, just an internal one.

But that's just my opinion. Some people still believe Glock is either a SAO or DAO pistol. (Glock initially call their pistol as DAO too.)

 

[Jim Watson]

Ref Browning FNX

No gun with a double action linkage is going to have as low bore axis as a straight single action. The illustrated pistol is not as tall as a P220, but it is not low by my 1911, P210 standards.

Combination control (up for safe, down to fire, all the way down to decock) carries over the faults of the USP Variant 1-2. Hit the safety hard and the gun decocks inadvertently. Taurus is up for safe, down for fire, WAY up for decock, which is less trouble prone.

 

[NG VI]

I love the control lever on my USP, it has never decocked when I didn't want it to, I can see how the Taurus take on it would be preferable, but personally I've never had an issue with the USP style safety/decocker.

 

[Deanimator]

As you noted, Browning High Power. I carry one ("transitional" 9x19mm with old sights and new safety) all of the time. In fact, I carried one all of last month, until rotating yesterday to my 3" S&W Model 65. I frequently carry the Browning High Power. I just wish I'd bought a .40 S&W gun when CDNN still had them.