"NRA Reportedly $10.8 Million in Debt, Cutting Spending"

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This crap brings on a knee jerk reaction. I wanted to know about the rent for an intern. WLP may be getting some payoff we don't know about. The audit and accountability would get down to the basics. The the actual guilty people can get their day in court. One question that can be answered is how long has this looting been going on. Could this go back as far as the late 1960's?
 
That was uncalled for. We allow posts with new information. If negative information is legitimate, then it is legitimate to post it. Blind loyalty is not a characteristic that is noteworthy in the USA.

I'll leave it stand but to insult the forum staff is not appropriate.
 
Maybe Wayne can get some money back for the organization by putting some of his $275K worth of suits up in a menswear consignment shop ...
That's funny. However, if you notice Wayne's typically frumpy public appearance, you conclude that he's not wearing expensive custom-made suits. The purchase of $275K of suits was, shall we say, "notional." The money was listed as an expense by Ackerman McQueen but in reality was just kicked back in cash to someone. The corruption here knows no bounds. And the ruling clique continues to insult the members' intelligence by putting forth such transparently false cover stories.
 
OH BOY. Another weekly installment of bash the NRA topic.

Yep, let's all support Wayne La Pierre and his chosen lackeys while they play fast and loose with donations: Not!!!!!.

i've been an NRA member for about 60 years. My blind obedience to everything NRA went away years ago. Most NRA members i know have stopped donating.
 
The NRA is not a good steward of member donations.

Calling anything you don’t like “fake news,” “BS,” or written by an “enemy of the people” doesn’t absolve the entity in question of being wrong - it just makes you a lackey for the opposite side. Welcome to intensely tribal politics circa 2008 to the present.

Supporting the NRA no matter what is quickly failing to be a litmus test for pro-2A people. They’re just too broken.

This isn’t a part of a general-purpose NRA hatefest or fake news by enemy of the people journalists - the NRA’s financials are a mess, at the minimum. They may even be criminal.
 
Welcome to intensely tribal politics circa 2008 to the present.

More like circa 1980. Perhaps even earlier.

Supporting the NRA no matter what is quickly failing to be a litmus test for pro-2A people. They’re just too broken.

They're also too well informed. I doubt any of this would have seen much daylight thirty years ago, and if it did, you would only have a handful of people to commiserate with at the range or LGS. Today, it's all over the web, and we can come to THR and commiserate with hundreds, if not thousands, of like minded people.
 
Answers not BS: Would it help the cause is to ignore this situation. Also, would it help the cause to attack the people who are asking for a fair accounting. I resigned after the MSD school shooting. That dog and pony show made more enemies of firearm ownership than most anything lately. That is, until this corruption scandal surfaced. Another member who resigned did so because of outrageous salaries.He resigned before the scandal. What's this drop in membership all about. Designer orange jump suits may be in the future.
 
On the intern's rent - that one could be legit. Housing expenses in Northern Virginia, where the NRA is headquartered, are very high. When I moved there in 2002, I got a one-bedroom apartment just inside the Beltway. It was nice, but hardly opulent. Back then, nearly 17 years ago, my monthly rent (which included utilities) was $945. I shudder to think what that apartment costs now.
 
On the intern's rent - that one could be legit. Housing expenses in Northern Virginia, where the NRA is headquartered, are very high. When I moved there in 2002, I got a one-bedroom apartment just inside the Beltway. It was nice, but hardly opulent. Back then, nearly 17 years ago, my monthly rent (which included utilities) was $945. I shudder to think what that apartment costs now.
Rent for a 1-bedroom apartment in the Fairfax area is less than $2,000 / month. (You can rent an entire townhouse for $3,000 / month.) The NRA was paying more than $4,000 / month for the intern's "rent." Now, assuming that the intern, on paper, was in an "unpaid" position, the excess "rent" could have been disguised salary. But the real question is, what services was she performing, and for whom?
 
I never have understood this mindset that asking legitimate questions about finances and personal behavior come out as NRA haters. There are indications that the NRA is dead in the water directly related to this scandal. What's next. More of this crap appears to be surfacing about the NRA. Why the deficits and why the drop in membership? What's behind the smoke screen. Who is left out on a limb in all this looting and clique behavior. How long has this stuff been going on. The ordinary firearms owner is a victim of this corruption.
 
If the NRA would clean house, get rid of the bad apples and root out the corruption, then rededicate themselves to their core purpose of firearms education and advocacy...then I'd return to the fold. But as long as they're just a propaganda arm of the GOP they won't get another dime from me.
 
How much influence do you think the NRA will have now dead broke? Their finances the subject to state investigations is hinting at serious bad news. The leadership is highly suspect. Doing a cover up, the clique was powerful enough to oust Ollie North, Thinking this will blow over is dreaming. Firearms owners in America have taken a serious hit in addition to being played for suckers. No doubt Fox News can turn all this around and the world will be all OK. The Russian bimbo was passing it around for free so how come the high rent "intern". Not enough class? Oh boy, sunlight is the best antiseptic
 
Don't underestimate the role of rank-and-file members as "enablers" for LaPierre & co. I was at the Nation's Gun Show in Chantilly, Virginia, a couple of weekends ago. Part of the deal there was that you could get in free if you signed up for, or renewed, your NRA membership. By the looks of things, a lot of people were signing up. I hung around the NRA tables for a while, just out of curiosity. I did not hear one word about the ongoing scandals. Nobody gave the recruiters any feedback at all. Judging from this, the NRA management can conclude that it's business as usual. A small slice of activists -- like the people on this forum -- are concerned, but casual gun owners, who might sign up for annual memberships, apparently not so much. This sort of apathy is what LaPierre & co. is banking on. If there was truly a "pitchfork moment," the LaPierre clique would be gone.
 
Where is the Board of Directors? Are they not the ones we ostensibly elect to mind the the business and the purse strings?
 
Where is the Board of Directors? Are they not the ones we ostensibly elect to mind the the business and the purse strings?
The Board is not independent. The way the system is set up (beginning with the nomination process), the Board is directly under the thumb of LaPierre. It's a 100% crony system.
 
I would think that folks like Pete Brownell and Larry Potterfield, reasonably successful business owners, would have the kind of sharp, experienced eyes, and mindset to put an end to squandery and things that make the organization just look bad.
 
I have been tempted when I get the NUMEROUS fund raising phone calls from the NRA that "Wayne wanted me to call you..." to ask if I can get a partial refund of my life membership back.
 
Where is the Board of Directors? Are they not the ones we ostensibly elect to mind the business and the purse strings?

Many members of the BOD are celebrities and business owners who are not involved in running the NRA. By and large the BOD are enablers for La Pierre and his lackeys. BOD member Allen West is an exception:

"West said he informed LaPierre's office prior to the group's annual meeting in April that he believed LaPierre should resign and that he informed the board of his concerns at the meeting.

"Prior to the NRAAM in Indianapolis I sent an email to Wayne LaPierre's managing director, Millie Hallow, expressing my sentiment that Wayne LaPierre resign immediately," he said. "I also drafted a memo entitled ‘Resolution of Concerns.' Both of these statements are known to the NRA board."

"I do not support Wayne LaPierre continuing as the EVP/CEO of the NRA. The vote in Indianapolis was by acclamation, not roll call vote. There is a cabal of cronyism operating within the NRA and that exists within the Board of Directors. It must cease, and I do not care if I draw their angst. My duty and responsibility is to the Members of the National Rifle Association, and my oath, since July 31, 1982, has been to the Constitution of the United States, not to any political party, person, or cabal.""

https://freebeacon.com/issues/allen...f-leaked-nra-memos-nra-leadership-fires-back/

Many NRA members never read anything critical of the NRA. They blow it off as "fake news". Carolyn Meadows, the current NRA president, serves as La Pierre's propaganda minister.
 
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I would think that folks like Pete Brownell and Larry Potterfield, reasonably successful business owners, would have the kind of sharp, experienced eyes, and mindset to put an end to squandery and things that make the organization just look bad.
Brownell just resigned from the Board. He evidently doesn't want to be associated with this mess any more.

The Board, and the President, are just figureheads. LaPierre has spent many years entrenching his position. His whole purpose has been to prevent a recurrence of the 1977 "Revolt in Cincinnati." He has made it so there's no way he can be overthrown (as Ollie North sadly learned).

Aware gun owners had best be looking for other organizations to represent them. The NRA has become nothing more than a LaPierre slush fund.
 
Many NRA members are not aware of La Pierre's shenanigans. Few NRA members ever read anything critical of the NRA.
The NRA publications, such as the American Rifleman, are propaganda organs for the LaPierre cabal. You won't read one word about the scandals in these publications (and that's where most members get their information). However, the presence of the Internet has broken this information monopoly. That's where the more savvy members are now getting their contrarian views. Unfortunately, the "savvy" members still seem to be in the minority.
 
Don't underestimate the role of rank-and-file members as "enablers" for LaPierre & co.

We've got a few right here. I just went through an abbreviated version of this last week. The gun club that runs the Service Rifle match in the area kept asking me for my NRA member number. I finally had to tell them I wasn't a member and hadn't planned on joining again. I wonder if I can be classified for Service Rifle without an NRA membership.
 
We had discussed audit and accountability. This concern has come up here again from a different direction. Would knowledge of this free and easy way with the money can be prosecuted as, "Conspiracy". When some of the enablers figure out they are in a mess you may see rats jumping off ship in droves. Will the enablers use NRA money to bond Wayne out of jail?
 
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