Hopefully this law will be overturned quickly in the courts and those who passed it are shown the door. I doubt it, but we can hope!
Officials in CT stunned by "civil disobedience"
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Rusty Luck said:
That is a made up quote. I don't like it when our side also spreads falsehoods. I don't know how that quote got started.
http://guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus.html
It's not in the TIME man of the year 1938 article.
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760539-1,00.html
Even the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership acknowledge that it is a hoax.
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/faq.htm#faq02
If you really want to know the details of Nazi gun control, there's an excellent, detailed (but extremely long) article here. I highly recommend it.
http://stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf
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Do you have irrefutable proof he didn't say it? I've always seen it quoted by Adolf Hitler. If he didn't say it than do you know who did say it? And FWIW there are people who claim the Holocaust didn't happen and have "proof". I am honestly quite curious about this now. I've done quite a bit if reading on Hitler and WWII and haven't really come across much about it. Besides even if he didn't say it he did do it.
Well, being attributed to 1935, the quote doesn't make much sense. In 1919, the Weimar republic esentially banned all private firearms, with harsh penalties for anyone caught with one. That law was ignored almost universally. In 1928, they loosened that, but still maintained tight control on the weapons now permitted to be in the open.
There was a further law in 1938, but it wasn't necessary to disarm Jews or anyone else. In fact, the article I linked talks about a New York Times article about a 1933 raid on Albert Einstein's (now empty) home, for firearms.
Irregardless, I hope the going ons in CT turn in our favor.
Here's a video clip of some good Hitler quotes.
http://youtu.be/6eryaL_mKuM
Here's a video clip of some good Hitler quotes.
http://youtu.be/6eryaL_mKuM
How can one possibly prove a negative? That's a complete logical fallacy.
Hitler, is kind of the historical "boogie man." If we hate something, it's easy to swing people to our side of an argument just by saying "well it's something Hitler liked, so it must be bad." It's kind of a trump card for schmucks. Hitler also loved painting. Does anyone boycott art museums because of it?
How do you know anyone said it at all? Do you have any idea how many quotes are made up and misattributed to Morgan Freeman? Just because someone wrote something down, and said someone said it, doesn't mean a) that the quote is attributed to the correct person, or b) that it was ever said by anyone at all.
Well someone said it obviously...
Lol, heck no he didn't! Haven't you seen Bruce almighty? Morgan Freeman is God.
Lol, heck no he didn't! Haven't you seen Bruce almighty? Morgan Freeman is God.
He didn't need to. He narrated an exception to the rule, which made it so.*
*In the interest of not blindly linking, a practice upon which we frown on THR, the link is to a humorous youtube video about the power of Morgan Freeman's narration.
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I would worry that they go after no more than a few at a time. Starting with lower visibility targets. Low income, not well liked, preferably a person or persons with pasts that can be used against them. That would be my tactic.
While there could be many reasons, one that hasn't been mentioned is that at least some of these guns might have migrated to other states and been put into safe storage. I presume that a CT statute can only demand that those that are still left must be registured.
Speedo66
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Definitely going to happen. They already have a plan....no doubt. I think we need an extremely high profile case to hit scotus and get rid of all this gray area. It might not ever happen but we at least need to win the battles and hope to win the war.
I'd like to see a minority grandmother with a firearm older than 50 years be arrested first. That's NOT going to happen though.
If your name is on a list at the IRS for belonging to an "uncool" group....you're going to be the first to get your door darkened by the gestapo....no question.
Carl N. Brown
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It is my understanding that at the time of the Australian call-in of registered semi-auto rifles, that the number of registered SKS rifles was about half the total number (known imports less exports).
Yes we do. If the people of CT want to reverse this law they can elect people that will do so. They also have the option to sue to overturn the law if it is found to be unconstitutional.
I wouldn't spend too much time hoping for the court to overturn CT assault weapons ban or registry. As I said earlier; state gun registries have existed for decades. They have been challenged in court and upheld. Likewise assault weapons bans have been challenged and upheld. The Federal ban and California's longstanding ban have been challenged and upheld. CT and New York's recent bans have been challenged and upheld.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
So far the courts have not agreed with the extremes on either side of this issue. They have not held that the second amendment only pertains to organized militia's like state National Guards. Likewise, they haven't agreed with those that only look at the phrase "shall not be infringed" and conclude that no regulations can be put on gun ownership.
CoalTrain49
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Here's another instance of a state passing a law that they can't enforce. Sure, they will probably arrest a few people but who will they be. Some will be doctors and ministers and other prominent upstanding citizens along with the rest. Wait until the media gets cranked up on that. The tax payers might also object to the state spending millions to prosecute all of those otherwise good citizens. Some judges have been known to dismiss cases brought by prosecutors on the grounds that the law is unconstitutional. I'm not sure if judges are elected or appointed in CT, but if they're elected that could put another sharp edge on it.
CT constitution states;
“Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.”
Article 1, Section 15.
I can see several political careers ruined here before the dust settles.
CT constitution states;
“Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.”
Article 1, Section 15.
I can see several political careers ruined here before the dust settles.
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Well, perhaps one day enough people (and not even just Americans) will wake up enough to see that our human rights aren't 'granted' by some so-called 'ruler'. Nor will begging on one's knees convince such 'rulers' to 'give' us anything. Why would they throw away the leverage used to control others & get their stuff ?
All that is passed out is merely what was taken from the citizenry and later distributed, after they take their considerable cut. Most 'rights & privileges granted' are nothing more than a con - granting you what is already yours.
The socio-path/psycho-path control freaks are only half the problem. Ultimately, the real problem is that people are brainwashed to go along with their own enslavement. 2/3 of the population are rule followers that will go along with who they are taught to consider as authority figures since they were little children.
But perhaps some in CT are figuring things out.
All that is passed out is merely what was taken from the citizenry and later distributed, after they take their considerable cut. Most 'rights & privileges granted' are nothing more than a con - granting you what is already yours.
The socio-path/psycho-path control freaks are only half the problem. Ultimately, the real problem is that people are brainwashed to go along with their own enslavement. 2/3 of the population are rule followers that will go along with who they are taught to consider as authority figures since they were little children.
But perhaps some in CT are figuring things out.
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On the news this morning, they stated that CT is now accepting the registrations that were postmarked before Jan 1, 2014 but were not received by Jan 1. Previously, they had to be in their hands by the Jan 1 cutoff. They didn't say how many there were but again stated that about 15% of the "assault rifles" were registered as required by law.
It is really SAD to see the way things have gone in Connecticut over time. I am old enough to remember when Connecticut still had dairy farms, hunting was not necessarily a way of life, but not frowned upon, and there still were at least some jobs in Connecticut. I remember a few old crusty Yankees up there, and I am sure they would all be mortified to see the way the state has gone. Obviously, due to the many firearms manufacturers in the state, the state, historically, has not been anti-firearm. Unfortunately, the anti-gun elite, mostly from NYC, with $$$, have taken over much of the state, or, at least, the nicer parts of the state. It is extremely unfortunate that they wish to 'sanitize' the state to shape it in the image they want it to be. No guns, no hunting, no dairy farms as well! A yuppy elite with little fiscal responsibility (which means high taxes, high expenses, no jobs) have elected to create their idealized view of the world there. Yankee ingenuity is dead, replaced by what you see up there now.
Having said that, I would say that I am young enough to recall that one did not mention in school that one liked to target shoot, deer hunt, etc. I guess that was the beginning of the educational system becoming anti-firearm (or, at least, not 'neutral' with regards to firearms). Of course, if our educators merely suggest that firearms are evil, a generation later, the minds they shaped and molded, think that way as well.
I think, up until just after WWII, Connecticut was a great state. I am too young to remember when it was truly a great place. However, I never, ever expected this, not in my lifetime!
Having said that, I would say that I am young enough to recall that one did not mention in school that one liked to target shoot, deer hunt, etc. I guess that was the beginning of the educational system becoming anti-firearm (or, at least, not 'neutral' with regards to firearms). Of course, if our educators merely suggest that firearms are evil, a generation later, the minds they shaped and molded, think that way as well.
I think, up until just after WWII, Connecticut was a great state. I am too young to remember when it was truly a great place. However, I never, ever expected this, not in my lifetime!
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