Old lights, new lights

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black bear

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am retired now, (as a watchmaker), but for 40 years I had to carry a pistol daily and have been trained shooting with a flashlight since I was 18 years old.

I was forced to even invent a position (in the 60’s) that allowed me to see the lousy sights of the military 1911 and the Walther pre-war PPK that I was using at the time.
Of course in those days even the flashlights were lousy; I used to carry a 2 C cell Eveready Captain, and for night shooting, my position indexed the light on top of my head (so the beam fall on the sights and into the target)

The 2 C Eveready Captain of the 60's

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I had in my twenties a handful of confrontations with bad guys and that position and the lousy light served well enough to “see” the opponent.
There was no blinding effect in those days with 14 to 20 lumens lights (estimated),and it would have been nice to have one of the Surefires back then; even the little E2e will have been a blessing.

I started carrying a Surefire 6 in 1988 (I had two of the first batch to come out of the factory) and graduated to the 9 P a few years later.

The Surefire 6 (first of the Surefires)


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My favorite to carry was the 9 P with the P-91 (200 lumens lamp), and is still is today in the shape of the Centurion C-3 as I use the clip instead of a holster for carrying the light on my person.
I also adopted a Tiger Ring that permits me to do quick magazines changes or clear a stovepipe (in practice) without getting tangled by a lanyard.

The Surefire C-3 and the Streamlight TL-3 with Tiger Rings

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Another light that is always in my pocket is the Fenix L1P (used to be an ARC AAA) it is small, lightweight, and powerful (at 40 lumens) for its size.

The Fenix L1P and the LOP with the ARC AAA

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To blind an opponent, lots of lumens are needed. I used to have near me a Surefire M-6 with the 500 lumens lamp, and this is a great light that will do the job very well.

The Surefire M-6 (500 lumens for 20 minutes)

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Now I am using one of my conversions of the Maglite it is the MAG 951 generation II flashlight and it outputs 1050 lumens and uses rechargeable batteries (so free to run as much as you like without guilt) and also another conversion called the Black Bear 678 that is made on the host of the Maglite 2 D.
These lights are always near me in the house and in my car, the longer MAG 951 inhabiting the floor under the seat and the shorter Black Bear 678 (10 “) residing in my glove compartment.

The MAG 951 II and Black Bear 678 lights together with my Gov't .45 with Laser Grips.


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So, much has changed in the last 40 years in the flashlight field since I started using the 2 C Eveready Captain from the top of the head position (no longer necessary with the powerful lights of today). Yet it is interesting, in retrospect, to glance back at the evolution of lights through all these years, and one can only wonder what marvels the future will bring.

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Black bear
 
Man, I'm just cracking up, thinking of you out there holding a flashlight on your head. :D Walking around like that must have done wonders for your posture!

No, really very interesting stuff, even thought I though you were talking about religious revivals of the colonial period, but I read too much.
 
Great post....informative and interesting.

I'm using both Streamlight TL3's; Xenon 211 lumens and LED 90 lumens.
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Here's a 30-some year old Kel-Lite from yesteryear that we used with the Police Issue
High Standard model 10B 12 ga.

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SkyGuy,
Thank you for the GREAT pictures, I am glad to see the old 10B in such a good condition.

I always wondered how the bulb took the recoil of the gun, maybe the double spring holder helped to attenuate it?

I got my Kel-Lites from Bianchi Leather Goods of El Paso, back in the seventies.
Here they are, the 2 C and the 3 C. Kel-lites (I still have them)

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Best wishes
black bear
 
black bear, great post. I still have my 2 C cell Eveready Captain.
Your post brings back lots of memories. Thanks.
 
Skyguy, nice pics. How does the mounting rail work, and attach to the flashlight?

I have something of a little vintage police flashlight collection. I'm close to having every brand of LEO flashlight from 1968 to 1988 or so, and then I suppose I'll start in on getting every model, and then I guess the next step is one of those internet museums. Hmm, anyone out there want to find new homes for their wayward flashlights? Always looking...

I actually use newer (Streamlight, Surefire custom, etc) lights, but nothing worth a photo spread. Keep planning on making a couple Mag85s like the ones Black Bear assembles but for now I run an MC60 Magcharger mod as my power light.

Here's a photo from when the family was smaller, and it also doesn't show the accessories, parts, or paperwork:

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Here's a photo from when the family was smaller, and it also doesn't show the accessories, parts, or paperwork:
Nor does it show the time invested. Great collection!
How does the mounting rail work, and attach to the flashlight?
There are 2 pins on the sight rail and a screw with a round knurled head. The mating flashlight rail has the holes for the pins and a threaded hole for the screw.
Push the light onto the pins, turn the screw tight and that's it. Very solid.
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ABTOMAT
I have seen them before, but I always marvel at your extensive collection, congratulations in getting them all together.

I don't collect the old ones, but a few have managed to stick to the family, the first one from left is an old Eveready 2D with the fish eye lens, I think is dated from the 1920's.

The second one is a Rayovac Sportsman 3D with the hexagonal bezel, the third one is an Eveready Sportsman 3D, they were working lights at the ranch and they all still work.

The Brinkmann 5-3-2 is a 3 section barrel flashlight that can be converted to a 2D or 3D or 5D light by taken out the barrels or joining them all, it is from the 80's and I have used it together with a gun in an incident, so it is for me of sentimental value.

The Pelican Swat Lite Submersible 3 C is also from the 80's it has a two position switch and a bulb with two filaments, the first position is for flood and the second for spot.
It was quite powerful for its time with the rare halogen bulb.

Old lights like old whiskey just get better, at least in our memory

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Regards
black bear
 
Will Learn,
I make them, click on the link under my signature and it will open on a thread that I have in the Buy Sell Trade/Accessories.
Please P.M. me if you need more information
Best regards
black bear
 
Head on over to candlepowerforums.com and check out how to make your own. The most popular ones right now are generically known as the Mag85 and ROP. It's mostly just parts swapping.
 
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