One last chance: Colorado's governor
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Well, judging by the traffic, I'd say a few extra people eating out on a Wednesday would do the job of crippling Denver
Frankly, what Colorado needs is a general police strike, if the proper measures of voting and court action are unable to effect change. The cities and government have made it clear they don't give a hoot about the circumstances of the ban (constitutionality, logic, widespread outrage, etc.) because they've got an idea in their heads and the backing of outsiders undoubtedly with promises of greater things (of money, gold, and diamond rings). However, they still need the police to enforce the law, or at least to be willing to, if they are to point at the law as a success rather than an embarrassment.
If the police forces of Colorado take a general stand that they will not enforce this law, no matter how sparingly it may be applied, and then actually follow through on their word, the law can be neutered or nullified by going around the whole dang system. Such a coup is troubling, since it undermines the base legitimacy and authority of the state government; but the state organs have just shown they are no longer ruling legitimately per their governing documents. The stories describing the near-complete subversion of due process for these bills is eerily reminiscent of the "debate" in New York for the SAFE act, where a great many elected officials railed against the unfair proceedings even as they voted for (and against) the act.
No policeman should have any interest in enforcing such an unfair law, let alone suffer the physical threats posed by implementing it--even if only sparingly and to otherwise criminal individuals. Say no to the law now, strip it of all power and legitimacy, and force the usurpers in "Denver, New York" to try another tactic.
TCB
*Saw the articles today about the anti's now turning their evil eye on Wyoming (yet another Californian refuge), and I also "just happened" to hear a story on NPR about the "highest suicide rate and gun culture" in that state and how action was needed. Guess we know where the next battle lines are being drawn (I'm certain Austin,TX is next after that, and will include their attempt the swing the state). We all said "whatever" when that race in Chicago was swung by meddlers, and now Colorado has fallen. Wyoming appears next. If anything, Bloomberg is becoming emboldened by what he has found is an effective strategy for subverting Democracy and the rule of law.
"It is said that the Hornburg has never fallen to assault... but now my heart is doubtful. The world changes, and all that once was strong now proves unsure. How shall any tower withstand such numbers and such reckless hate?" --JRR Tolkien
Frankly, what Colorado needs is a general police strike, if the proper measures of voting and court action are unable to effect change. The cities and government have made it clear they don't give a hoot about the circumstances of the ban (constitutionality, logic, widespread outrage, etc.) because they've got an idea in their heads and the backing of outsiders undoubtedly with promises of greater things (of money, gold, and diamond rings). However, they still need the police to enforce the law, or at least to be willing to, if they are to point at the law as a success rather than an embarrassment.
If the police forces of Colorado take a general stand that they will not enforce this law, no matter how sparingly it may be applied, and then actually follow through on their word, the law can be neutered or nullified by going around the whole dang system. Such a coup is troubling, since it undermines the base legitimacy and authority of the state government; but the state organs have just shown they are no longer ruling legitimately per their governing documents. The stories describing the near-complete subversion of due process for these bills is eerily reminiscent of the "debate" in New York for the SAFE act, where a great many elected officials railed against the unfair proceedings even as they voted for (and against) the act.
No policeman should have any interest in enforcing such an unfair law, let alone suffer the physical threats posed by implementing it--even if only sparingly and to otherwise criminal individuals. Say no to the law now, strip it of all power and legitimacy, and force the usurpers in "Denver, New York" to try another tactic.
TCB
*Saw the articles today about the anti's now turning their evil eye on Wyoming (yet another Californian refuge), and I also "just happened" to hear a story on NPR about the "highest suicide rate and gun culture" in that state and how action was needed. Guess we know where the next battle lines are being drawn (I'm certain Austin,TX is next after that, and will include their attempt the swing the state). We all said "whatever" when that race in Chicago was swung by meddlers, and now Colorado has fallen. Wyoming appears next. If anything, Bloomberg is becoming emboldened by what he has found is an effective strategy for subverting Democracy and the rule of law.
"It is said that the Hornburg has never fallen to assault... but now my heart is doubtful. The world changes, and all that once was strong now proves unsure. How shall any tower withstand such numbers and such reckless hate?" --JRR Tolkien
CoRoMo
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I just heard that all were signed into law.
Curse Hickenlooper and the law makers who passed these laws.
Curse Hickenlooper and the law makers who passed these laws.
Another link from Yahoo news/AP, but they point out his flip flop:
http://news.yahoo.com/colo-gun-restrictions-bring-political-peril-073317831.html
http://news.yahoo.com/colo-gun-restrictions-bring-political-peril-073317831.html
xfyrfiter
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The county sheriff is still the chief law enforcement officer in their respective counties, if all of them refuse to enforce these unconstitutional laws, and arrest any other officer be they state, city, or federal attempting to usurp their authority, these laws will not stand for long. At least in NM this is the way the law has been interpreted. This may be true or not, just heresay in my case.
I heard Colorado's Correction Chief was shot and killed this morning as he went to answer the door. First of all, my sincere condolences to his family and friends. Our thoughts and prayers are with you at this very difficult time. My question to Hickenlooper is, "Are your newly signed laws going to prevent murders like this"? How many times was he shot? Is a high cap mag only used in murders? Was the killer a repeat offender that some lenient judge or Obama put back on the street? :banghead:
Rod
SharpsDressedMan
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I'm wondering if the shooter might be a pro gun fanatic, shot the first high law enforcement official he knew that was advocating the new gun laws, and whether the governor needs to be worried...........
jerkface11
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You sound like part of the Brady campaign.
I'm sure the chief of corrections has plenty of enemies.
I'm sure the chief of corrections has plenty of enemies.
Steel Horse Rider
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It was an execution from the early reporting of the facts. Probably from our friends the Saudi's for refusing to transfer a convicted sex offender who happens to be a Saudi national back to Saudi Arabi because he refused counseling. I fear this story will get a lot of spin.
If you still have the energy to write your opinion on these laws, write it on the Governors FB wall...
https://www.facebook.com/JohnHickenlooper?fref=ts
I did. It appears a lot of people are.
https://www.facebook.com/JohnHickenlooper?fref=ts
I did. It appears a lot of people are.
SharpsDressedMan
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Right. He'll probably take the afterthoughts to heart about as much as he did just BEFORE he signed the bill.
76shuvlinoff
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You have to hit the pocketbooks and wallets to sway the morally superior.
CO sherifs are already planning to take this stuff to court.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/03/20/legal-challenge-already-planned-to-gun-control-laws/
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/03/20/legal-challenge-already-planned-to-gun-control-laws/
briney11
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I just posted on his facebook page that my family of 7 will never vacation in Colorado again because of these laws that he signed.
longknife12
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Arbo, just saw pics of this rally in west slope....also heared Hicks replys.
Same arrogance we have had throughout this!ALL of em are bouight n paid for! Serfs no longer control Colorado.
Time for recalls n courts.
Dan
Same arrogance we have had throughout this!ALL of em are bouight n paid for! Serfs no longer control Colorado.
Time for recalls n courts.
Dan
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