One last chance: Colorado's governor

[freyasman]

Ok, I hit the one to the Governor; anything else I can do?

 

[tyeo098]

Looks like I'll be skiing in Utah this year.

 

[KTXdm9]

I emailed the Governor to let him know I will spend my tourism dollars elsewhere if he signs these bills. Good luck Colorado, you'll need it.

 

[CoRoMo]

It would be something to see the skiing and hunting revenue plummet like a rock in this state. It would likely just be chalked up to 'the recession' and the state would ignore all claims that they made the mess themselves.

A business owner up where I hunt elk had been fighting the state for many years to stop ruining businesses in the state. His business is solely tourism based, nothing else. As the Division of Wildlife continued to raise out-of-state hunting license rates, he watched the number of hunters dwindle down next to nothing. He began losing money rather than turning profit. The business leaders in his county united to petition for a new ski area in their county so that those businesses didn't all die out from the stranglehold placed on them. The state denied the ski area and that was the last straw. He's out of business for good, moved elsewhere to do other things. The people who worked for him lost their jobs. Bravo state, bravo.

 

[230RN]

Justin said,

To those of you who are naysaying the work and time it takes to fill out an online form, please just go away. We need to pursue every avenue available to make our voices heard, and shooting down other people's actions without offering a positive solution of your own is of absolutely no help to anyone whatsoever.

I agree, and some posters obviously thought it was a waste of time.

I think, and think only, that he was kind of waffly on gun control anyhow, but had to walk on eggshells about the subject because of the Party position prior to the anti-gun plank being removed from the Party platform at a strategic time in the Presidential campaign.. It was only about two weeks after the last Presidential election that he seemed to have turned around, and you can read into that what you want.

My gut feeling is that he is looking for a valid excuse to veto these bills, in the form of seeking overwhelming direct input from the people of Colorado.

Thus, according to my gut and my crystal ball, if he in fact hears enough objections to the present anti-gun climate, he may well veto them and say the hell with the Party's Pressure.

Bear in mind that we have had a number of party-switches in the past, the most notable being Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell, who switched to Republican after his re-election a couple of decades ago.

Just my gut feelings and the view into my recently-dusted-off crystal ball.

Terry, 230RN

 

[Prophet]

Is there anyone else we can contact for you guys in CO? For those of us who have already contacted the governor, is there any harm in following up with a second correspondence? I've been sharing this with everyone I know, and the guys and gals over at PAFOA are writing the governor as well.

 

[csspecs]

Figure it like this.. When you have a problem you need an answer to you ask your peers.. So effect his.

Start emailing all the ones that voted FOR the ban, telling them your not coming to CO for vacation because of this ban, because you like target shooting on vacation ect.

Email RV parks, recreational locations ect. Enough collective whining adds to the worry of fallout. PS False promises of business is wrong, but pointing out that it eliminates your passing through is scary.

Sadly I did have both business and vacation plans for 2013 and 2014 mess up by this. I'll just stay in WY instead, it is sad as CO had some interesting fossil exhibits, Utah has some as well (they restrict booze right?).

 

[Prophet]

Email RV parks, recreational locations ect.

csspecs suggestion makes sense. Anyone who had plans to travel to CO who is now canceling due to the law should be sure to contact any facilities or businesses they planned to take advantage of, apologetically and politely letting them know that you will now be foregoing travel to CO because of the laws. It might be a nice idea to link them the governor's contact information, making it easier for them to direct their frustrations at losing business in the right direction.

In the meantime, I'll be writing those who voted in favor of the ban to let them know I won't be traveling to CO as a result of their law requiring me to relinquish my civil rights.

 

[HorseSoldier]

^^^^^

Well said and a good point.

Elected officials may take notice of communication from out of state that they're losing money because of their policies. I suspect they'll take much more notice of communication from voters in Colorado talking about how out of state tourists are giving them a pass.

 

[philbily]

Sent to the Gov. Hope it helps. You all have a great state worth saving. Too bad it's being invaded by a bunch of people that's trashed their own states.

 

[Lizard1911]

Be sure to hit this poll as well- the governor will undoubtedly see it. It may very well make a bit of a difference.

http://www.denverpost.com/opinionpol...ubnav_Op_Polls

Apparently the majority WANT the magazine ban.

 

[rvanpelt]

Email sent. Hope it's not too late, neighbor.
Rod van Pelt

 

[Old Fuff]

Apparently the majority WANT the magazine ban.

I just looked, and it's almost 90% against...

The question is badly written, in that you have to vote FOR to mean you're against recent Democrat anti-gun bills.

 

[Arbo]

Apparently the majority WANT the magazine ban.

It was 80-90% against for a long time, I looked in the middle of the night and it appears that anti-gun groups must have hit it hard as they bypassed the pro-gun people and had a 63% advantage. Showing those polls don't matter.

Suddenly this morning the pro side gaind 10K votes and is slightly up.

 

[mrnic3guy1989]

I sent him an email because were all in this together.

 

[xfyrfiter]

I sent my letter, but I truly believe that all of this is bought and paid for by Bloomberg and company. They are as crooked as a barrel of rattlers, and just as poisonous .

 

[Prophet]

Just posted by Magpul on FB

http://thecoloradoobserver.com/2013/03/hickenlooper-asked-to-block-mag-ban/

DENVER – As a proposed ban on firearm magazines approved last week by the legislature inched closer to becoming law, Magpul Industries Corp. sent a detailed letter to Governor Hickenlooper asking him to veto the bill.

The proposed ban, House Bill 1224, would bar the sale or transfer of magazines capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition as well as those which hold fewer rounds, but are “designed to be readily converted” to hold 15 or more.

Concern has erupted in recent weeks over the “readily converted” language, which some say covers almost any removable firearm magazine, and could result in an outright ban on some firearms with internal magazines.

“The bill defines restricted magazines as any that that are ‘designed to be readily converted’ to accept more than fifteen rounds,” wrote Magpul’s attorney Jonathan Anderson, a partner at the law firm of Holland & Hart, in the letter to Hickenlooper. “The simple fact is that virtually every magazine on the market has an open floor plate, and that design makes every magazine readily convertible.”

Magpul’s letter comes on the heels of investigative reports by 9News’ Kyle Clark and CBS4’s Shaun Boyd raising serious questions about the proposal’s scope.

The Independence Institute’s Jon Caldara also drew attention to concerns about the bill on Wednesday, releasing a one-minute video in which the think tank president demonstrates how easily the capacity of a standard 15-round magazine can be increased using an extender.

Anderson’s letter on behalf of Magpul suggests that the bill would have far-reaching consequences that could actually make several firearm models with internal magazines illegal.

“[The bill] makes it illegal to purchase, inherit, or even possess existing firearms that have an internal ammunition source over 15 rounds other than .22 caliber or lever action firearms. This includes several popular firearm models, such as the Taurus 45 bolt action rifle … and the SKS line of rifles,” Anderson wrote. “If HB 1224 is signed into law, individuals who possess this type of firearm after July 1, 2013 would be guilty of a criminal offense.”

The letter also notes the legislation contains no allowances for historic guns, or those which may be family heirlooms.

“Unlike similar laws in other states, HB 1224 does not contain an antique or vintage firearm exemption, so all firearms of this type are prohibited,” the analysis continues. “This means that a Colorado citizen cannot even pass this type of weapon down to his son or daughter, even if it is an antique or vintage firearm.”

Hickenlooper indicated in late February that he would sign HB 1224, but some gun rights backers are hoping that recent uproar over the bill’s unintended consequences will give the governor reason to reconsider.

Magpul Dynamics director Duane Liptak Jr. reiterated calls for Hickenlooper to reject the bill during a Friday appearance on KOA-AM’s “The Mike Rosen Show.”

“We just want to get the word out for everybody in Colorado to continue to contact Gov. Hickenlooper, be civil in your commentary, but urge him to veto HB 1224 and everything else that may be in front of him to keep Colorado free and maintain the individual rights of Coloradans,” Liptak said.

Keep up the correspondence!

 

[coloradokevin]

Apparently the majority WANT the magazine ban.

First, don't ever assume that the majority want something based on the opinion polls on the Denver Post. Many of the gun owners and LEOs I know refuse to even read that paper. Though it is the primary paper in the Denver area, it tends to appeal more to Democrats than Republicans, at least in my experiences.

Secondarily, that poll wasn't fairly answered. We were up in it for most of the time, and still were the last I checked. But, at one point the anti-gun answer was increasing at a rate of about 5 responses per second. There's no way those were actual responses to a poll that wasn't moving that fast for most of the time.

Finally, no newspaper poll ever fully reflects the views of the population. WE don't want these laws in Colorado, and the majority do NOT support them.

 

[Bad Andy]

I work as a Seasonal Wilderness Ranger in Durango, this will be the last year, Wyoming next year.

 

[Elkins45]

Hickenlooper has a D next to his name. Do you really think he'll veto?

Kentucky's Governor is a Democrat. I can't imagine him ever signing such a bill. It would be the end of him as a viable political figure in KY.

I'm generally disdainful of Democrats as well, but there many southern ones that are Democrats more out of tradition than out of beliefs.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

Kentucky apparenly hasn't had the influx of liberal thinking people that Colorado has "enjoyed" ever since John Denver started singing about it (Colorado) and drawing people to it, and people started to flee California (and other liberal areas) with their money and ideas. The "natives" of Colorado noticed the migration, and pointed it out to me as early as 30 years ago. The free, self-reliant, traditionally "western" lifestyle and philosophy of Colorado has been eroded ever since then, if not before.

 

[84B20]

Message sent. I mentioned that I am a former resident of Colorado and was even married there and if this bill is signed into law I will no longer spend my time or money there.

 

[HKGuns]

I am out of Sate and sent my request to Veto. I also informed him if this passes I will never spend another dollar in his State.

 

[barnbwt]

I've notified the gubner via email that my (admittedly low budget, but still ) upcoming vacation will be detoured elsewhere if he allows his state to take an antagonistic stance toward law-abiding gun owners and enthusiasts (due to wrist/elbow/shoulder injuries, pistol grips are what's most comfortable for me, dammit! ). That I wouldn't be shooting there anyway will have no bearing on my distaste for a region that would seek to discriminate (and incriminate) me for innocent behavior.

TCB

 

[biohazurd]

Ive sent 3 letters to Hickenlooper as of yet 2 digital and one paper. I didnt move to this state to have my rights stolen from me for being a law abiding citizen.