One last chance: Colorado's governor
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HorseSoldier
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+1. Tourism is big business in Colorado. Telling the elected leadership you plan to spend your vacation or hunting trip $$$ elsewhere means they are having to look at lost direct tax revenue and lost jobs. Voters who lose jobs tend to be prone to voting new ideas into office, etc.
Sock Puppet
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Done. I live very close to the CO line, and made it clear that his signing of the bill would impact whether I continued to shop, invest, hunt, fish, buy real estate, etc in CO.
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You know, it would've taken far less effort on your part to send one email to Chickenlooper instead of the countless ones here chiding those that do.
TenDriver
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Done.
Colorado Kevin; my grandfather traveled to your state after he got back from the Pacific Theatre and trained MPs there who were heading to Korea. He always spoke so fondly of Colorado and said that if he could move, he would move there. He's passed on, but as someone who joined the Army so he could shoot guns, he would not be happy at all about the current goings-on in his other favorite state.
Done... I grew up in Southern CO Nothern NM. I still spend a lot of money in that state Hunting and skiing and 4 wheeling. Those dollars will be going elsewhere as I will not be deemed a criminal for crossing state lines. Sad times indeed.
Outlaw Man
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Done. Good luck, guys!
Freedom isn't free, but Tyranny can have someone else's tax dollars.
Freedom isn't free, but Tyranny can have someone else's tax dollars.
My note, from a former resident:
For those complaining that a note will be ineffective, it is my hope that you dashed of a message before throwing up your hands. Typing that note literally took me as long as creating this message did. Remember, it can't hurt, but it might help. Even if that chance is only .5% it's still time well spent.
For those complaining that a note will be ineffective, it is my hope that you dashed of a message before throwing up your hands. Typing that note literally took me as long as creating this message did. Remember, it can't hurt, but it might help. Even if that chance is only .5% it's still time well spent.
CoRoMo
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Contacted again.
I invite you to sit this thread out. We will be far more productive with you elsewhere.
You are incorrect. You are uninformed about how he became governor here.
I invite you to sit this thread out. We will be far more productive with you elsewhere.
Message sent. I emphasized how much my family and I have enjoyed past vacations in Colorado and were looking forward to future visits. I made it clear we won't be back if HB13-1224 becomes law. I asked him not to sign it. Here's hoping he has some backbone to stand up to the tremendous pressure he is catching to sign it.
I used the Magpul Facebook account to send an email to the Governor. (I don't "do" Facebook. I have an account, though, to access a "private" group. I don't post anything to my own page, though.)
I'm from out of state, so I don't know how much my voice will count, but here is what I wrote:
I'm from out of state, so I don't know how much my voice will count, but here is what I wrote:
tyeo098
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Email sent 'other' I mad about ALL the bills.
Axel Larson
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Done and good luck. My wife and I were thinking of moving to CO in the future but if this bill passes we will not do so.
Here's the note I just sent Gov. Hickenlooper
Dear Gov. Hickenlooper,
As ski enthusiasts, my family and I frequent CO (various resorts/mountains) annually to ski and have thoroughly enjoyed our experiences over the years.
Having said that, we also are very intentional with how and where we commit our resources. Given the recent legislation (not just the noted bill above - you can only pick one here), however, we will no longer visit Colorado for our vacations (and will be sure to convince all of our friends who ski to do the same) if all of these draconian bills are signed into law.
Candidly, I hope that Magpul (and others) also vote with their resources and relocate their business to another state. Sometimes it is necessary for actions, versus words, to demonstrate how truly serious we are about our rights.
Drafting, passing and enacting laws based on emotion versus factual/logical impact is simply unacceptable and is contrary to effective governance. "See what I did to protect you?" is not a strong platform upon which legislators should campaign during an election cycle. Sadly, career politics has poisoned the well.
We sincerely hope you will consider these circumstances when you weigh whether or not to sign these "gun control" bills into law. As drafted, and in my humble opinion, none will have a significant impact on the intent.
Respectfully,
XXXXXX
Orlando, FL
Dear Gov. Hickenlooper,
As ski enthusiasts, my family and I frequent CO (various resorts/mountains) annually to ski and have thoroughly enjoyed our experiences over the years.
Having said that, we also are very intentional with how and where we commit our resources. Given the recent legislation (not just the noted bill above - you can only pick one here), however, we will no longer visit Colorado for our vacations (and will be sure to convince all of our friends who ski to do the same) if all of these draconian bills are signed into law.
Candidly, I hope that Magpul (and others) also vote with their resources and relocate their business to another state. Sometimes it is necessary for actions, versus words, to demonstrate how truly serious we are about our rights.
Drafting, passing and enacting laws based on emotion versus factual/logical impact is simply unacceptable and is contrary to effective governance. "See what I did to protect you?" is not a strong platform upon which legislators should campaign during an election cycle. Sadly, career politics has poisoned the well.
We sincerely hope you will consider these circumstances when you weigh whether or not to sign these "gun control" bills into law. As drafted, and in my humble opinion, none will have a significant impact on the intent.
Respectfully,
XXXXXX
Orlando, FL
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You never know. (D's) in more traditional/conservative states do sometimes vote in favor of 2A rights despite their party affiliation. For many years (D's) warned fellow D's to avoid the 3 G's of politics, that being God, guns & gays.
Granted I don't know this guys politics, but remember that the NRA does recommend and help some pro-2A D's because they might be liberal on other issues(maybe not), but when it comes to the RKBA, they are pro 2A.
The bottom line is most politicians want to be re-elected, and if they feel this issue will lead to them losing, they might change their mind. It does not matter whether they have a D or R next to their name.
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The more likely "last chance" will be the 2014 mid-term elections. By then the various legislators will have created a voting record, and no matter what they claim we will know who really backs Second Amendment rights, and who doesn't. Then we will have our say, and it won't be in the form of e-mails and letters. 
jerkface11
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He'll have to weigh the costs of signing it and earning the ire of a large group of voters or vetoing it and earning the ire of his party. Our governor in Arkansas was too big of a coward to make that decision so he simply did nothing allowing the last pro-gun bill to pass into law without his signature.
fuff, the record is created, we know who voted for and against.
Unfortunately for the (D) that voted against it the only chance to overturn it is to change the majority to (R) in House, Senate, and Governor. They all have to go, whether they voted against it or not. If (D) retain control anywhere any repeal will just get buried.
Unfortunately for the (D) that voted against it the only chance to overturn it is to change the majority to (R) in House, Senate, and Governor. They all have to go, whether they voted against it or not. If (D) retain control anywhere any repeal will just get buried.
Hickenlooper is a big government control statist. It can't hurt to let him know where you stand, but don't get your hope up. When he was mayor of Denver he presided over the strictest gun laws in the state. He is totally behind this stuff.
I was looking at a bigger picture, but anyway...
As a practical matter I suspect that most of the anti-representatives are located in safe urban districts, but those that are not, as well as some senators are fair game. It seems clear to me that many (if not most) of those legislators who are backing these bills - in Colorado and elsewhere - are acting on a basis of ideology and emotionalism and ignoring communications from constituents.
Colorado's governor may be an excellent example, but he is not only jeopardizing his chances to remain in office in his home state, but also likely to find he's out of luck when it comes to top elective positions at the national level. (Think U.S. Senator or V.P.) for which he has high hopes. I personally believe that by the time he discovers this it will be too late.
Fortunately at the present time Colorado’s legislature is nearly evenly divided, and a relatively few seats have to change hands to get the desired result. I wish you luck.
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