The Last Confederate
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- Jun 11, 2004
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Secession of a state (via the “Freestate Project) is the only plausible step toward achieving our desired goal of liberty and firearms rights. The freestate project can NOT reach it’s desired goal if it insists on remaining a part of the union. Even if liberty oriented people dominate the state legislative body, even if we have LP senators and a governor, all we could hope to do is to effect and change all the state laws. We will still have almost zero federal impact. 90%+ of the most restrictive firearms laws are those which are federal in nature.
If the freestate project chooses to remain in the union, it’s citizens would still have to put up with all the immoral and illegal federal laws, from welfare, to gun laws, to taxes and homeland security.
Secession is the only solution toward creating a TRULY free state where we can enjoy unadulterated arms ownership. It is the only way in which we can bypass the federal laws by throwing off the federal yoke of oppression. The union has become tyrannical and secession is the last peaceful method possible for free men to deal with the tyranny. However, in order to secede we need support of the state legislator, which is why the FSP is such a good idea. So we can get control of the legislative body in order to be able to pass a resolution toward secession from the tyrannical union and get on the road toward a truly free state. However, by remaining part of the union this can never be so.
If by remaining part of the union, even if the freedom lovinging citizens control the state legislative body and enact the few local changes a state is still capable of enacting, the goal of the project will fail. Even if other states take notice of the local success of the FSP and turn into “Free states†of their own, they will still be coerced into abiding by all of the tyrannical and oppressive federal legislation. Effecting change in State laws is nice and all, but these days, the monolithic Fed has so much say and control over our lives, much more than the state gov. does. It simply isn’t enough to abide by the Federal’s authoritarianism, while letting New Hampshire do the few things which the Federal union has not yet mandated for it.
Two libertarian senators will have no meaningful effect in the senate. Neither would 4, or six. Our goal is to achieve as much liberty as quickly as possible. To do this would require the nullification of countless tyrannical Federal laws. There are tens of thousands of these already on the books. Now, to work within the system to achieve this is not only a delusion of naivety (name me one great change that was made from working within the system), but even if it WAS possible, it would take too bloody long. Even if we had the support in the congress, senate, executive, judicial, and within the constitutes themselves, to get our bills passed to legalize all things from narcotics, to prostitution, and the private ownership of all forms of weaponry, to the abolition of social security and wel-fare it would take years and years of introducing thousands of bills to gradually turn the tide that authoritarianism has already taken on this country.
Sure, you could try to change the country by passing one mega “freedom bill†that would instantly liberate the country. However, such a mammoth bill would never have any hope in hell to be supported or passed by any legislative body on the face of this earth, now or at any time in history’s past.
Which brings me back to my previous point, “changing the system by working within the systemâ€. I’m afraid such is an outright impossibility. No system on earth has ever been changed by working within it, indeed, it is outside the best interests of the system to create provisions for which it can be abolished. Sure, our founding fathers tried to initiate such a system in the beginning of this nation, but as so often happens, it too has become corrupted beyond conventional means of repair (conventional, IE, working within it to change it).
That is why secession provides us with the only feasible and reasonable solution toward achieving a free and liberated society. It is much easier to liberate a state with many likeminded people than it is to liberated a Massive Confederated nation full of ideologically hostile people.
If the freestate project chooses to remain in the union, it’s citizens would still have to put up with all the immoral and illegal federal laws, from welfare, to gun laws, to taxes and homeland security.
Secession is the only solution toward creating a TRULY free state where we can enjoy unadulterated arms ownership. It is the only way in which we can bypass the federal laws by throwing off the federal yoke of oppression. The union has become tyrannical and secession is the last peaceful method possible for free men to deal with the tyranny. However, in order to secede we need support of the state legislator, which is why the FSP is such a good idea. So we can get control of the legislative body in order to be able to pass a resolution toward secession from the tyrannical union and get on the road toward a truly free state. However, by remaining part of the union this can never be so.
If by remaining part of the union, even if the freedom lovinging citizens control the state legislative body and enact the few local changes a state is still capable of enacting, the goal of the project will fail. Even if other states take notice of the local success of the FSP and turn into “Free states†of their own, they will still be coerced into abiding by all of the tyrannical and oppressive federal legislation. Effecting change in State laws is nice and all, but these days, the monolithic Fed has so much say and control over our lives, much more than the state gov. does. It simply isn’t enough to abide by the Federal’s authoritarianism, while letting New Hampshire do the few things which the Federal union has not yet mandated for it.
Two libertarian senators will have no meaningful effect in the senate. Neither would 4, or six. Our goal is to achieve as much liberty as quickly as possible. To do this would require the nullification of countless tyrannical Federal laws. There are tens of thousands of these already on the books. Now, to work within the system to achieve this is not only a delusion of naivety (name me one great change that was made from working within the system), but even if it WAS possible, it would take too bloody long. Even if we had the support in the congress, senate, executive, judicial, and within the constitutes themselves, to get our bills passed to legalize all things from narcotics, to prostitution, and the private ownership of all forms of weaponry, to the abolition of social security and wel-fare it would take years and years of introducing thousands of bills to gradually turn the tide that authoritarianism has already taken on this country.
Sure, you could try to change the country by passing one mega “freedom bill†that would instantly liberate the country. However, such a mammoth bill would never have any hope in hell to be supported or passed by any legislative body on the face of this earth, now or at any time in history’s past.
Which brings me back to my previous point, “changing the system by working within the systemâ€. I’m afraid such is an outright impossibility. No system on earth has ever been changed by working within it, indeed, it is outside the best interests of the system to create provisions for which it can be abolished. Sure, our founding fathers tried to initiate such a system in the beginning of this nation, but as so often happens, it too has become corrupted beyond conventional means of repair (conventional, IE, working within it to change it).
That is why secession provides us with the only feasible and reasonable solution toward achieving a free and liberated society. It is much easier to liberate a state with many likeminded people than it is to liberated a Massive Confederated nation full of ideologically hostile people.