Open Carry Dude Robbed of His Gun.

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Yes, we know it is not "good" that it happened. Yes we know (those who have taken the trouble to find out) some practices that are a good idea to help avoid being robbed of an open carry piece ... but, my response to this is otherwise a big so what.

It is a matter of the Law of Averages. X-thousand, X-hundred thousand or X-million open carry = percentage of gun snatches, robberies etc. It is going to happen. Just like medical malpractice, drownings, accidental poisoning, boating accidents etc.

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Je Suis Prest
 
The beginning of a phrase I hear the anti's saying a lot is "How likely..." or "What are the odds..." or "It doesn't happen often" when referring to Burglaries, Muggings and Murders.

The fact that it happened to someone at all means that it could happen to me someday.

That is why I view the video relevant. That is why I conceal carry.
 
Ditto to the above. Sure, open carry allows one to carry a larger gun more comfortably. It also generates problems not the least of which is loss of tactical advantage. I will never OC.
 
This is a textbook case of being caught in condition white.

Stuff like this is why it pays to be aware of your surroundings no matter which type of carry a person uses.
 
It could happen just as easily to you, Mr. Concealed Carry.

Interestingly enough, on that same YouTube page, ABC talks about encounters with concealed carry. While some of it is staged and all of it is slanted against carrying guns, it does point out some of the problems with concealed carry. One of those was deploying the concealed weapon. The BG's got a gun on you - how fast can you get yours out? Really?

The fact actually is that you can lose whether you open carry, concealed carry or don't carry at all.
 
I'm super paranoid if I oc, to the point I don't lie doing it. I still o though just because of the simpe fact that it is my right to do so , and I don't want to loose a right because I didn't exercise it.
 
TexasBill said:
It could happen just as easily to you, Mr. Concealed Carry.
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Give that some thought. Do I have a gun? What is it? Where is it? The answers to these questions are handed to be BG by the OCer. I might become a target because I do not look like a threat, yes. I won't, however, become a target because I have a gun, a gun that might in and of itself be the object of the BGs desire.
 
Justin nailed it in post #14. Safariland offers several excellent retention holsters. #6367, 0701, 6287,5187 to name a few. Some of these lock the gun in just by inserting into the holster . Having said that, I still prefer mine in deep concealment. The holsters I listed are sold as concealable versions of regular duty holsters. They have "pancake" type belt loops.
 
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A retention holster doesn't serve much purpose when a man with a gun demands you hand over your holstered weapon. And at about 46 seconds it says he had trouble getting his gun out of the holster to hand over, he may well have already had a retention holster.
 
Justin said:
been more aware of his surroundings.
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Pfletch83 said:
textbook case of being caught in condition white.
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Have to agree with these statements. This seems more a problem with awareness than gun carry method. Guns are not magic wands. They can't do much by themselves. If carried by someone who is clueless, the gun is not likely to be of much use.
 
Was this the same instance where the person who claimed to have been robbed for their weapon was rumored to have lied about the story?
 
TexasBill said:
It could happen just as easily to you, Mr. Concealed Carry.

Interestingly enough, on that same YouTube page, ABC talks about encounters with concealed carry. While some of it is staged and all of it is slanted against carrying guns, it does point out some of the problems with concealed carry. One of those was deploying the concealed weapon. The BG's got a gun on you - how fast can you get yours out? Really?

The fact actually is that you can lose whether you open carry, concealed carry or don't carry at all.
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How can you lose a gun if you don't have one?? :confused:
 
Tommygunn said:
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How can you lose a gun if you don't have one?? :confused:
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Situational awareness is more important than your method of carry. If you carry no gun, concealed, or open without situational awareness, then the bad guy is going to win.
 
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Shopping A Round said:
That is why I view the video relevant. That is why I conceal carry.
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Creature said:
Exactly. Well said.
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Losov said:
Ditto to the above. Sure, open carry allows one to carry a larger gun more comfortably. It also generates problems not the least of which is loss of tactical advantage. I will never OC.
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1911Tuner said:
And to some...it's seen as a challenge. I don't open carry in public
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Matt 357 said:
Hmmm... walking around with $600+ cash strapped to my belt in plain view. No thanks...
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smince said:
Perhaps another reason not to OC.
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Leave YOUR guns at home. You will get them taken away from you too....

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/71002412.html

Man loses concealed weapon in armed robbery

You point to ONE incident that happened in June, 2010 and say, SEE! THERE IT IS! DON'T OPEN CARRY, WE TOLD YOU SO!

Well, now the score is one to one. SEE! THERE IT IS! DON'T CONCEALED CARRY EITHER! LEAVE YOUR GUNS AT HOME! I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO when you get your gun taken from you....
 
Navy LT, if you're asking for a guarantee that your weapon won't be taken from your holster, from your pocket or from your house, I can't give you one. I just don't intend to make it easy for potential takers. If someone is keeping score of losses from CC vs OC, it isn't me. I won't change my conclusion on this no matter what the numbers say.
 
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