wayneconrad said:
coloradokevin, How can your management justify having you sent out to investigate non-crimes?
If I called to complain because my neighbor's grass was growing, would the dispatcher send you, each and every time, or would the dispatcher explain that that is not a crime?
A few questions can distinguish whether "man with a gun" is a crime in progress, or a citizen going along with his business.
Wayne,
I honestly can't say for sure on whether or not every one of those "grass growing" calls makes it to us... I've never worked dispatch, so I can't promise that they don't set a few people straight.
However, I can tell you this:
1) In the past week of work I was sent to approximately 15 calls of a panhandler standing on a street corner with a sign, non-aggressively panhandling. This is NOT a crime, and is common in the urban area where i work. But, a nearby resident always calls in, every single time he sees this activity, and we are dispatched every single time.
2) I was sent to a call two weeks ago that was similar to the hypothetical you laid out. When I got there I learned that the dispute involved only that a neighbor didn't like the types of flowers/herbs that her neighbor was growing in her garden, because she said they didn't look nice in the neighborhood. We had a return call to this same address a couple of hours later. I don't know if the dispatcher was given the whole story up front... But I can say that when they dispatched the call she did state that it was a neighbor dispute over landscaping.
3) At least once weekly (probably more like an average of three times weekly) I am sent to a "landlord/tenant dispute" or a "roommate dispute". Disputes over rent and leases are not our business, and fall under civil (not criminal) law. We still get sent.
Additionally, the area where I work is one of the highest crime areas in our region. If someone has a gun carried openly, it is generally for an unlawful purpose... At the very least, I think it is not inappropriate for an officer to drive by and check on the situation. Again, where would the liability fall if a shooting DID occur, and we had refused to respond?
I think things could be viewed in a much different manner for a rural department where lawfully owned guns are more common. In some areas of my state it isn't really that uncommon to see folks open carrying, but I obviously can't comment on how the agencies that patrol these areas respond to the situation.
If you read the other thread on this subject (the Walmart one that I believe sparked this thread), I mentioned that Colorado has some complicated home rule laws. In essence, a court decision has determined that various jurisdictions are able to restrict open carry as well (this is a complicated issue, and is being debated WELL above my pay grade!).