Open carrying to a job interview...
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THE DARK KNIGHT
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Exactly, I too live right outside NYC, and I'm sure you know how crummy parts of NJ can be. I went 21 years without a gun in the home at all, and been a gun owner for two years and still cannot carry. I have no fear of anywhere, I simply don't go where I don't belong and my life is just fine. I'm perfectly safe. I'd love it if I could have the option of CCW, but I don't and people like me and you can make do for years. This guy can DEFINITELY make do for a single day.
I'd love to CCW if I could, but I would not be paranoid to leave the house without my 9mm binky. I think many people who CCW or even just own guns get the wrong idea. Instead of going about their life as normal and they happen to have a gun in case they're in danger of becoming a statistic, they change their entire world view. Every person is a potential justifiable homicide. Any person they don't know has GOT to be a criminal. They cant go anywhere without two guns on them. They question if certain +P .45 hollow point will be enough to save them from certain death at the local Winn-Dixie. They become completely paranoid and scared of the world around them, and it is such a sad way to live.
I'll never forget a different forum I used to browse on. Some guys were discussing HD. THis guy didn't just keep a gun under the bed, he also had one in the closet, and the nightstand, and the kitchen, and the living room, and the garage, the attic, he even had one in the bathroom because you know, just in case the meth heads come.
I'm sorry, but when someone NEEDS a gun within arms reach to use the john in their own damn house, they've lost any connection with reality they may have previously had.
woodsoup
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Three words...
ARE YOU CRAZY?
Leave the gun at home.
ARE YOU CRAZY?
Leave the gun at home.
Emphasis mine.N003K said:
You guys just cannot see the forest for the trees.
Will the OP get the job if he open carries to the interview? 99.5% chance - NO! Everyone has answered that satisfactorily. The OP knew the answer before he even asked the question.
If the question, "Should I open carry to a job interview?" was all this thread was about all it would have taken was 1 or 2 guys answering NO, It's just not practical in this day and age; for the thread to be done with.
I know that. You know that! Hell! Everyone knows that. You win. Happy?
What bothers me though is that no one seems to care that it is currently impractical and assumes that it is a perfectly natural state of affairs. What's even more worrying is the attitude of some that not only is it impractical to carry to an interview but that it is wrong even if legal. Some go so far as to say they'd call the cops or security because they'd feel threatened. Those are the same guys that claim to be all for RKBA for self defense and the defense of others. HYPOCRITES!
And that is the real problem. Not that some guy wants to OC to a job interview (I don't believe it).
The situation isn't ever going to get better. Ohhh... Our masters may toss us a crumb every now and then and like starving dogs we'll happily and gratefully lick it up off the filth strewn floor, slobbering and licking our masters hands in gratitude. That's what they've done by granting us the PRIVILEDGE of concealed carry. We gained nothing except a grant to do what we should have been able to do anyway and without their permission. Only now our masters know who we are and where to go when they're finally done playing their games and get down to business for real which is winning the culture war.
Don't kid yourselves. The fight for RKBA is a culture war. We think we're winning it but the antis and our masters know better. They're winning the culture war as each and every follow on generation gets more and more pacified.
The antis and our masters have nothing to worry about as long as they know we're all about playing nice and not ruffling feathers. They're even more sure they're gonna win because they know that as long as they keep us in bread and circuses that it just won't be practical to ever make a real stand, come out of the closet and peacefully stand up for our natural rights. Too much to lose after all. Got our families to think of. Got to earn a living so we can keep on buying big TV's, SUV's, put our kids thru college. The alternative? Too horrific to think of. So - we'll lose. Hell - we've already lost. The body's just not cold yet.
I'm just glad I won't be around for the final defeat though I grieve for my grandchildren who will.
Justin
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So, where do you work? Do they let you open carry?
See, what you're failing to realize is that a majority of us live in the real world. And in the real world, no matter how pro-gun we may be, we also realize that there are times when discretion is called for. If you are unable to recognize that open-carrying into a job interview is likely to result in not being hired, I'm not sure what else to tell you.
Or perhaps you're far more interested in making a statement than in steady employment.
Justin
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Oh. Now I realize what we've got here. Someone giving the ol' Libertarian Macho Flash. This discussion has devolved from having anything to do with the real world, to one where our fealty to the Second Amendment is thrown in doubt if we don't all [uselessly] moan and wail about how any citizen should be able to open carry anywhere.
KarenTOC
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You know who I will never hire? Anyone calling me "Karen" during the interview process.
You can say the first ammendment right guarantees you the right to call me Karen.
You can say that it's not illegal to call me Karen.
You can say that since my name is Karen, it's ridiculous to object to being called Karen.
Adults who don't mind being called by their first name are generally not offended by being addressed as Mr or Ms Somebody. They'll just say "please, call me Karen." OTOH, adults who DO mind being called by their first name are mortally offended when so addressed. Any job seeker who would risk mortally offending the interviewer is someone whose judgement is too impaired to be working for me.
I am not alone in feeling that way. If interviewers get that exercised by being addressed by their first name, imagine their reaction to seeing a gun on the job seeker's hip!
But go ahead, stomp your foot and whine "it's my gun and I'll wear it if I want to." Be sure to let us know how the interview went.
You can say the first ammendment right guarantees you the right to call me Karen.
You can say that it's not illegal to call me Karen.
You can say that since my name is Karen, it's ridiculous to object to being called Karen.
Adults who don't mind being called by their first name are generally not offended by being addressed as Mr or Ms Somebody. They'll just say "please, call me Karen." OTOH, adults who DO mind being called by their first name are mortally offended when so addressed. Any job seeker who would risk mortally offending the interviewer is someone whose judgement is too impaired to be working for me.
I am not alone in feeling that way. If interviewers get that exercised by being addressed by their first name, imagine their reaction to seeing a gun on the job seeker's hip!
But go ahead, stomp your foot and whine "it's my gun and I'll wear it if I want to." Be sure to let us know how the interview went.
waterhouse
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I fully support open carry. I'd do it if the Texas allowed me to.
I am not concerned that OC to an interview is not currently practical, and that not OCing to and interview is a perfectly natural state of affairs. Why?
Because, as others have mentioned, I don't think this is a gun rights issue.
The OP asked about an extremely specific situation, that of a job interview. As mentioned, carrying a bible or wearing a wooden baton or cleaning your fingernails with your Kabar may all be legal (check your state laws
), but they are not normal things for a job interview. There is a perfectly natural state of affairs for most job interviews, and pretty much anything you do or carry outside of that is considered abnormal.
I've sat in on a job interview where the applicant had his cell phone go off. This was talked about (and not in a good way) after the applicant left. Having your cell phone turned on, in that setting, was deemed inappropriate by the people doing the interview. The interviewers owned and used cell phones on a regular basis. They aren't hypocrites for expecting that all phones would be off during the interview.
If someone interviewed with my open carrying, they arn't getting hired! Why? Because I already know you are a socially awkward wierdo at best, and trying to send me a message at worst.
After you get hired, and I get to know you, then ask if you can open carry. There are a lot of things in life that if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't do it.
Other things not to bring to an interview:
A six pack of beer,
Your kid,
Speedoes,
Porn
After you get hired, and I get to know you, then ask if you can open carry. There are a lot of things in life that if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't do it.
Other things not to bring to an interview:
A six pack of beer,
Your kid,
Speedoes,
Porn
General Geoff
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Just as an aside, here.
Normally, being a job applicant means you are the one who must "measure up" for a job interview. But I should point out that I have friends who have gone to job interviews with the opposite attitude; "Is this job good enough for me?" Now, in order to have such a genuine attitude, you must not be wanting for money, and/or your skills are beyond reproach. This would usually mean the company needs you more than you need the company. Most people don't fall into this category when going to a job interview, but I have to say, if the OP does, open carrying to the interview may actually be beneficial to test the attitude of the employer.
Normally, being a job applicant means you are the one who must "measure up" for a job interview. But I should point out that I have friends who have gone to job interviews with the opposite attitude; "Is this job good enough for me?" Now, in order to have such a genuine attitude, you must not be wanting for money, and/or your skills are beyond reproach. This would usually mean the company needs you more than you need the company. Most people don't fall into this category when going to a job interview, but I have to say, if the OP does, open carrying to the interview may actually be beneficial to test the attitude of the employer.
9MMare
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If he's trying to make inroads into open carry acceptibility, then **IMO** a frontal attack as he mentioned is the wrong way to go. If he would like to influence his workplace and his community to be pro-OC, then **IMO** it's alot easier to do so as a member of that workplace/community.
Get the job, move. Carry concealed, get to know people, and TALK to them. Let them see you as a regular, law-abiding citizen. Discuss your views with them. Dont slap them in the face and issue them a challenge to accept you.
9MMare
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LMAO
ezypikns
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Guess what?
Changed my mind
You MUST wear your firearm everywhere. Especially to this job interview!
Universal Open Carry must never be challenged.
Changed my mind
You MUST wear your firearm everywhere. Especially to this job interview!
Universal Open Carry must never be challenged.
you know what.. you should open carry to your interview... without a doubt... you wont get the job and may not even get as far as the interview but go for it... then you can sleep great that evening knowing your principles have not been polluted by the MAN...then again, you will wake up unemployed and have to sell the gun you were so adamant about carrying to avoid that whole homeless situation.
Are you serious? Right and legal are two very different things. Legal and appropriat are two very different things. All of the following are legal but inapropriate for a job interview.
Wearing jeans
wearing a shirt with a big pot leaf on it.
Wearing shirts (or anything else) that is making a statement.
Wearing your favorite bull ring in your nose.
Being unclean or looking sloppy.
You can legally do any of the above but it will hurt you in most job interviews.
If you cannot understand why it is perhaps inappropriate to open carry in a situation like a job interview I'm not sure what to tell you.
+1 It is not a gun rights issue any more than not dressing nicely is a first ammendment freespeech issue.
wyohome
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Oldskool has 5,000 posts because he doesn't have a job and has nothing better to do.
Kidding, or am I?
Kidding, or am I?
I just have one question to ask Dark Knight....... Who the heck do you think you are going through my house?!!!!
How the heck do you know where I keep my guns!!!?
Guess I'm gonna have to find a new place in the bathroom for my "throne protector"....
Well, like I said earlier, carry the gun & see what happens. Since you're all about your rights, God Bless America. Go learn first hand how the only entity that has to respect your rights is the government. A private employer doesn't have to respect your rights - you have no rights. I sort of wish I had the time to spare so I could drive down there with 'ya and watch you get bounced out on your head when you walk in with your gat.
I get a bit of a kick out of you saying "this is my only legal option right now" as you live in Illinois and you don't have the right to carry back home either. How do you protect yourself at home?
A high post count really doesn't mean too much, btw. Go read some of his other posts and you'll get a good sense of who you're talking to here. Isn't this the same guy that wanted to OC a shotgun on a motorcycle a few weeks ago?
What's amazing around here is that a ton of posts get locked because a mod thinks the post is diverting from "the high road", yet this serious piece of work gets to stay. Wow.
chevyforlife21
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allot of companies freak out about just a pocket knife
SharpsDressedMan
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Is this maybe a put-on? Are you just messin' with us? Pretty funny........
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